*the original zone has meant that 3.2 million residents have benefited from cleaner air *higher-quality vehicle fleets (as buses and taxis are electrified) *the number of schools facing unsafe pollution levels has dropped from 455 in 2016 to 14 in 2019 *49% fewer polluting vehicles driven in every day - 44,100 vehicles *CO2 emissions down 6% NO2 down 44% *huge reductions in hospital admissions and therefore savings to NHS *revenue has been put into new and retrofitted buses to make them compliant -London has Europe’s largest electric bus fleet.
The poorest have always been the most affected by these toxic fumes and it is their lives which will be improved by these measures, especially the young, old and vulnerable,
With regard to diesel vehicles, they have been have been well reported on for over 6 years now. The cost of diesel, previously cheaper than petrol, is now more expensive. The benefits have been known for some time and whilst electric cars are still prohibitively expensive for some, there are plenty of options available for relatively low prices (I have a 19 year old Focus which is compliant and still runs brilliantly with little fuss in terms of servicing each year). Who knows, you may even be able to make a claim against the diesel car manufacturer if you have one as well as use the scrappage scheme to replace the car.
As others have mentioned, any change is always met with resistance just because. But the benefits to doing this really should be a no brainer to nearly all of us.
Loads of people in various WhatsApp groups haven’t a clue if their car is compliant or not.
To say people are living in a hole and they must know it’s happening I think is a bit condescending. People have busy lives, working, raising children, worrying about Covid - maybe even trying to relax. Not listening out for what the latest tax is. I’m not sure if it’s been advertised blatantly over the past few years also?
Plus, whilst I checked mine a while ago, does anyone know when the checker website went live (I have no idea… 6 months? 4 years?).
I have no issue with the concept but they should have been shoving the details down peoples throat years ago…. to me, who generally tries to keep abreast of things….. the compliance details (not the zone itself) passed me by.
I have a full time job, a child and live on the other side of the planet, I’d still heard about it. If someone didn’t know what’s going on, they only have themselves to blame.
I noticed Khan, about two three months ago,stated that he was looking to bring the main congestion charge back to its pre-covid hours of implementation.
Khant quite bring himself to do it yet still though? I wonder why?
It's no longer within his powers.
Government support for TfL funding specified retaining the current hours and days.
*the original zone has meant that 3.2 million residents have benefited from cleaner air *higher-quality vehicle fleets (as buses and taxis are electrified) *the number of schools facing unsafe pollution levels has dropped from 455 in 2016 to 14 in 2019 *49% fewer polluting vehicles driven in every day - 44,100 vehicles *CO2 emissions down 6% NO2 down 44% *huge reductions in hospital admissions and therefore savings to NHS *revenue has been put into new and retrofitted buses to make them compliant -London has Europe’s largest electric bus fleet.
The poorest have always been the most affected by these toxic fumes and it is their lives which will be improved by these measures, especially the young, old and vulnerable,
With regard to diesel vehicles, they have been have been well reported on for over 6 years now. The cost of diesel, previously cheaper than petrol, is now more expensive. The benefits have been known for some time and whilst electric cars are still prohibitively expensive for some, there are plenty of options available for relatively low prices (I have a 19 year old Focus which is compliant and still runs brilliantly with little fuss in terms of servicing each year). Who knows, you may even be able to make a claim against the diesel car manufacturer if you have one as well as use the scrappage scheme to replace the car.
As others have mentioned, any change is always met with resistance just because. But the benefits to doing this really should be a no brainer to nearly all of us.
*the original zone has meant that 3.2 million residents have benefited from cleaner air *higher-quality vehicle fleets (as buses and taxis are electrified) *the number of schools facing unsafe pollution levels has dropped from 455 in 2016 to 14 in 2019 *49% fewer polluting vehicles driven in every day - 44,100 vehicles *CO2 emissions down 6% NO2 down 44% *huge reductions in hospital admissions and therefore savings to NHS *revenue has been put into new and retrofitted buses to make them compliant -London has Europe’s largest electric bus fleet.
The poorest have always been the most affected by these toxic fumes and it is their lives which will be improved by these measures, especially the young, old and vulnerable,
With regard to diesel vehicles, they have been have been well reported on for over 6 years now. The cost of diesel, previously cheaper than petrol, is now more expensive. The benefits have been known for some time and whilst electric cars are still prohibitively expensive for some, there are plenty of options available for relatively low prices (I have a 19 year old Focus which is compliant and still runs brilliantly with little fuss in terms of servicing each year). Who knows, you may even be able to make a claim against the diesel car manufacturer if you have one as well as use the scrappage scheme to replace the car.
As others have mentioned, any change is always met with resistance just because. But the benefits to doing this really should be a no brainer to nearly all of us.
*the original zone has meant that 3.2 million residents have benefited from cleaner air *higher-quality vehicle fleets (as buses and taxis are electrified) *the number of schools facing unsafe pollution levels has dropped from 455 in 2016 to 14 in 2019 *49% fewer polluting vehicles driven in every day - 44,100 vehicles *CO2 emissions down 6% NO2 down 44% *huge reductions in hospital admissions and therefore savings to NHS *revenue has been put into new and retrofitted buses to make them compliant -London has Europe’s largest electric bus fleet.
The poorest have always been the most affected by these toxic fumes and it is their lives which will be improved by these measures, especially the young, old and vulnerable,
With regard to diesel vehicles, they have been have been well reported on for over 6 years now. The cost of diesel, previously cheaper than petrol, is now more expensive. The benefits have been known for some time and whilst electric cars are still prohibitively expensive for some, there are plenty of options available for relatively low prices (I have a 19 year old Focus which is compliant and still runs brilliantly with little fuss in terms of servicing each year). Who knows, you may even be able to make a claim against the diesel car manufacturer if you have one as well as use the scrappage scheme to replace the car.
As others have mentioned, any change is always met with resistance just because. But the benefits to doing this really should be a no brainer to nearly all of us.
So have I
Huh! Mine is only 18 years old.
Mines only 17, and if it wasn't for a bike sliding into it, it would still look good, still runs well
Just spoken to a bloke from Manchester on the train. He drove through London to get to West Wickham He asked me about getting the bill through for the charges. I said the only bill you're be getting is a fine. Can you pay both ulez and congestion charge at the same time?
My 2004 Focus wasn't exempt, I got rid earlier this year because of it, a shame as it still ran fine. I'd known it was coming, and it was even put back because of Covid.
I have just setup Autopay for ULEZ, including "instant" text reciepts, and drove into and out of SE7 via the A2 last night, but nothing is showing on my account. Vehicle details all correct and says "valid from 2/11/21". How long does it usually take to register? Maybe it's not really working yet?
My 2004 Focus wasn't exempt, I got rid earlier this year because of it, a shame as it still ran fine. I'd known it was coming, and it was even put back because of Covid.
Ford Focus from that time and before tend to be OK from 2001, my 2004 focus is exempt so just wondering...
I’m not sure how accurate they ever are. Our company fleet has been registered for dartford crossing for years and I’d guess around 30% of trips are never charged. just last week I used the crossing going north and south but was only charged once. all on autopay etc.
My 2004 Focus wasn't exempt, I got rid earlier this year because of it, a shame as it still ran fine. I'd known it was coming, and it was even put back because of Covid.
My son, a student, drove to Charlton for Doncaster, Rotherham and Plymouth games. He has a pre-2015 Fiat Panda 1.3 Multijet diesel. The road tax is £30 or £35, I can't recall exactly, but it is low because it is low emission. He had just found out it is liable for the ULEZ charge and has paid for Saturday (just in time) but it is too late to pay for Doncaster 30th October and Rotherham 2nd November. But he hasn't received any fines yet. He seriously didn't know about this as only droves to London for Charlton. Ridiculous.
My son, a student, drove to Charlton for Doncaster, Rotherham and Plymouth games. He has a pre-2015 Fiat Panda 1.3 Multijet diesel. The road tax is £30 or £35, I can't recall exactly, but it is low because it is low emission. He had just found out it is liable for the ULEZ charge and has paid for Saturday (just in time) but it is too late to pay for Doncaster 30th October and Rotherham 2nd November. But he hasn't received any fines yet. He seriously didn't know about this as only droves to London for Charlton. Ridiculous.
I'm surprised you didn't warn him in the last 3 years.
It came in on 25 October. I have a new car and live outside London. I only go to London for Charlton and he has been at Uni. Never mind, we know now but I bet his car has better emissions than some of the exempt ones.
My son, a student, drove to Charlton for Doncaster, Rotherham and Plymouth games. He has a pre-2015 Fiat Panda 1.3 Multijet diesel. The road tax is £30 or £35, I can't recall exactly, but it is low because it is low emission. He had just found out it is liable for the ULEZ charge and has paid for Saturday (just in time) but it is too late to pay for Doncaster 30th October and Rotherham 2nd November. But he hasn't received any fines yet. He seriously didn't know about this as only droves to London for Charlton. Ridiculous.
If the fine is classed as a pcn I'm pretty sure it has to be on your door mat within 28 days. If not then he won't have to pay it so he may well get away with it.
Actually there was an unopened letter waiting for him which had ULEZ on the back. I opened it and it related to the Rotherham game trip but said it was a warning on this occasion. I presume they didn't pick him up on the Doncaster game as that was just a few days after the new zone opened.
I checked, and there are cars with higher road tax that are exempt from ULEZ. He knows now so not a problem.
My 2004 Focus wasn't exempt, I got rid earlier this year because of it, a shame as it still ran fine. I'd known it was coming, and it was even put back because of Covid.
What engine did it have?
My 2002 one which passes is a standard 1.6 petrol
It was the 1.3 engine. I checked the reg from when this was first talked about so I knew it was coming
But my point is car tax is based on emissions. Why does he pay only £30 a year for that? It doesn't seem consistent.
Car tax is based on CO2 emissions, i.e. greenhouse gases causing global warming
The ULEZ is about air quality, i.e. the about of particulates and NOx emitted by the car, which can cause health issues to anyone breathing in too much of them
It is end of story and no harm done as my son hasn't been fined. But not everybody lives in London and my son has been at Uni in Bournemouth. I knew my car was ok and given the emissions I assumed my son's car would be fine. But if it is for something ese, fair enough but there was no intention to avoid and it does look given that my son received a warning letter that common sense has been applied.
Just spoken to a bloke from Manchester on the train. He drove through London to get to West Wickham He asked me about getting the bill through for the charges. I said the only bill you're be getting is a fine. Can you pay both ulez and congestion charge at the same time?
Another truly dreadful poem. There is one half rhyme at the end but really this is poor stuff.
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Government support for TfL funding specified retaining the current hours and days.
He drove through London to get to West Wickham
He asked me about getting the bill through for the charges.
I said the only bill you're be getting is a fine.
Can you pay both ulez and congestion charge at the same time?
Our company fleet has been registered for dartford crossing for years and I’d guess around 30% of trips are never charged.
just last week I used the crossing going north and south but was only charged once.
all on autopay etc.
My 2002 one which passes is a standard 1.6 petrol
I checked, and there are cars with higher road tax that are exempt from ULEZ. He knows now so not a problem.
Looking at a website it seems the engine is Euro 4 well below the Euro 6 standard to meet ULEZ requirements.
The ULEZ is about air quality, i.e. the about of particulates and NOx emitted by the car, which can cause health issues to anyone breathing in too much of them
There were plenty of warnings that diesel engines pre 2016 wouldn't be exempt.
The scheme has had loads of publicity including on this stream. Thousands of signs has been installed to warn drivers.