No, I don't vote at all, I'm not watching it, but I am angry that Matt Hancock's efforts in the jungle do seem to have convinced a lot of people that he's actually a decent person.
You can be a decent person and be incompetent at your job. It is not one or the other
Or you could be like @ricky_otto who’s incompetent at his job and a wanker
I can’t really argue with this. I’ve realised that there is no point in being anything else than incompetent at your job. You can either go to work and knock your pan out, or go to work and do fuck all (as you know this is my preference) - whatever you do, the payslip at the end of the month shows the same amount. And if they don’t like my work ethic, they shouldn’t have employed me in the first place! I just see it as paid early retirement
Can’t argue with that mate. I can feel a puncture coming on
Jesus, as I tried to subtly say earlier, I have never voted Tory in a general election. If you’re critical (and rightly so) of Hancock and his ilk of their performance over Covid then in my opinion you cannot separate than from the effect that a Tory Government has on the less well off in society over the years.
I have no issue with the way people vote, that’s their choice, but discuss elsewhere.
Matt Hancock is only in the jungle to improve his image and to deflect from decisions taken that affected many people's lives, that does not apply to any of the other contestants.
If anyone is stupid enough to think oh Matt Hancock is just misunderstood for his fuck ups because he’s done alright in the jungle then that’s their own fuckwittery
Unfortunately it seems that many are that stupid.
What evidence do you have for this? Surely not because people want to see more of him in a reality tv show where you have to do disgusting trials?
Tha fact that he is still in the jungle for a start. I've seen many comments in the media suggesting that he has won over viewers whilst in the jungle.
It’s for a game show!!!! Voting him in to eat kangaroo nuts doesn’t mean he’s been forgiven
This is what DamoNorth Stand posted earlier, it seems he has been fooled and others too:
Hancock has already come out of this ten times better than I expected when he went in (couldn’t imagine anyone voting for him).
I like him as a campmate. I find all of them left quite vanilla but he’s no worse than anyone else.
Biggest line I have see since he has gone on the show? “If it’s his fault why all these people died of Covid, does he also take the credit for presiding over a globally admired vaccine roll out. We lead the way.”
Cant have it both ways. He was either to blame for both or not responsible for either.
Stop trying to insult my intelligence. No need to be so fucking rude.
I'm not being rude at all, you stated that you think he has come out of this better than you expected, which proves my point that for some he has succeeded in cleaning up his image.
To be fair, you did suggest he'd been "fooled" just because he doesnt share your opinion.
That said, this reminds me of that old saying, "a fool and his tape measure are easily parted".
Fact isn't an opinion, and it IS a fact that Matt Hancock and the Government were found to have acted illegally in discharging untested people into care homes.
The video was a reminder of Matt Hancock's behaviour which so many seem to have forgotten. Why not save your anger for the man whom the High Court found to have acted illegally, resulting in thousands of people dying.
Hancock has already come out of this ten times better than I expected when he went in (couldn’t imagine anyone voting for him).
I like him as a campmate. I find all of them left quite vanilla but he’s no worse than anyone else.
Biggest line I have see since he has gone on the show? “If it’s his fault why all these people died of Covid, does he also take the credit for presiding over a globally admired vaccine roll out. We lead the way.”
Cant have it both ways. He was either to blame for both or not responsible for either.
You are forgetting that there was a court ruling that found that the Government & Matt Hancock as Health Secretary, acted illegally in discharging untested patients into care homes. Matt Hancock also lied in stating that a protective ring had been put around care homes right from the start. Warnings of asymptomatic transmission were given well before the instruction was given to discharge people with no symptoms into care homes. Matt Hancock had to apologise for all of this.
but what has that got to do with his performance in the jungle?
As other contestants have said, there is a difference between Matt Hancock politician and Matt the jungle camp mate
Should Owen not win because his acting in Hollyoaks is rubbish?
Should Jill not win as she was a liability when she came on in the Euros?
Should Seann not have been there for having an affair when he was on Strictly
Should Boy George not have been there for being convicted of false imprisonment ?
Matt Hancock is only in the jungle to improve his image and to deflect from decisions taken that affected many people's lives, that does not apply to any of the other contestants.
Matt Hancock is only in the jungle to improve his image and to deflect from decisions taken that affected many people's lives, that does not apply to any of the other contestants.
You are incorrect, they are all in there to improve their image
Perhaps I worded that incorrectly. Matt Hancock is the only contestant who made decisions that affected thousands of people's lives.
I won't watch it on principle, but has anyone in the jungle actually asked Matt Hancock about the court ruling that it was unlawful to send untested people into care homes? From what I've read elsewhere he is concentrating more on his affair, than a decision that cost many families to lose a loved one unnecessarily. No doubt he is there to deflect from that dreadful decision and sadly it appears to be working.
Everyone is allowed an opinion but love the irony that an account called Led by Donkeys is calling to vote someone out when you technically cant when its vote to stay
The main point of the video is to show just what a despicable character Matt Hancock is. His affair was a minor misdemeanour in comparison to some of the decisions made which resulted in the deaths of thousands of people, his lies and corruption which wasted billions of pounds of taxpayer's money. This man should not be trying to clean up his image by taking part in a television programme.
The families of all those who died as a result of his decisions, this cannot be separated from his appearance on I'm a Celebrity. His appearance on that programme is to clean up his image, and it seems to be working from some of the comments.
Matt Hancock is a politician and a contestant on I'm a Celebrity, so perfectly reasonable to discuss both. I could say all those who choose to criticise me are ruining the thread.
Do any of you actually think it is acceptable for a serving politician to take part in the show, especially one who has made so many bad decisions? He is there for one reason only, to deflect from those terrible decisions.
Ok we get it! You don't need to make the same point over and over on almost every page of this thread.
The bullying of ME14 on this thread is truly wondrous.
Why Hancock rather than anybody else, what makes him the ‘celebrity’ as the programme title suggests? A footballer?
A singer?
No a politician. The footballer is famous for winning the Euro’s, the singer is famous for getting number one in the hit parade, Hancock is famous for presiding over, profiting from, and causing the deaths of thousands. People are entitled to say the footballer is crap in the way they play, or the singer is boring in the way they sing, and similarly they are entitled to say the politician is a foul, mendacious, evil person in the way they politicise.
The other criticism of Hancock turning his ‘celebrity’ into light entertainment is that he is paid out of the public purse to serve his constituents, which he isn’t doing whilst ‘entertaining’ the nation. Instead he is pocketing a pretty penny doing this crappy second job.
If folk only want to focus on the way Hancock is doing this second job then fine, but it is also valid to focus on what supposedly makes him the ‘celebrity’ in the first place.
The bullying of ME14 on this thread is truly wondrous.
Why Hancock rather than anybody else, what makes him the ‘celebrity’ as the programme title suggests? A footballer?
A singer?
No a politician. The footballer is famous for winning the Euro’s, the singer is famous for getting number one in the hit parade, Hancock is famous for presiding over, profiting from, and causing the deaths of thousands. People are entitled to say the footballer is crap in the way they play, or the singer is boring in the way they sing, and similarly they are entitled to say the politician is a foul, mendacious, evil person in the way they politicise.
The other criticism of Hancock turning his ‘celebrity’ into light entertainment is that he is paid out of the public purse to serve his constituents, which he isn’t doing whilst ‘entertaining’ the nation. Instead he is pocketing a pretty penny doing this crappy second job.
If folk only want to focus on the way Hancock is doing this second job then fine, but it is also valid to focus on what supposedly makes him the ‘celebrity’ in the first place.
Not been any bullying. The poster in question has been on here politicizing the thread when the thread is about a TV programme. The poster has a vendetta against one of the contestants whom they see as being personally responsible for thousands of deaths which isn't true.
The bullying of ME14 on this thread is truly wondrous.
Why Hancock rather than anybody else, what makes him the ‘celebrity’ as the programme title suggests? A footballer?
A singer?
No a politician. The footballer is famous for winning the Euro’s, the singer is famous for getting number one in the hit parade, Hancock is famous for presiding over, profiting from, and causing the deaths of thousands. People are entitled to say the footballer is crap in the way they play, or the singer is boring in the way they sing, and similarly they are entitled to say the politician is a foul, mendacious, evil person in the way they politicise.
The other criticism of Hancock turning his ‘celebrity’ into light entertainment is that he is paid out of the public purse to serve his constituents, which he isn’t doing whilst ‘entertaining’ the nation. Instead he is pocketing a pretty penny doing this crappy second job.
If folk only want to focus on the way Hancock is doing this second job then fine, but it is also valid to focus on what supposedly makes him the ‘celebrity’ in the first place.
Not been any bullying. The poster in question has been on here politicizing the thread when the thread is about a TV programme. The poster has a vendetta against one of the contestants whom they see as being personally responsible for thousands of deaths which isn't true.
My post above has been about the TV programme where the contestants are supposed to be celebrities, and it is therefore valid to explore what gives those contestants celebrity status in the first place. That is not politicising the thread. ME14 has been doing that, but the bullying is describing what she is doing as a ‘vendetta’ or other such terms, rather than as a person raising valid points. So yes, it has been bullying by a group of people against one individual. I would imagine ME14 can (and indeed has) withstand the bullying and her persistence and consistency is something I admire.
Head Arbiter has spoken and has dictated two points –
- Hancock is not to be referred to as a celebrity.
- Anyone who disagrees with ME14 (who's views happen to
align with his) is a bully.
- The introduction of Quorn Kangeroo vegina can wait for later date.
If you are referencing me then I do not arbitrate over anything. Like you and others I express my point of view. I disagree with ME14 over tons and tons of stuff, our views certainly don’t align. Hancock can be referred to as a celebrity as much as you like, but as a consequence his celebrity status is entitled to be questioned and criticised isn’t it? You’ve got me on your final point, as a vegetarian I don’t see what’s entertaining watching people turn their stomachs into graveyards for decomposing once living creatures.
Not a lot. His music is ultimately rather boring and insipid, and his criminality in attacking Andun Carlson was proven and he was punished. If that behaviour makes him a celebrity then he can be compared to Hancock in the poor decision to make nasty people part of light entertainment. See also Rolf Harris and others.
The bullying of ME14 on this thread is truly wondrous.
Why Hancock rather than anybody else, what makes him the ‘celebrity’ as the programme title suggests? A footballer?
A singer?
No a politician. The footballer is famous for winning the Euro’s, the singer is famous for getting number one in the hit parade, Hancock is famous for presiding over, profiting from, and causing the deaths of thousands. People are entitled to say the footballer is crap in the way they play, or the singer is boring in the way they sing, and similarly they are entitled to say the politician is a foul, mendacious, evil person in the way they politicise.
The other criticism of Hancock turning his ‘celebrity’ into light entertainment is that he is paid out of the public purse to serve his constituents, which he isn’t doing whilst ‘entertaining’ the nation. Instead he is pocketing a pretty penny doing this crappy second job.
If folk only want to focus on the way Hancock is doing this second job then fine, but it is also valid to focus on what supposedly makes him the ‘celebrity’ in the first place.
Not been any bullying. The poster in question has been on here politicizing the thread when the thread is about a TV programme. The poster has a vendetta against one of the contestants whom they see as being personally responsible for thousands of deaths which isn't true.
Matt Hancock is a politician and as Seth says, the only reason for his 'celebrity' status is that of a politician, and one who is only in the jungle to clean up his image, which from the comments on here and others I've seen on social media, certainly seems to have worked. How can you possibly separate his actions in the jungle from the actions he has taken as a politician.
Did you read the links I posted yesterday regarding the court case and the lies that Matt Hancock told?
I find it incredibly sad that so many are now voting for this man, who has had a very unsavoury career. If he does win then I hope that he faces much greater scrutiny of his actions, which he surely will during the Covid inquiry.
Head Arbiter has spoken and has dictated two points –
- Hancock is not to be referred to as a celebrity.
- Anyone who disagrees with ME14 (who's views happen to
align with his) is a bully.
- The introduction of Quorn Kangeroo vegina can wait for later date.
If you are referencing me then I do not arbitrate over anything. Like you and others I express my point of view. I disagree with ME14 over tons and tons of stuff, our views certainly don’t align. Hancock can be referred to as a celebrity as much as you like, but as a consequence his celebrity status is entitled to be questioned and criticised isn’t it? You’ve got me on your final point, as a vegetarian I don’t see what’s entertaining watching people turn their stomachs into graveyards for decomposing once living creatures.
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Seems the voting public are either very PRO Matt or very ANTI Matt. But enough are pro that they have got him into the the final.
The Anti Matt lot are not necessarily massively behind any of the others. They are just anti him.
So Jill and Owen will see the vote split.
When it comes to the final there will be a massive surge to stop him winning.
I will guess:
1) Jill
2) Matt
3) Owen
You’re my lover not my rival.
No idea what this adds to the discussion, but I love this song!
Please don't do the things you do .....
When is the final please?
I have no issue with the way people vote, that’s their choice, but discuss elsewhere.
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2438642/the-final-3-who-did-you-for
I think in reality for a show like this, the final two shoot out would leave Matt exposed to the anti vote he has.
But if the votes are cumulatively built up over 24 hours, would there be enough to offset any lead he has?
Still can’t see past Jill
Why Hancock rather than anybody else, what makes him the ‘celebrity’ as the programme title suggests?
A footballer?
The footballer is famous for winning the Euro’s, the singer is famous for getting number one in the hit parade, Hancock is famous for presiding over, profiting from, and causing the deaths of thousands.
People are entitled to say the footballer is crap in the way they play, or the singer is boring in the way they sing, and similarly they are entitled to say the politician is a foul, mendacious, evil person in the way they politicise.
The other criticism of Hancock turning his ‘celebrity’ into light entertainment is that he is paid out of the public purse to serve his constituents, which he isn’t doing whilst ‘entertaining’ the nation. Instead he is pocketing a pretty penny doing this crappy second job.
If folk only want to focus on the way Hancock is doing this second job then fine, but it is also valid to focus on what supposedly makes him the ‘celebrity’ in the first place.
Haven't seen any of that. Have only seen one person keep repeating themselves ad infinitum and being asked to stop.
But now we have the world champion of repeating himself launching himself into battle ......
ME14 has been doing that, but the bullying is describing what she is doing as a ‘vendetta’ or other such terms, rather than as a person raising valid points.
So yes, it has been bullying by a group of people against one individual. I would imagine ME14 can (and indeed has) withstand the bullying and her persistence and consistency is something I admire.
Head Arbiter has spoken and has dictated two points –
- Hancock is not to be referred to as a celebrity.
- Anyone who disagrees with ME14 (who's views happen to align with his) is a bully.
- The introduction of Quorn Kangaroo vegina can wait for later date.
At least the threads got interesting again.
If you are referencing me then I do not arbitrate over anything.
Like you and others I express my point of view.
I disagree with ME14 over tons and tons of stuff, our views certainly don’t align.
Hancock can be referred to as a celebrity as much as you like, but as a consequence his celebrity status is entitled to be questioned and criticised isn’t it?
You’ve got me on your final point, as a vegetarian I don’t see what’s entertaining watching people turn their stomachs into graveyards for decomposing once living creatures.
His music is ultimately rather boring and insipid, and his criminality in attacking Andun Carlson was proven and he was punished.
If that behaviour makes him a celebrity then he can be compared to Hancock in the poor decision to make nasty people part of light entertainment.
See also Rolf Harris and others.
Did you read the links I posted yesterday regarding the court case and the lies that Matt Hancock told?
I find it incredibly sad that so many are now voting for this man, who has had a very unsavoury career. If he does win then I hope that he faces much greater scrutiny of his actions, which he surely will during the Covid inquiry.
But there's something about reading this thread that is making me want to vote for him now.