The more this drags on the more worried I get . If TS is seriously thinking of appointing someone other than Jacko he is not the shrewd businessman we are lead to believe or he’s being advised wrongly . At the moment, the longer this drags on the longer it feels like he’s waiting for Jacko to fail and that’s a massive mistake . 100% of the fans want him to get the job and if he goes against the will of the fans then he’s not learned a single thing from Charlton’s history .
Would that not depend on how well whatever Jackson's replacement did?
Get a manager that continues the run, he's done well.
Get a manager that fails, he's made a brutal mistake as Jackson was doing well.
Jeez...... didn't our friend from Belgium allegedly want to appoint Hasslebank at one point?
Any new manager is a risk, whoever it is, at least with JJ he's had a chance to see what you're likely to get. I really don't see what decision there is to make. Who else is out that available that would give you confidence they would do better than Jackson?
He went with Adkins due to his 'vast experience and success at this level' - look how that turned out.
With sensible backing Jackson will get us promoted, of that I have no doubt (might be a tall order this season mind you). Thomas wants to fill the Valley, he'll help achieve that, he'll walk over hot coals for this club, for god sake man, sign him up ASAP!!
He holds fond memories of his playing career here. Waxes lyrical all the time apparently that we were able to find XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXL size shorts for him in no time at all.
He might have fond memories but I certainly don’t. Overpaid, overweight, lazy and utterly hopeless for us.
I can’t believe we would even consider him.
Jackson, has proved he has the players onside and he certainly has the fans backing.
In his caretaker capacity, JJ is doing the business. The players have bought in 100%.
The current arrangement is working like a charm.
When you have a winning formula, cherish, savour, and act quickly before another Owner makes an offer to Johnnie Jackson that he can't refuse for his family's sake, even if JJ loves Cafc and wants the job.
I wanted Jacko to be manager after he was caretaker last season, and forget the dangerous game of keeping the status quo, because he wants the Job full time now, and I don't understand the words of Thomas Sandgaard that he can go back to being a coach if they bring in a manager from outside.
Not now he won't, because other owners and fans from the EFL will notice how a team in free fall and according to cafc fan base "worst team in Charlton athletic history" have turned into a super fit motivated, skilled team, that are fit to wear the shirt and can take on and compete with the best teams in the division after being in 22nd place and heading down.
I have stated on several occasions that JJ will be a successful manager; Sandgaard can make sure it's with CAFC ASAP, because just like young talent in football they are in great demand.
My view as well. Why would Jacko take his foot off the pedal if he gets a permanent contract ? He is at the start of his career in management and has something to prove (and is doing so). He will only get better with experience, which I hope he will get at Charlton, but there will be other clubs sniffing around before too long, contract or no contract.
In his caretaker capacity, JJ is doing the business. The players have bought in 100%.
The current arrangement is working like a charm.
When you have a winning formula, cherish, savour, and act quickly before another Owner makes an offer to Johnnie Jackson that he can't refuse for his family's sake, even if JJ loves Cafc and wants the job.
I wanted Jacko to be manager after he was caretaker last season, and forget the dangerous game of keeping the status quo, because he wants the Job full time now, and I don't understand the words of Thomas Sandgaard that he can go back to being a coach if they bring in a manager from outside.
Not now he won't, because other owners and fans from the EFL will notice how a team in free fall and according to cafc fan base "worst team in Charlton athletic history" have turned into a super fit motivated, skilled team, that are fit to wear the shirt and can take on and compete with the best teams in the division after being in 22nd place and heading down.
I have stated on several occasions that JJ will be a successful manager; Sandgaard can make sure it's with CAFC ASAP, because just like young talent in football they are in great demand.
My view as well. Why would Jacko take his foot off the pedal if he gets a permanent contract ? He is at the start of his career in management and has something to prove (and is doing so). He will only get better with experience, which I hope he will get at Charlton, but there will be other clubs sniffing around before too long, contract or no contract.
Exactly, look at Bowyer - got relegated as well as promoted, had a pretty poor reputation personally after disciplinary issues in his playing career, and still got a Championship job on better wages.
If Jackson, who's younger & more likeable, can do well with us he'd be well placed for a very good job even if it goes a bit South with us.
I’m confused by “If it ain’t broke, don’t try and fix it.” Does that mean don’t give JJ the gig, because it’s working with him as caretaker?
For me, it means there's no need to rush to a decision. Johnny is doing the biz, so no, it doesn't mean don't give him the gig but if I was the owner, I'd let it ride for a while.
I'm hoping that TS is planning on interviewing a bunch of people and then when he announces JJ, he can say something like "we interviewed a lot of high profile and experienced managers, but Jacko was head and shoulders above them all. I knew JJ was the man, but wanted him to know how highly he rates amongst his competition"
I was hoping JJ would be given a chance. I liked the fact he has wanted the job for a few years now and imagined that he would be thoughtful and analytical and certainly worth a try. Of course I didn't know he would successful, just thought he might be. Nobody could know. But as others have said, we don't know if any manager would be successful. Look at Adkins! With JJ, it was a low risk choice because if he failed to impress, he was already on the payroll and being a valued coach, he could have stepped back into the role. With a chance of failure a constant when appointing a manager, it makes sense to take a low risk chance and I felt it should have been done last season. Sandgaard was happy to wait for Bowyer to go which impacted on our promotion push and I suspect Adkins was appointed with a mind on the seasons beyond last.
However, what we have seen is JJ being given a chance and taking it with both hands. It would have been perfectly understandable that plans were being made when Adkins left to find the best replacement and at that time, we would have been happy if that search was ongoing had JJ failed or was doing averagely. But sometimes if you give the right person his or her chance they take it and that is what has happened here and every great manager got a chance somewhere. A sizeable number of fans were making the case for JJ not to be given a chance as he was part of the problem. But that has changed, and it isn't about people being right or wrong, it is about JJ and what he has achieved in a short space of time. Managers that do what he has don't grow on trees and Sandgaard has a probably unexpected commodity growing in front of his eyes. A point will come when we may have stiff competition to keep JJ and that is why we can't let this drag on too long.
Whilst the quotes attributed to TS about managers and coaches employed elsewhere is certainly unorthodox, I do believe him to be a fair and loyal man. Look at the loyalty he showed to Bowyer who wasn't even his man for example.
Both JJ and TS have said that they are talking regularly and we obviously aren't privy to that. I think TS is just taking the opportunity to put JJ through an incredibly vigorous job interview process whilst JJ is at the wheel.
It is of course TS right to do as he pleases whether we like it or not and whilst he is prone to the odd gaffe, from what I see and hear of TS i don't believe that he will shaft JJ.
In the most recent interview with TS on the pitch before the match he said 30 to 60 days to decide - the 30 is the shortest I’ve heard from him and hopefully suggests a retraction from the ‘decide in December’ stuff that he said a few weeks ago - hopefully re positioning things for the big appointment and restructuring before he goes back
In the most recent interview with TS on the pitch before the match he said 30 to 60 days to decide - the 30 is the shortest I’ve heard from him and hopefully suggests a retraction from the ‘decide in December’ stuff that he said a few weeks ago - hopefully re positioning things for the big appointment and restructuring before he goes back
December is only a week away, so not necessarily a retraction. Morecombe tonight and Shrewsbury Saturday are two teams below us in the table. Convincing wins making it 19 out of a possible 21 points and lifting us into the top 10 would have to seal the job for Jackson you would have thought.
There's also the January transfer window to think about. You'd think that a new manager would need to be in place within the next couple of weeks so that proper planning for January could be done. The fact we've not heard any realistic names touted (JFH is never going to happen, and Beale has gone with Gerrard to Villa, so there's no other names that have leaked into the public eye) would suggest that JJ is in prime position to either get the gig fulltime, or at least get an extended run as interim manager.
Tbh I like most have been amazed at the turnaround since JJ took over. How a group of player can go from being so dire to ones that look like they could win this title at a canter has been astounding, I honestly would not have thought it possible in such a short timeframe, so all credit to JJ and the coaching staff. If I were JJ I would have been pissed off by that interview last week where TS named names etc as it was not very respectful imo. On the other hand I can see why nothing has happened yet in terms of appointing JJ as if anything the turnaround has been so shocking that it might be a flash in the pan ( I dont think that myself by the way ). The trouble is that all runs come to an end so when is the right time ? if we lose 2 or 3 games on the bounce then would that mean he isnt the right man ? Imo opinion JJ should be given the job now until the end os the season and then see where we are at, the performances so far dictate atleast that, imagine if someone else came in and we went on a poor run there would be murders !
I believe it’s all agents talk and self promotion but if either Harris or JFH were instilled ahead of Jacko, it would be 1 x season ticket being handed back in
Not meaning to be critical of our owner but he does seem to suffer with runaway mouth at times. Spent too long in the USA perhaps.
It's possible a lot of the issues that people have with some things he's said (and I do think that he's said some questionable things) ultimately AREN'T "what did he mean" because he didn't mean anything. Engaged mouth before brain.
For example, his comments about Jackson going back to being assistant - any serious thought of this would be laughable. The real problem being, no serious thought was behind it but he said it and now it's out there in print.
I'm not impressed with TS interview and comments. There was praise for JJ but his criticism of not playing out from the back is unnecessary and a mistake.
If TS thinks that he can hold off in order to get a better option to get us playing out from the back better, then he is a fool.
Just what is the primary purpose of running a football club if it isn't about results? JJ has turned around a grossly under performing squad that was heading for relegation into a squad we all believe could be looking to challenge come the end of the season.
Of course there are no guarantees, but TS would be taking an almighty gamble if he brought anybody else in. Why would he bring in a good number 2, unproven (I think) at number 1 to replace a caretaker with such a record?
Of course JJ will walk if he doesn't get his chance this time, he will get other offers and I wouldn't blame him.
I don't have a problem with giving JJ some more time before confirming his position and perhaps TS is trying to motivate him? I wouldn't be motivated personally, I would be annoyed if I were JJ if I wasn't getting the right messages in private, I don't think the interview is motivation.
I really want Jacko to get the job, but TS is hesitant I think because they get contracts all wrong in football these days. They should give Jacko a contract until June. On it can be written that if we go up he gets a two year extension. If we finish top 8 for example, it's a one year extension. In short, start with 6-12 month contracts and agree at that point how League performance leads to extension or termination.
I think all the fretting about this says far more about a fanbase who has seen their club take years of abuse at the hands of idiots and chancers than it does about the current custodian. Sandgaard isn't a stupid man. I think we can all afford to relax a bit, enjoy tonight's match and look forward to some good news in the near future.
I think all the fretting about this says far more about a fanbase who has seen their club take years of abuse at the hands of idiots and chancers than it does about the current custodian. Sandgaard isn't a stupid man. I think we can all afford to relax a bit, enjoy tonight's match and look forward to some good news in the near future.
I think there is some truth in that. It isn't as if we have been once bitten, but we have been bitten all over the place.
It's really hard to say what's going on behind the scenes and who has been at fault for the summer recruitment being slow and poor start, which is why its throws up huge debates. Under Roland and Meire it was very easy to see they was at fault, over anyone else.
When I started to feel concerned about TS was that interview he gave with Lucy, where he didn't seem very comfortable when asked the question about what Roddy does and seem to list various things he in charge of, i.e. medical and youth side of things, but then we here differently in other sources and at the Q and A with Roddy and Gallen. I also don't think he seemed comfortable when asked the other questions, especially about the "Blow The League Out The Water" comment.
He needs to properly explain what Roddy does and the power he holds at the club, because to me it comes across like he has given him a free role do what he wants, which is poor if true. The quicker he does this, the more clear it will be for everyone and can stop all the rumours or conspiracies flying around.
Apologies if someone has already made this point, but as a businessman, I'd hold off for as long as I could sensibly get away with if I was TS ,because I would be trying to defer some of Adkins costs who will still be being paid, 2 months of having Jacko as caretaker and without Nigel has probably saved me c £60-80k in potential double salaries.
JJ should be in a rush to take up the role permanently as this will be his last job with CAFC - let us all hope it's a long successful appointment a la Curbs
I got round to watching the inside the 72 interview and I suggest everyone watch it. Really well researched questions and superbly answered by Jackson. I refuse to believe that any interview that Sangaard could conduct would produce more of a convincing case for employment.
I got round to watching the inside the 72 interview and I suggest everyone watch it. Really well researched questions and superbly answered by Jackson. I refuse to believe that any interview that Sangaard could conduct would produce more of a convincing case for employment.
I got round to watching the inside the 72 interview and I suggest everyone watch it. Really well researched questions and superbly answered by Jackson. I refuse to believe that any interview that Sangaard could conduct would produce more of a convincing case for employment.
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Get a manager that continues the run, he's done well.
Get a manager that fails, he's made a brutal mistake as Jackson was doing well.
I reckon he's been paraphrased as per media norm.
Any new manager is a risk, whoever it is, at least with JJ he's had a chance to see what you're likely to get. I really don't see what decision there is to make. Who else is out that available that would give you confidence they would do better than Jackson?
He went with Adkins due to his 'vast experience and success at this level' - look how that turned out.
With sensible backing Jackson will get us promoted, of that I have no doubt (might be a tall order this season mind you). Thomas wants to fill the Valley, he'll help achieve that, he'll walk over hot coals for this club, for god sake man, sign him up ASAP!!
Jackson, has proved he has the players onside and he certainly has the fans backing.
What is Sandgard waiting for?
If Jackson, who's younger & more likeable, can do well with us he'd be well placed for a very good job even if it goes a bit South with us.
However, what we have seen is JJ being given a chance and taking it with both hands. It would have been perfectly understandable that plans were being made when Adkins left to find the best replacement and at that time, we would have been happy if that search was ongoing had JJ failed or was doing averagely. But sometimes if you give the right person his or her chance they take it and that is what has happened here and every great manager got a chance somewhere. A sizeable number of fans were making the case for JJ not to be given a chance as he was part of the problem. But that has changed, and it isn't about people being right or wrong, it is about JJ and what he has achieved in a short space of time. Managers that do what he has don't grow on trees and Sandgaard has a probably unexpected commodity growing in front of his eyes. A point will come when we may have stiff competition to keep JJ and that is why we can't let this drag on too long.
Both JJ and TS have said that they are talking regularly and we obviously aren't privy to that. I think TS is just taking the opportunity to put JJ through an incredibly vigorous job interview process whilst JJ is at the wheel.
It is of course TS right to do as he pleases whether we like it or not and whilst he is prone to the odd gaffe, from what I see and hear of TS i don't believe that he will shaft JJ.
TS isn't stupid, he can clearly see the improvement in the last 4-5 weeks and hear the fans singing Jackson's name.
There's also the January transfer window to think about. You'd think that a new manager would need to be in place within the next couple of weeks so that proper planning for January could be done. The fact we've not heard any realistic names touted (JFH is never going to happen, and Beale has gone with Gerrard to Villa, so there's no other names that have leaked into the public eye) would suggest that JJ is in prime position to either get the gig fulltime, or at least get an extended run as interim manager.
If I were JJ I would have been pissed off by that interview last week where TS named names etc as it was not very respectful imo. On the other hand I can see why nothing has happened yet in terms of appointing JJ as if anything the turnaround has been so shocking that it might be a flash in the pan ( I dont think that myself by the way ). The trouble is that all runs come to an end so when is the right time ? if we lose 2 or 3 games on the bounce then would that mean he isnt the right man ? Imo opinion JJ should be given the job now until the end os the season and then see where we are at, the performances so far dictate atleast that, imagine if someone else came in and we went on a poor run there would be murders !
For example, his comments about Jackson going back to being assistant - any serious thought of this would be laughable. The real problem being, no serious thought was behind it but he said it and now it's out there in print.
If TS thinks that he can hold off in order to get a better option to get us playing out from the back better, then he is a fool.
Just what is the primary purpose of running a football club if it isn't about results? JJ has turned around a grossly under performing squad that was heading for relegation into a squad we all believe could be looking to challenge come the end of the season.
Of course there are no guarantees, but TS would be taking an almighty gamble if he brought anybody else in. Why would he bring in a good number 2, unproven (I think) at number 1 to replace a caretaker with such a record?
Of course JJ will walk if he doesn't get his chance this time, he will get other offers and I wouldn't blame him.
I don't have a problem with giving JJ some more time before confirming his position and perhaps TS is trying to motivate him? I wouldn't be motivated personally, I would be annoyed if I were JJ if I wasn't getting the right messages in private, I don't think the interview is motivation.
When I started to feel concerned about TS was that interview he gave with Lucy, where he didn't seem very comfortable when asked the question about what Roddy does and seem to list various things he in charge of, i.e. medical and youth side of things, but then we here differently in other sources and at the Q and A with Roddy and Gallen. I also don't think he seemed comfortable when asked the other questions, especially about the "Blow The League Out The Water" comment.
He needs to properly explain what Roddy does and the power he holds at the club, because to me it comes across like he has given him a free role do what he wants, which is poor if true. The quicker he does this, the more clear it will be for everyone and can stop all the rumours or conspiracies flying around.