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The Ashes 2021/22

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    123-9

    Wood 11 (7) b Cummins
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    At tea when I was reading about taking the extra half hour I didnt think it would be the Aussies having to make that decision. 

    And as I type Wood goes & the extra half hour wont even be needed. 
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,766
    If it wasn't so tragic it would be funny. It's just like watching Charlton.
    Inept in every aspect 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    124 all out

    Robinson 0 (1) b Cummins

    Australia win by 146 runs and 4-0.
  • A ridiculous, sorry pathetic collapse

    I didn't think we'd make the chase, but expected us to at least be in with a shot at stumps tonight

    Boland yesterday did a great job at nightwatchman, Robinson by contrast backed away so far, he nearly trod on the square leg umpire's toes
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    68-0

    then

    56-10
  • What a collapse that is! I’m almost impressed 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    68-0
    56-10
    124 all out

    Don't think it's unfair to say this has been absolutely pathetic!
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    We get them 12/3 and then can't capitalise & let them get shed loads.

    On the other hand we get to 68/0 and then collapse to be all out for only 60 more.

    Absolutely abysmal.
  • The opening partnership achieved over half our runs FFS
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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    A few years ago we were getting 400 in an innings.

    Last year we could only get to 300 twice 

    This series we can't even get to 200.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    edited January 2022
    We get them 12/3 and then can't capitalise & let them get shed loads.

    On the other hand we get to 68/0 and then collapse to be all out for only 60 more.

    Absolutely abysmal.
    Combine the two and you have a team all out (and some) for less than 70.

    Can only imagine how much extra embarrassment there would be if the opening stand only lasted a couple of overs. We’re lucky they put some runs on the board or we’d have ended the tour with a 60.

    Lost nine wickets in just over half a session. Incredibly really.
  • Gary Poole
    Gary Poole Posts: 1,874
    Easily the worst England side I have seen since at least the 90’s. The very sad thing is there is little hope for any improvement in the near or even longer future with the contempt shown by the ECB to the longer form of the game. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    And we only avoided a 5-0 whitewash due to rain. If there had been 5 full days of 90 overs on each day then we would have lost. The last pair in the 4th Test wouldn't have lasted another 30 mins.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    edited January 2022
    Easily the worst England side I have seen since at least the 90’s. The very sad thing is there is little hope for any improvement in the near or even longer future with the contempt shown by the ECB to the longer form of the game. 
    Don’t worry, we will improve. By sending our players to go play in other country’s longer format competitions. That’s what Harrison says.
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,766
    They looked like they were in a rush to get home. No chance of them ever playing for pride.
  • WTF ?
    Went out at 9-20ish, 80-1.
    Got home, all out.

    I know England are prone to a collapse, but, really, WTF ?
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    Easily the worst England side I have seen since at least the 90’s. The very sad thing is there is little hope for any improvement in the near or even longer future with the contempt shown by the ECB to the longer form of the game. 
    Don’t worry, we will improve. By sending our players to go play in other country’s longer format competitions. That’s what Harrison says.
    This.

    I think if you are on a central contract then you are contracted to play for England (and your county) and no-one else.

    Play IPL then fine, but don't expect to play for England. 

    Something has to change. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    The cold facts for us in the Ashes:

    Batting (Runs/Average)

    Root          322 @ 32.20
    Malan        244 @ 24.40
    Stokes       236 @ 23.60
    Bairstow    194 @ 48.50
    Crawley     166 @ 27.66
    Woakes      146 @ 24.33
    Buttler       107 @ 15.28 
    Hameed      80 @  10.00
    Burns          77 @  12.83
    Wood          86 @ 10.85
    Pope           67 @  11.16
    Leach          51 @  12.75
    Broad          42 @ 14.00
    Robinson     38 @   5.42
    Billings        30 @ 15.00
    Anderson    13 @   6.50

    Bowling (Wickets/Average)

    Wood          17 @ 26.64
    Broad          13 @ 26.30
    Robinson     11 @ 25.54
    Anderson       8 @ 23.37
    Leach             6 @ 53.50
    Woakes          6 @ 55.33
    Root               5 @ 46.80
    Stokes            4 @ 71.50
    Malan             2 @ 30.50


  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Mark my words this will only change IF there is a change of culture from the ECB to the England side and through to the Counties. I have been absolutely staggered by what I've seen going on in age group County cricket, as I first mentioned at least two years ago, but this has been driven by the ECB and money. If you just train on hitting the ball, opening up angles, playing 360 etc etc, you will get what you deserve - some very good hitters of a white ball that stops moving after two or three overs for batsmen who know that they won't get caught at slip or gully even if they edge the ball and also players who can't play straight and wouldn't know what a "leave" looked like if it smacked them in the face!
      
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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Oh the irony of what Cummins has just said "we had some real hard decisions as to who to leave out". So did we!
  • Pathetic bottlers and a completely useless bunch of losers.Yet another pathetic collapse from this bunch of tossers.This test team needs needs a complete clearout.
  • They looked like they were in a rush to get home. No chance of them ever playing for pride.

    You can sympathise with the players wanting to get away as soon as possible because this tour has been a shambles from start to finish  but some of those latter wickets today were an absolute disgrace. It was almost like they were deliberately getting dismissed to wrap the game up tonight and get home early which is an absolutely appalling attitude.
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,766
    The cold facts for us in the Ashes:

    Batting (Runs/Average)

    Root          322 @ 32.20
    Malan        244 @ 24.40
    Stokes       236 @ 23.60
    Bairstow    194 @ 48.50
    Crawley     166 @ 27.66
    Woakes      146 @ 24.33
    Buttler       107 @ 15.28 
    Hameed      80 @  10.00
    Burns          77 @  12.83
    Wood          86 @ 10.85
    Pope           67 @  11.16
    Leach          51 @  12.75
    Broad          42 @ 14.00
    Robinson     38 @   5.42
    Billings        30 @ 15.00
    Anderson    13 @   6.50

    Bowling (Wickets/Average)

    Wood          17 @ 26.64
    Broad          13 @ 26.30
    Robinson     11 @ 25.54
    Anderson       8 @ 23.37
    Leach             6 @ 53.50
    Woakes          6 @ 55.33
    Root               5 @ 46.80
    Stokes            4 @ 71.50
    Malan             2 @ 30.50


    If those batting records are complete then that is a total of 1,899 runs at an average of 189.9 per innings. Shocking. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Seriously - how and why did Sky let Gower go?
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    The cold facts for us in the Ashes:

    Batting (Runs/Average)

    Root          322 @ 32.20
    Malan        244 @ 24.40
    Stokes       236 @ 23.60
    Bairstow    194 @ 48.50
    Crawley     166 @ 27.66
    Woakes      146 @ 24.33
    Buttler       107 @ 15.28 
    Hameed      80 @  10.00
    Burns          77 @  12.83
    Wood          86 @ 10.85
    Pope           67 @  11.16
    Leach          51 @  12.75
    Broad          42 @ 14.00
    Robinson     38 @   5.42
    Billings        30 @ 15.00
    Anderson    13 @   6.50

    Bowling (Wickets/Average)

    Wood          17 @ 26.64
    Broad          13 @ 26.30
    Robinson     11 @ 25.54
    Anderson       8 @ 23.37
    Leach             6 @ 53.50
    Woakes          6 @ 55.33
    Root               5 @ 46.80
    Stokes            4 @ 71.50
    Malan             2 @ 30.50


    If those batting records are complete then that is a total of 1,899 runs at an average of 189.9 per innings. Shocking. 
    They are up to date. Our actual total in 10 innings is 2001-99 wickets so our average total, including extras, would be 202 all out
  • Seriously - how and why did Sky let Gower go?
    Completely agree. Absolutely incredible decision one I still don't understand to this day.
  • I wonder what dear old Bob Willis would have to say.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    Listening to BT Sport & Mark Butcher talks a load of sense.

    Planning for the Ashes over the summer & then start the first Test with bowlers who've not been picked together before.

    Only 7 partnerships over 50 during the entire Series. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Look, this Australian bowling line up are superb; makes me proud to be from a family of Convicts from Bermondsey.

    Look, we now need to follow Golf and the next time we tour Australia it's the best players from Europe; it works in the Ryder Cup.

    Look, The French spinner Jambe Avant Guichet deserves a chance and the Dutch Opener Van Stenen Muur must be given a Chance
    Australia v Europe is the way forward.

    G'day Mate.