Unsurprisingly, Curbs thought we need to sort our defence out for next season if we want to challenge.
He said that despite having been an attacking player he was a defensively minded coach.
Clearly didn't want to be too critical but said in his day the team had plans on how to defend eg Luke Young or Chris Powell would, on the halfway line, show opponents inside so "into traffic" but he doesn't see plans like that in our defending. Also said his advice to young managers who have asked him for advice is to try and have a consistent side, not constant changes.
Feels there are goals with Stockley, Aneke and Washington (if he stays or we get better) but we can't expect to challenge when we let so many in at home.
Said he started watching us again under Bowyer and felt we had a really good side until the crooks ruined it. He isn't a fan of Southall/Amis etc.
He looks very well and is clearly enjoying life. Would love to think that behind the scenes he's giving Jacko some advice and is a sounding board
He does look well, very at ease with himself and enjoying life.
He doesn't know Jacko and isn't advising him at present although he'd be happy to.
He made a wider point in his role at the League Managers Association (LMA) that he felt younger managers would benefit from having an older, wiser head to speak to (he cited Lennie at Newport etc) but realised that the older man might be seen as a threat (after his job) or as a sign of weakness in the younger manager in the eyes of the owner.
He quoted a LMA stat that 60% of first time managers don't get another management role.
Got to go to the museum but will post more later if anyone is interested but a lot of stories are a bit edgy and won't sound as good as when Curbs tells them eg Tarricco's broken nose, di canino and the ice bath.
He looks very well and is clearly enjoying life. Would love to think that behind the scenes he's giving Jacko some advice and is a sounding board
He does look well, very at ease with himself and enjoying life.
He doesn't know Jacko and isn't advising him at present although he'd be happy to.
He made a wider point in his role at the League Managers Association (LMA) that he felt younger managers would benefit from having an older, wiser head to speak to (he cited Lennie at Newport etc) but realised that the older man might be seen as a threat (after his job) or as a sign of weakness in the younger manager in the eyes of the owner.
He quoted a LMA stat that 60% of first time managers don't get another management role.
Got to go to the museum but will post more later if anyone is interested but a lot of stories are a bit edgy and won't sound as good as when Curbs tells them eg Tarricco's broken nose, di canino and the ice bath.
I would have preferred Jacko to have a Lennie style older manager in his team also, someone who's been there and done it, and isn't after the main job
Pardew brought Keith Peacock to West Ham in 2006 after he left Charlton to have that sort of role also.
Indeed didn't Curbs briefly work at Fulham, long after he left West Ham?
Great evening, thank you to all who organised it. So many great stories, was like over 2 hours of Charlton TV chat without the football to put a dampener on things. I too was shocked at the 60% of football managers not getting another job after their first appointment, Curbs linked that to Bowyer having done well to get a second job and the likelihood of Jackson not getting another job if he loses this one. I think Curbs was erring on the side of Jackson remaining in post. He seemed a big fan of Bowyer and would have happily come in to help him if asked. Thanks again to all the organisers.
He looks very well and is clearly enjoying life. Would love to think that behind the scenes he's giving Jacko some advice and is a sounding board
He does look well, very at ease with himself and enjoying life.
He doesn't know Jacko and isn't advising him at present although he'd be happy to.
He made a wider point in his role at the League Managers Association (LMA) that he felt younger managers would benefit from having an older, wiser head to speak to (he cited Lennie at Newport etc) but realised that the older man might be seen as a threat (after his job) or as a sign of weakness in the younger manager in the eyes of the owner.
He quoted a LMA stat that 60% of first time managers don't get another management role.
Got to go to the museum but will post more later if anyone is interested but a lot of stories are a bit edgy and won't sound as good as when Curbs tells them eg Tarricco's broken nose, di canino and the ice bath.
What a brilliant night with an absolute club legend, thank you guys for organising.
Even had a disco going on downstairs , what more could you ask for!
Alan talks so much sense and you can see why he was successful , could really do with his input into the club in some form , rather than increasing his heart rate commenting on us on Charlton Tv!
A superb evening with Curbs at his best. Well done for organising chaps. Really wish he had more of an input within the club. He was ready to assist Bow if he had been asked, but as he doesn't really know JJ sensed a little reticence. I asked he he thought the club would have given him extra money if we had gotten into Europe (the season we finished seventh and Parker left), but he doubted he would have been given additional funds.
I take it you have passed my email, looking forward to the night.
Only because its free
We do pass a glass around
Bring it over and I'll give you a fiver. Get Sir John Humphrey along and I'll throw in a brown one. This glass suggests strippers are on the agenda. Is that the half-time break entertainment?
I was surprised how much of a cheery, fun guy Curbs is. He generally comes across as a serious person (understandably), but he was a good laugh and told some great stories.
I could sit there and listen to him talk all day long and not get bored. Such a knowledgeable, engaging, down to earth, lovely bloke. I couldn't speak more highly of him, based on last night and I'm confident if he was manager he would have us promoted next season. He was so engaging I've still got a smile on my face this morning.
Does anyone have contact with JJ? He really should spend some time talking to Curbs.
I never realised how instrumental he was in the signing of players.
He told us about how he "intercepted" Claus Jensen on his way to Ipswich to sign him. How he snapped up Di Canio, going round to his house unannounced and Jorge Costa.
I was surprised how much of a cheery, fun guy Curbs is. He generally comes across as a serious person (understandably), but he was a good laugh and told some great stories.
I could sit there and listen to him talk all day long and not get bored. Such a knowledgeable, engaging, down to earth, lovely bloke. I couldn't speak more highly of him, based on last night and I'm confident if he was manager he would have us promoted next season. He was so engaging I've still got a smile on my face this morning.
Does anyone have contact with JJ? He really should spend some time talking to Curbs.
All JJ has to do is look at the east stand and think.... perhaps that bloke may know a thing or 2 about football management!
Costa's first game was against Chelsea. Costa used an interpreter. Curbs was trying to explain to Costa, how to stop Hasselbaink. Costa just winked at Curbs and said don't worry boss, then had him in his pocket all game. We won 0-1.
I never realised how instrumental he was in the signing of players.
He told us about how he "intercepted" Claus Jensen on his way to Ipswich to sign him. How he snapped up Di Canio, going round to his house unannounced and Jorge Costa.
I was surprised how much of a cheery, fun guy Curbs is. He generally comes across as a serious person (understandably), but he was a good laugh and told some great stories.
I could sit there and listen to him talk all day long and not get bored. Such a knowledgeable, engaging, down to earth, lovely bloke. I couldn't speak more highly of him, based on last night and I'm confident if he was manager he would have us promoted next season. He was so engaging I've still got a smile on my face this morning.
Does anyone have contact with JJ? He really should spend some time talking to Curbs.
All JJ has to do is look at the east stand and think.... perhaps that bloke may know a thing or 2 about football management!
I know times have changed, but the guys a legend, Jacko would be nuts not to pick his brains whilst Curbs still loves and shows an interest in Charlton, I think Curbs is waiting to be asked.
He looks very well and is clearly enjoying life. Would love to think that behind the scenes he's giving Jacko some advice and is a sounding board
He does look well, very at ease with himself and enjoying life.
He doesn't know Jacko and isn't advising him at present although he'd be happy to.
He made a wider point in his role at the League Managers Association (LMA) that he felt younger managers would benefit from having an older, wiser head to speak to (he cited Lennie at Newport etc) but realised that the older man might be seen as a threat (after his job) or as a sign of weakness in the younger manager in the eyes of the owner.
He quoted a LMA stat that 60% of first time managers don't get another management role.
Got to go to the museum but will post more later if anyone is interested but a lot of stories are a bit edgy and won't sound as good as when Curbs tells them eg Tarricco's broken nose, di canino and the ice bath.
It's good to read about people enjoying this and that it was a decent night.
I like how curbs didn't repetitively dive back into football management at every possible opportunity.
He put himself and his family 1st. He knew it was an unnecessary car crash life style and decided he'd had enough.
Another reason why he is and was a loyal Charlton ledgend
Not so.
As he said he tried to get back but the West Ham case took a year, he was offered Championship roles he didn't want and then turned down a "far away" prem job expecting to get a closer one which then didn't materialise.
By the he had been out too long in the eyes of some owners/CEOs.
Personally I think suing his employers didn't help.
He mentioned that WHUs Icelandic owners were being chased by Icelandic banks as the financial crash hit, something I'd not realised.
He wasn't that bothered about them selling Anton Ferdinad but was with George McCarthy.
For @aliwibble the story from old players on CharltonTV that surprised him most was when Brownie was sent off on a stretcher and left the ground wearing a special injury boot. Later than evening he was out drinking with players minus the boot. Brownie told us a few months ago that he was sent an invoice by Peter Varney for the cost of the merchandising brochures thrown on the pitch. As a joke which Brown got unlike John Robinson who got a "fine" for scoring a goal and taking off his shirt to reveal a Nike (not our kit supplier) vest.
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He said that despite having been an attacking player he was a defensively minded coach.
Clearly didn't want to be too critical but said in his day the team had plans on how to defend eg Luke Young or Chris Powell would, on the halfway line, show opponents inside so "into traffic" but he doesn't see plans like that in our defending. Also said his advice to young managers who have asked him for advice is to try and have a consistent side, not constant changes.
Feels there are goals with Stockley, Aneke and Washington (if he stays or we get better) but we can't expect to challenge when we let so many in at home.
Said he started watching us again under Bowyer and felt we had a really good side until the crooks ruined it. He isn't a fan of Southall/Amis etc.
He swears more in person than on TV.
He doesn't know Jacko and isn't advising him at present although he'd be happy to.
He made a wider point in his role at the League Managers Association (LMA) that he felt younger managers would benefit from having an older, wiser head to speak to (he cited Lennie at Newport etc) but realised that the older man might be seen as a threat (after his job) or as a sign of weakness in the younger manager in the eyes of the owner.
He quoted a LMA stat that 60% of first time managers don't get another management role.
Got to go to the museum but will post more later if anyone is interested but a lot of stories are a bit edgy and won't sound as good as when Curbs tells them eg Tarricco's broken nose, di canino and the ice bath.
Pardew brought Keith Peacock to West Ham in 2006 after he left Charlton to have that sort of role also.
Indeed didn't Curbs briefly work at Fulham, long after he left West Ham?
So many great stories, was like over 2 hours of Charlton TV chat without the football to put a dampener on things.
I too was shocked at the 60% of football managers not getting another job after their first appointment, Curbs linked that to Bowyer having done well to get a second job and the likelihood of Jackson not getting another job if he loses this one. I think Curbs was erring on the side of Jackson remaining in post.
He seemed a big fan of Bowyer and would have happily come in to help him if asked.
Thanks again to all the organisers.
edit: that makes it sound a bit weird, that I like the idea of Di Canio in hot pants….to clarify, I liked the way Curbs told the story!
Even had a disco going on downstairs , what more could you ask for!
Alan talks so much sense and you can see why he was successful , could really do with his input into the club in some form , rather than increasing his heart rate commenting on us on Charlton Tv!
I asked he he thought the club would have given him extra money if we had gotten into Europe (the season we finished seventh and Parker left), but he doubted he would have been given additional funds.
I like how curbs didn't repetitively dive back into football management at every possible opportunity.
He put himself and his family 1st. He knew it was an unnecessary car crash life style and decided he'd had enough.
Another reason why he is and was a loyal Charlton ledgend
He generally comes across as a serious person (understandably), but he was a good laugh and told some great stories.
I could sit there and listen to him talk all day long and not get bored.
Such a knowledgeable, engaging, down to earth, lovely bloke.
I couldn't speak more highly of him, based on last night and I'm confident if he was manager he would have us promoted next season.
He was so engaging I've still got a smile on my face this morning.
Does anyone have contact with JJ?
He really should spend some time talking to Curbs.
He told us about how he "intercepted" Claus Jensen on his way to Ipswich to sign him.
How he snapped up Di Canio, going round to his house unannounced and Jorge Costa.
By God we owe him for our "great" days.
after closer inspection of the £5
Curbs showed him a Varney "produced" video of the history of Charlton.
Just wish he was more involved and in an official capacity as I'd have confidence we had a modicum of direction on and off the pitch.
Must look at us now in a similar way Ferguson looks at United.
All JJ has to do is look at the east stand and think.... perhaps that bloke may know a thing or 2 about football management!
Costa used an interpreter.
Curbs was trying to explain to Costa, how to stop Hasselbaink.
Costa just winked at Curbs and said don't worry boss, then had him in his pocket all game.
We won 0-1.
Right to left
Alright mate....
that young fish Costa fortune pal' I want my money back
As he said he tried to get back but the West Ham case took a year, he was offered Championship roles he didn't want and then turned down a "far away" prem job expecting to get a closer one which then didn't materialise.
By the he had been out too long in the eyes of some owners/CEOs.
Personally I think suing his employers didn't help.
He mentioned that WHUs Icelandic owners were being chased by Icelandic banks as the financial crash hit, something I'd not realised.
He wasn't that bothered about them selling Anton Ferdinad but was with George McCarthy.
For @aliwibble the story from old players on CharltonTV that surprised him most was when Brownie was sent off on a stretcher and left the ground wearing a special injury boot. Later than evening he was out drinking with players minus the boot. Brownie told us a few months ago that he was sent an invoice by Peter Varney for the cost of the merchandising brochures thrown on the pitch. As a joke which Brown got unlike John Robinson who got a "fine" for scoring a goal and taking off his shirt to reveal a Nike (not our kit supplier) vest.