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Give Jacko The Job (He got given it on page 31...)
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Maccn05 said:Bedsaddick said:Maccn05 said:Thomas out down the pub smoozing fans, is clearly a PR stunt to win back goodwill after a shocking week for him, quite clever really, although very cynical.
Sandgaard has low-balled the offer the JJ and they are at a standoff. We will have to see who blinks first.
Facts are Thomas has had a terrible week or PR and his manger hasn’t signed to low-ball contract that he’s offered (also on short terms)
Suddenly the owner is down the pub taking selfie’s left, right and centre and telling everyone he’s offered terms (much lower than JJ’s ask) and that his agent (JJ’s dad) won’t sign it.
If you can’t see the games being played here then sorry but I can’t help you
Thomas is trying to force JJ into signing a much lower and shorter contract but also preparing a cover story in case he walks as he knows the fan base will erupt!
TS has been down the pub with fans since before he joined, so don't think you can level accusations of manipulation on him there. It's hardly 'suddenly'.
You seem to have a real agenda against him and I can't work out what your desired outcome is. You want him to be a wrong un? Or you want everyone to take off their optimistic glasses and be a cynical grouch? What do you want to happen, ownership-wise?27 -
Maccn05 said:Bedsaddick said:Maccn05 said:Thomas out down the pub smoozing fans, is clearly a PR stunt to win back goodwill after a shocking week for him, quite clever really, although very cynical.
Sandgaard has low-balled the offer the JJ and they are at a standoff. We will have to see who blinks first.
Facts are Thomas has had a terrible week or PR and his manger hasn’t signed to low-ball contract that he’s offered (also on short terms)
Suddenly the owner is down the pub taking selfie’s left, right and centre and telling everyone he’s offered terms (much lower than JJ’s ask) and that his agent (JJ’s dad) won’t sign it.
If you can’t see the games being played here then sorry but I can’t help you
Thomas is trying to force JJ into signing a much lower and shorter contract but also preparing a cover story in case he walks as he knows the fan base will erupt!10 -
Maccn05 said:Bedsaddick said:Maccn05 said:Thomas out down the pub smoozing fans, is clearly a PR stunt to win back goodwill after a shocking week for him, quite clever really, although very cynical.
Sandgaard has low-balled the offer the JJ and they are at a standoff. We will have to see who blinks first.
Facts are Thomas has had a terrible week or PR and his manger hasn’t signed to low-ball contract that he’s offered (also on short terms)
Suddenly the owner is down the pub taking selfie’s left, right and centre and telling everyone he’s offered terms (much lower than JJ’s ask) and that his agent (JJ’s dad) won’t sign it.
If you can’t see the games being played here then sorry but I can’t help you
Thomas is trying to force JJ into signing a much lower and shorter contract but also preparing a cover story in case he walks as he knows the fan base will erupt!2 -
soapboxsam said:Can anyone on CL confirm who JJ agent is?
Is it Johnnie's Dad ?
Harry Kane has his Brother as his agent, so not totally unusual if true.0 -
Thomas just doesn’t want to appoint somebody who is better at playing the guitar than him.7
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AndyG said:There seems to be alot of people on here that have access to the inside workings of contract negotiations their own fevered imaginations! fair play3
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ricky_otto said:Thomas just doesn’t want to appoint somebody who is better at playing the guitar than him.4
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Never posted inside info before but here goes, the two robins who visit my garden most mornings seemed much perkier than normal today and I swear I saw them doing a little dance on top of the sundialMake of that what you will and for heaven's sake don't tell anyone else.7
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I'm starting to think that this is all some kind of masterplan by TS and Ged Roddy to put the final nails in the coffin of CAFC after all enough crooks have tried and failed. They are taking the nicey nicey approach to lull us into a false sense of security the little tikes !!!5
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I am reliably informed that the hold-up is due to a dispute over who is the better guitarist.
Apparently, TS and JJ are meeting up at Makro today (2pm) for a "guitar-off" before TS flies back to the US of A.
Only family and close friends are allowed to spectate but there is a stream available for £10.4 - Sponsored links:
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Macronate said:I am reliably informed that the hold-up is due to a dispute over who is the better guitarist.
Apparently, TS and JJ are meeting up at Makro today (2pm) for a "guitar-off" before TS flies back to the US of A.
Only family and close friends are allowed to spectate but there is a stream available for £10.https://youtu.be/5gNuj8UkyC4
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mistrollingin62 said:Never posted inside info before but here goes, the two robins who visit my garden most mornings seemed much perkier than normal today and I swear I saw them doing a little dance on top of the sundialMake of that what you will and for heaven's sake don't tell anyone else.
The men in white coats will be round later mate..2 -
Covered_End_Lad said:Maccn05 said:Bedsaddick said:Maccn05 said:Thomas out down the pub smoozing fans, is clearly a PR stunt to win back goodwill after a shocking week for him, quite clever really, although very cynical.
Sandgaard has low-balled the offer the JJ and they are at a standoff. We will have to see who blinks first.
Facts are Thomas has had a terrible week or PR and his manger hasn’t signed to low-ball contract that he’s offered (also on short terms)
Suddenly the owner is down the pub taking selfie’s left, right and centre and telling everyone he’s offered terms (much lower than JJ’s ask) and that his agent (JJ’s dad) won’t sign it.
If you can’t see the games being played here then sorry but I can’t help you
Thomas is trying to force JJ into signing a much lower and shorter contract but also preparing a cover story in case he walks as he knows the fan base will erupt!2 -
Terms and conditions are one part of a 3 part scenario normally when a fee / deal is being agreed for 'services' which is what this is - Managerial services. The other 2 things ae scope of works and price. Just because the T's and C's are allegedly all agreed, it doesn't mean the scope of his role and his remuneration is. Sure it will be sorted in the next few days but don't blame jacko for standing his ground if that is what is happening. He is in a very strong negotiation position although TS also knows that the last thing he wants to do is to leave the club so yes,a bit of brinkmanship being played out maybe that will hopefully come to a head today / tomorrow.0
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This week I’m thinking.1
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What I like about Jacko is that he's strong, steely and confident. He is no caretaker manager and he knows it. He's been waiting this long while his mates who he attended courses with got into Managerial roles about a year or two ago.
It's clear TS and Jacko both want the best for the Club, so this isn't really something the fans should feel they need to get involved in.5 -
Jonniesta said:Maccn05 said:Bedsaddick said:Maccn05 said:Thomas out down the pub smoozing fans, is clearly a PR stunt to win back goodwill after a shocking week for him, quite clever really, although very cynical.
Sandgaard has low-balled the offer the JJ and they are at a standoff. We will have to see who blinks first.
Facts are Thomas has had a terrible week or PR and his manger hasn’t signed to low-ball contract that he’s offered (also on short terms)
Suddenly the owner is down the pub taking selfie’s left, right and centre and telling everyone he’s offered terms (much lower than JJ’s ask) and that his agent (JJ’s dad) won’t sign it.
If you can’t see the games being played here then sorry but I can’t help you
Thomas is trying to force JJ into signing a much lower and shorter contract but also preparing a cover story in case he walks as he knows the fan base will erupt!
TS has been down the pub with fans since before he joined, so don't think you can level accusations of manipulation on him there. It's hardly 'suddenly'.
You seem to have a real agenda against him and I can't work out what your desired outcome is. You want him to be a wrong un? Or you want everyone to take off their optimistic glasses and be a cynical grouch? What do you want to happen, ownership-wise?
Like everyone I’m grateful for what Thomas did to rescue the club from ESI and admin and the improving atmosphere around the club.
Do I like Sandgaard? no not particularly. I don’t like his show off personality, I don’t like how he makes everything about him, how media hungry he is and I’ve not agreed with a good few of his decisions.
I’ve also been told a few things about how he works I’ve not liked what I’ve been told.
On top of that I don’t think he has the funds to do what he promised - I think he’ll be gone within 3-5 years - just my opinion, not fact.
If I could have had a choice I’d have picked Barclay & Varney over Sandgaard without hesitation.…. and yes I genuinely believe the trip to the pub was all about winning back some goodwill, but that’s not fact just my opinions.
With all these facts I feel like Rafa Benitez.8 -
Cool - everybody's entitled to their own opinion or Rafa Facts!1
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Bedsaddick said:Maccn05 said:Bedsaddick said:Maccn05 said:Thomas out down the pub smoozing fans, is clearly a PR stunt to win back goodwill after a shocking week for him, quite clever really, although very cynical.
Sandgaard has low-balled the offer the JJ and they are at a standoff. We will have to see who blinks first.
Facts are Thomas has had a terrible week or PR and his manger hasn’t signed to low-ball contract that he’s offered (also on short terms)
Suddenly the owner is down the pub taking selfie’s left, right and centre and telling everyone he’s offered terms (much lower than JJ’s ask) and that his agent (JJ’s dad) won’t sign it.
If you can’t see the games being played here then sorry but I can’t help you
Thomas is trying to force JJ into signing a much lower and shorter contract but also preparing a cover story in case he walks as he knows the fan base will erupt!
Coming from the guy getting excited that TS liked his tweet 🤦🏻♂️1 - Sponsored links:
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Maccn05 said:Jonniesta said:Maccn05 said:Bedsaddick said:Maccn05 said:Thomas out down the pub smoozing fans, is clearly a PR stunt to win back goodwill after a shocking week for him, quite clever really, although very cynical.
Sandgaard has low-balled the offer the JJ and they are at a standoff. We will have to see who blinks first.
Facts are Thomas has had a terrible week or PR and his manger hasn’t signed to low-ball contract that he’s offered (also on short terms)
Suddenly the owner is down the pub taking selfie’s left, right and centre and telling everyone he’s offered terms (much lower than JJ’s ask) and that his agent (JJ’s dad) won’t sign it.
If you can’t see the games being played here then sorry but I can’t help you
Thomas is trying to force JJ into signing a much lower and shorter contract but also preparing a cover story in case he walks as he knows the fan base will erupt!
TS has been down the pub with fans since before he joined, so don't think you can level accusations of manipulation on him there. It's hardly 'suddenly'.
You seem to have a real agenda against him and I can't work out what your desired outcome is. You want him to be a wrong un? Or you want everyone to take off their optimistic glasses and be a cynical grouch? What do you want to happen, ownership-wise?
Like everyone I’m grateful for what Thomas did to rescue the club from ESI and admin and the improving atmosphere around the club.
Do I like Sandgaard? no not particularly. I don’t like his show off personality, I don’t like how he makes everything about him, how media hungry he is and I’ve not agreed with a good few of his decisions.
I’ve also been told a few things about how he works I’ve not liked what I’ve been told.
On top of that I don’t think he has the funds to do what he promised - I think he’ll be gone within 3-5 years - just my opinion, not fact.
If I could have had a choice I’d have picked Barclay & Varney over Sandgaard without hesitation.…. and yes I genuinely believe the trip to the pub was all about winning back some goodwill, but that’s not fact just my opinions.
With all these facts I feel like Rafa Benitez.
He is different to what went before and entitled to be so. Not perfect but not necessarily wrong / bad either.2 -
I really dont know why there is so much bed wetting going on.
Thomas said 30-60 days, that takes us to the middle of next week. He probably shouldn't have said it but it is what it is.
He hasn't appointed someone else. From all sources there are negotiations on going. It's easy for fans to say "give him what ever he wants", because, well it is. If we always did that we have Lyle Taylor in the pay roll on 40k a week!!
There is absolutely no reason to believe he won't get it the job. Thomas, in all honesty, is doing what he should be doing to protect his business. He hasn't gone back on his word, yet.
I am not sure why any adult could be insulated by it and being insulted on JJs behalf, when there is no indication he is, is ummm unique.12 -
valleynick66 said:Maccn05 said:Jonniesta said:Maccn05 said:Bedsaddick said:Maccn05 said:Thomas out down the pub smoozing fans, is clearly a PR stunt to win back goodwill after a shocking week for him, quite clever really, although very cynical.
Sandgaard has low-balled the offer the JJ and they are at a standoff. We will have to see who blinks first.
Facts are Thomas has had a terrible week or PR and his manger hasn’t signed to low-ball contract that he’s offered (also on short terms)
Suddenly the owner is down the pub taking selfie’s left, right and centre and telling everyone he’s offered terms (much lower than JJ’s ask) and that his agent (JJ’s dad) won’t sign it.
If you can’t see the games being played here then sorry but I can’t help you
Thomas is trying to force JJ into signing a much lower and shorter contract but also preparing a cover story in case he walks as he knows the fan base will erupt!
TS has been down the pub with fans since before he joined, so don't think you can level accusations of manipulation on him there. It's hardly 'suddenly'.
You seem to have a real agenda against him and I can't work out what your desired outcome is. You want him to be a wrong un? Or you want everyone to take off their optimistic glasses and be a cynical grouch? What do you want to happen, ownership-wise?
Like everyone I’m grateful for what Thomas did to rescue the club from ESI and admin and the improving atmosphere around the club.
Do I like Sandgaard? no not particularly. I don’t like his show off personality, I don’t like how he makes everything about him, how media hungry he is and I’ve not agreed with a good few of his decisions.
I’ve also been told a few things about how he works I’ve not liked what I’ve been told.
On top of that I don’t think he has the funds to do what he promised - I think he’ll be gone within 3-5 years - just my opinion, not fact.
If I could have had a choice I’d have picked Barclay & Varney over Sandgaard without hesitation.…. and yes I genuinely believe the trip to the pub was all about winning back some goodwill, but that’s not fact just my opinions.
With all these facts I feel like Rafa Benitez.
He is different to what went before and entitled to be so. Not perfect but not necessarily wrong / bad either.
However I’ve worked at 2 large American corporates for almost 15 years and I didn’t come across any Sandgaard’s on the exec team… thank goodness ☺️0 -
Cafc43v3r said:I really know why there is so much bed wetting going on.
Thomas said 30-60 days, that takes us to the middle of next week. He probably shouldn't have said it but it is what it is.
He hasn't appointed someone else. From all sources there are negotiations on going. It's easy for fans to say "give him what ever he wants", because, well it is. If we always did that we have Lyle Taylor in the pay roll on 40k a week!!
There is absolutely no reason to believe he won't get it the job. Thomas, in all honesty, is doing what he should be doing to protect his business. He hasn't gone back on his word, yet.
I am not sure why any adult could be insulated by it and being insulted on JJs behalf, when there is no indication he is, is ummm unique.
I am not wetting my bed, insulted, worried or tweeting TS asking why the delay. Chill, Christmas is coming1 -
Main reason i keep checking this thread is the rather delightful 'Boux Avenue' adverts that are on it via a 'sponsored link' - no bed wetting as such3
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Maccn05 said:Jonniesta said:Maccn05 said:Bedsaddick said:Maccn05 said:Thomas out down the pub smoozing fans, is clearly a PR stunt to win back goodwill after a shocking week for him, quite clever really, although very cynical.
Sandgaard has low-balled the offer the JJ and they are at a standoff. We will have to see who blinks first.
Facts are Thomas has had a terrible week or PR and his manger hasn’t signed to low-ball contract that he’s offered (also on short terms)
Suddenly the owner is down the pub taking selfie’s left, right and centre and telling everyone he’s offered terms (much lower than JJ’s ask) and that his agent (JJ’s dad) won’t sign it.
If you can’t see the games being played here then sorry but I can’t help you
Thomas is trying to force JJ into signing a much lower and shorter contract but also preparing a cover story in case he walks as he knows the fan base will erupt!
TS has been down the pub with fans since before he joined, so don't think you can level accusations of manipulation on him there. It's hardly 'suddenly'.
You seem to have a real agenda against him and I can't work out what your desired outcome is. You want him to be a wrong un? Or you want everyone to take off their optimistic glasses and be a cynical grouch? What do you want to happen, ownership-wise?
Like everyone I’m grateful for what Thomas did to rescue the club from ESI and admin and the improving atmosphere around the club.
Do I like Sandgaard? no not particularly. I don’t like his show off personality, I don’t like how he makes everything about him, how media hungry he is and I’ve not agreed with a good few of his decisions.
I’ve also been told a few things about how he works I’ve not liked what I’ve been told.
On top of that I don’t think he has the funds to do what he promised - I think he’ll be gone within 3-5 years - just my opinion, not fact.
If I could have had a choice I’d have picked Barclay & Varney over Sandgaard without hesitation.…. and yes I genuinely believe the trip to the pub was all about winning back some goodwill, but that’s not fact just my opinions.
With all these facts I feel like Rafa Benitez.
I agree the way he handled the women's team rebrand is an error.
The funding point is an interesting one. I don’t know more than Zynex' accounts, but seems pretty positive.
And whilst I can see he's more visible in the media than most owners, this means he's open to media scrutiny, which is a massive plus for us given previous regimes (and why healthy scepticism (which I think you've gone past recently) is a positive). But he's in this country, going to all the games, interacting with fans and club at all levels, and has ambition. Just think he might be worth you giving him a second look.
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Maccn05 said:Bedsaddick said:Maccn05 said:Bedsaddick said:Maccn05 said:Thomas out down the pub smoozing fans, is clearly a PR stunt to win back goodwill after a shocking week for him, quite clever really, although very cynical.
Sandgaard has low-balled the offer the JJ and they are at a standoff. We will have to see who blinks first.
Facts are Thomas has had a terrible week or PR and his manger hasn’t signed to low-ball contract that he’s offered (also on short terms)
Suddenly the owner is down the pub taking selfie’s left, right and centre and telling everyone he’s offered terms (much lower than JJ’s ask) and that his agent (JJ’s dad) won’t sign it.
If you can’t see the games being played here then sorry but I can’t help you
Thomas is trying to force JJ into signing a much lower and shorter contract but also preparing a cover story in case he walks as he knows the fan base will erupt!
Coming from the guy getting excited that TS liked his tweet 🤦🏻♂️You can’t compete .0 -
Maccn05 said:Jonniesta said:Maccn05 said:Bedsaddick said:Maccn05 said:Thomas out down the pub smoozing fans, is clearly a PR stunt to win back goodwill after a shocking week for him, quite clever really, although very cynical.
Sandgaard has low-balled the offer the JJ and they are at a standoff. We will have to see who blinks first.
Facts are Thomas has had a terrible week or PR and his manger hasn’t signed to low-ball contract that he’s offered (also on short terms)
Suddenly the owner is down the pub taking selfie’s left, right and centre and telling everyone he’s offered terms (much lower than JJ’s ask) and that his agent (JJ’s dad) won’t sign it.
If you can’t see the games being played here then sorry but I can’t help you
Thomas is trying to force JJ into signing a much lower and shorter contract but also preparing a cover story in case he walks as he knows the fan base will erupt!
TS has been down the pub with fans since before he joined, so don't think you can level accusations of manipulation on him there. It's hardly 'suddenly'.
You seem to have a real agenda against him and I can't work out what your desired outcome is. You want him to be a wrong un? Or you want everyone to take off their optimistic glasses and be a cynical grouch? What do you want to happen, ownership-wise?
Like everyone I’m grateful for what Thomas did to rescue the club from ESI and admin and the improving atmosphere around the club.
Do I like Sandgaard? no not particularly. I don’t like his show off personality, I don’t like how he makes everything about him, how media hungry he is and I’ve not agreed with a good few of his decisions.
I’ve also been told a few things about how he works I’ve not liked what I’ve been told.
On top of that I don’t think he has the funds to do what he promised - I think he’ll be gone within 3-5 years - just my opinion, not fact.
If I could have had a choice I’d have picked Barclay & Varney over Sandgaard without hesitation.…. and yes I genuinely believe the trip to the pub was all about winning back some goodwill, but that’s not fact just my opinions.
With all these facts I feel like Rafa Benitez.
With regard to funding, Sandgaard said early doors he will look for further investment as/when it is needed.
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ElliotCAFC said:Gary Poole said:ElliotCAFC said:Gary Poole said:ShootersHillGuru said:I have a gut feeling that TS has his sights set on a foreign coach, who perhaps isn’t as yet available. Jackson is giving TS a headache. I doubt JJ has been offered anything longer than 18 months and is balking at it. I’m still convinced though that a deal will be made.0
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https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/61b47d3d40d73/fans-forum-johnnie-jackson-charlton-womenladies-full-time-music
The name change IS happening and won't be reversed. So he is not totally beholden to public opinion, for better or worse.
What this means for Jackson and the negotiations, well, that remains to be seen. But let's not put too much weight on supporter opinion as a deciding factor.1