This is a good start. Chuks plus another will be good for us. He’s not fit enough to be our marquee striker signing for this window. Especially as he’s sort of proven that while he’s a bit too good for League One he’s not quite good enough for the Championship
It shouldn't be hindsight though, it's a history going back quite a long time now of our club having absolutely dreadful self scouting. I'm sure Aneke was going to go to Birmingham for a chance of Champ football over whatever we offered regardless, but he should have been under contract before he started becoming one of League One's top scorers rather than waiting to see how he turned out, and then offering him a contract late on in the season.
It's consistently happened in the past going back to players like Poyet where we seemed to be surprised that players we've brought in actually perform, and reactively try and keep them when they are in the shop window and attracting interest elsewhere when they have the full player power to then leave in 6 months time.
Why did Bowyer let him go ? As far as we know he was a 45 minute a game once a week player who needed nursing. If he was 90 mins and 2 games a week Bowyer wouldn't let him go.
This is so odd.
In the summer he had several options it was rumoured. Now he has only us?
Did he have a medical ?
Yes - the same doctor who issued Djokovic with his positive test result.
Quite pleased if this goes ahead….there’s no doubting that if he can repeat his previous form with us, he’ll be a very good addition. Just one thing though, will we ever actually get to see him on the pitch for a full 90 mins?
I don’t care if it is a bad bit of business. In any case, it was his decision to leave in the first place and Birmingham are probably out of pocket too. Bottom line is he can come of the bench and turn a game, which is what we need right now.
Mixed feelings about this one, given Chuks' fitness record and the wage increase he'll have picked up at Birmingham. Maybe the latter have done a deal with him in relation to his signing on fee, which will have been payable in stages over the life of the two-year contract.
On his day, League 1 defences can't cope with Chuks but it's more of a gamble than most transfers, given that he only managed to start 11 games for us in 2020/21 and only completed 90 minutes on a few occasions. Maybe Charlton have built - or tried to build - some element of appearance weighting into the salary package, although that might be a difficult sell for the player and his agent.
To his credit, the guy wants to play football and fingers crossed that his second coming is a success.
Everyone seems to be thinking that he will be used as an "impact" sub. Say he's not happy with that & has come here to start every game. He might get pissed off & be gone (again) come the summer.
If he thinks his body can take starting every game then he should start every game. I don't get the point you are making.
The point I'm trying to make is that everyone on here has him starting on the bench & coming on to replace Stockley (or AN Other) but not as part of the starting 11. Not sure he will want that otherwise he could have stayed at Birmingham (and got more money for doing so). So I'd assume we've given him some assurances that he will be starting & not doing a Kirk.
i think its Chucks who dictates how much he plays, not the other way round - it would be great if he were willing to play 90 minutes
He’s a beast at this level, scores goals and knows the club.
Downside is his fitness, it’s important Stockley gets back and stays fit so we’re not overplaying Chuks.
I’d feel more comfortable if we bring in another striker but we’ll need to find a club willing to buy or loan one of our squad players. On the squad cap JFC and Aneke replace Arter and Schwartz so there’s no more room until someone goes unless they’re u21.
Where did the £300k figure come from? Seems many are assuming it’s accurate. Is it? If it is, is it a single payment or including clauses?
I don't think we should get that hung up on deciding if we think signings are (in our opinion) good or bad business decisions. We should just be happy if we think a player will improve us.....and Chucks will - assuming his fitness levels permit.
After all, I think we would all likely agree that TS buying the club without the real estate assets is probably pretty bad business - but the vast majority of us will be very grateful that he went ahead anyway.
If true wrong move imho, get a decent fit striker not another injury prone player. For Christ sake don’t we learn from our continued mistakes over and over again and again.
I’m amazed he can still only manage sub appearances. Having said that I’m happy he’s back. In this league he can make a difference even from the bench. Sadly the difference is too big this season. I still think we need another striker.
Bit of a gamble fitness wise, but given how much we miss Stockley as the big player up top, Aneke is well worth a punt. £300k isn’t a lot of money. He’s a player that knows the club and won’t have problems settling.
The problem though is if Stockley is out for a number of months then Chuks has to start all of those games, the question is can he? I'm not sure we ever got an answer to what the issue is/was with him but the Birmingham move hasn't answered them.
Total lack of any informed comment on Chuks actual performances at Brum, including his injury record. I was looking from time to time just on the Brum results page and he didnt get many minutes- but he was nearly always on the bench when I looked - so he wasn’t injured.
I always thought that if he is somehow endemically prone to injuries (as some people, from behind the safety of their keyboards, tell Ryan Inniss) then it was an odd move for Bowyer to take him to Brum. Imagine the pelters Bow would have got from that lot if he’d gone there and got injured soon, or often.
I can’t believe we are just winging it on his fitness, any more than Bow winged it when he took him with him.
I dont do other fans’ forums, but hopefully someone (without a prior agenda, ideally) could go take a look.
if the payment of £300k is to in some way balance out the wages then it's unfortunate we didn't just make him a better offer in the summer but if we are paying brum 300K and taking on wages we weren't prepared to offer him in the summer then we need to look at what we are doing and whos doing it
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It's consistently happened in the past going back to players like Poyet where we seemed to be surprised that players we've brought in actually perform, and reactively try and keep them when they are in the shop window and attracting interest elsewhere when they have the full player power to then leave in 6 months time.
Yes - the same doctor who issued Djokovic with his positive test result.
Just one thing though, will we ever actually get to see him on the pitch for a full 90 mins?
I look forward to him trying his luck at Birmingham and us buying him back for £300k this time next year.
On his day, League 1 defences can't cope with Chuks but it's more of a gamble than most transfers, given that he only managed to start 11 games for us in 2020/21 and only completed 90 minutes on a few occasions. Maybe Charlton have built - or tried to build - some element of appearance weighting into the salary package, although that might be a difficult sell for the player and his agent.
To his credit, the guy wants to play football and fingers crossed that his second coming is a success.
Downside is his fitness, it’s important Stockley gets back and stays fit so we’re not overplaying Chuks.
I’d feel more comfortable if we bring in another striker but we’ll need to find a club willing to buy or loan one of our squad players. On the squad cap JFC and Aneke replace Arter and Schwartz so there’s no more room until someone goes unless they’re u21.
Where did the £300k figure come from? Seems many are assuming it’s accurate. Is it? If it is, is it a single payment or including clauses?
We should just be happy if we think a player will improve us.....and Chucks will - assuming his fitness levels permit.
After all, I think we would all likely agree that TS buying the club without the real estate assets is probably pretty bad business - but the vast majority of us will be very grateful that he went ahead anyway.
as for fitness, how many games has he missed this season?
I can’t believe we are just winging it on his fitness, any more than Bow winged it when he took him with him.