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Jon De Souza appointed as Men's First-Team Development Coach
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We're hiring someone who's last job was at a failing league 2 club who's fans hated him.Todds_right_hook said:
What is there to be negative about? Is he better qualified and experienced than the last guy to have a similar role at the club.....grant baseyDubaiCAFC said:
I am not sure what is to be positive about?ElliotCAFC said:Christ we’re a miserable and negative fan base these days
who would you have appointed?0 -
Personally I think that is role of someone that has come through the academy, understands what young players have been through mentally.Todds_right_hook said:
What is there to be negative about? Is he better qualified and experienced than the last guy to have a similar role at the club.....grant baseyDubaiCAFC said:
I am not sure what is to be positive about?ElliotCAFC said:Christ we’re a miserable and negative fan base these days
who would you have appointed?
We are employing people on the cheap..0 -
In fairness he has a lot of experience working in academy footballDubaiCAFC said:
Personally I think that is role of someone that has come through the academy, understands what young players have been through mentally.Todds_right_hook said:
What is there to be negative about? Is he better qualified and experienced than the last guy to have a similar role at the club.....grant baseyDubaiCAFC said:
I am not sure what is to be positive about?ElliotCAFC said:Christ we’re a miserable and negative fan base these days
who would you have appointed?
We are employing people on the cheap..0 -
May I buck the trend and say welcome Jon, and wish you every success at CAFC.
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I suspect not one of us has a clue how good a coach he is or not, or his suitably for the role remit, so I find the instant dismissing a bit negatively reactive.Would be far more interested in understanding what input JJ had with this22
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But he hasn't been through the system.. I think that is a key factor of this role, the transition in to the first team, it is mentally challenging!Scoham said:
In fairness he has a lot of experience working in academy footballDubaiCAFC said:
Personally I think that is role of someone that has come through the academy, understands what young players have been through mentally.Todds_right_hook said:
What is there to be negative about? Is he better qualified and experienced than the last guy to have a similar role at the club.....grant baseyDubaiCAFC said:
I am not sure what is to be positive about?ElliotCAFC said:Christ we’re a miserable and negative fan base these days
who would you have appointed?
We are employing people on the cheap..
Maybe it is to early to judge, but all the appointments so far look to me like they are employed on the cheap1 -
I too am getting sick of the negativity on here, this tweet totally disregards Martins really powerful shot ffsScoham said:DubaiCAFC said:All the appointments so far, scream to me that they are not willing to pay a decent salary.. Or is it, that we are just simply struggling to attract people!28 -
Recent appointments yes but Adkins, Roddy and Mumford not so much.DubaiCAFC said:
But he hasn't been through the system.. I think that is a key factor of this role, the transition in to the first team, it is mentally challenging!Scoham said:
In fairness he has a lot of experience working in academy footballDubaiCAFC said:
Personally I think that is role of someone that has come through the academy, understands what young players have been through mentally.Todds_right_hook said:
What is there to be negative about? Is he better qualified and experienced than the last guy to have a similar role at the club.....grant baseyDubaiCAFC said:
I am not sure what is to be positive about?ElliotCAFC said:Christ we’re a miserable and negative fan base these days
who would you have appointed?
We are employing people on the cheap..
Maybe it is to early to judge, but all the appointments so far look to me like they are employed on the cheap
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most of his experience has been with youth squads, his recent short spell as a D O F with a L2 outfit seems not to have gone well .. what do Sandy or his advisers see in him to justify such a vital role with our senior squad ?2
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I've been a big fan of Sandgaard from the start, some people play a role they don't expect in the grand scheme of things and I'm just wondering if Sandgaards role for us was to steady the ship and move on. That tweet speaks volumes about the decisions that Sandgaard makes when appointing these people in the club. Roddy was his first failure, the advice on recruitment was his second, Adkins his third, Skiverton with no noticable improvement to our defence and as others metioned, from Yeovil. Then we sign Dangermouse from 'Maldon & Tiptree' and now De Souza from Cheltenham - if you want their review on their ex-coach, check out the replies to Charlton's tweet, most of Colchester laughing at us now.
It's one thing to be pro/anti Sandgaard without nuance, but what sanity goes into these decisions? Yes Ron & Jon are both ex-Brentford but surely if they were competent in their roles they wouldn't be working in the 4th football league and below. None of Sandgaards personnel choices have even the slightest slither of ambition about them. Genuinely starting to worry that next season will be the same or worse as this one.9 -
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Wasn't Baseys role to integrate youth players into the first team set up. Isn't that what this guys role is?
This isnt an individual dig at you but a comment on the thought process of our larger fan base. I don't get the negativity on this appointment just because he has worked for Colchester, if doesn't automatically make him a poor appointment. Kinsella previously worked for Colchester!!
om keeping an open mind until curbs, minto and guest question this on Charlton tv!
skiverton is a bad appointment because we got him from Yeovil! Skiverton managed and coached Yeovil in league 1 which gives him similar experience to Jackson and euell at this level.We are a lower league club making lower league appointments. What and whom do people expect we appoint. Over the last few years, reading names like wilder and Howe are laughable. Some of our supporters Probably believer we should go for dyche.9 -
He was Director of Performance at a club who have underperformed since he took the role, last season finished 20th in league 2 and this season are 19th, and last week they sacked him.Todds_right_hook said:
What is there to be negative about? Is he better qualified and experienced than the last guy to have a similar role at the club.....grant baseyDubaiCAFC said:
I am not sure what is to be positive about?ElliotCAFC said:Christ we’re a miserable and negative fan base these days
who would you have appointed?
Does that say 'this is a good appointment' to you?2 -
Speaking for myself, when someones apparent ambition is Premier League within 5 years (even if that 5 year period started from now) you will not achieve that with cheap cast offs from Yeovil and Colchester.Todds_right_hook said:Wasn't Basel's role to integrate youth players into the first team set up. Isn't that what this guys role is?
This isnt an individual dig at you but a comment on the thought process of our larger fan base. I don't get the negativity on this appointment just because he has worked for Colchester, if doesn't automatically make him a poor appointment. Kinsella previously worked for Colchester!!
om keeping an open mind until curbs, minto and guest question this on Charlton tv!
skiverton is a bad appointment because we got him from Yeovil! Skiverton managed and coached Yeovil in league 1 which gives him similar experience to Jackson and euell at this level.We are a lower league club making lower league appointments. What and whom do people expect we appoint. Over the last few years, reading names like wilder and Howe are laughable. Some of our supporters Probably believer we should go for dyche.3 -
You are right, expensive mistakes.. I was more referring to the recent appointments.Scoham said:
Recent appointments yes but Adkins, Roddy and Mumford not so much.DubaiCAFC said:
But he hasn't been through the system.. I think that is a key factor of this role, the transition in to the first team, it is mentally challenging!Scoham said:
In fairness he has a lot of experience working in academy footballDubaiCAFC said:
Personally I think that is role of someone that has come through the academy, understands what young players have been through mentally.Todds_right_hook said:
What is there to be negative about? Is he better qualified and experienced than the last guy to have a similar role at the club.....grant baseyDubaiCAFC said:
I am not sure what is to be positive about?ElliotCAFC said:Christ we’re a miserable and negative fan base these days
who would you have appointed?
We are employing people on the cheap..
Maybe it is to early to judge, but all the appointments so far look to me like they are employed on the cheap
Going to cheap worries me a little, that TS is going to be running on a very tight budget next year, or some truth that he is looking to sell..
Has been a number of whispers for a few weeks that he is looking to sell or forced to sell.. Time will tell I suppose!2 -
Wow people seem to reading way too much in this in my opinion, we've a appointed a player development coach end of14
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Can you expand on that?DubaiCAFC said:
You are right, expensive mistakes.. I was more referring to the recent appointments.Scoham said:
Recent appointments yes but Adkins, Roddy and Mumford not so much.DubaiCAFC said:
But he hasn't been through the system.. I think that is a key factor of this role, the transition in to the first team, it is mentally challenging!Scoham said:
In fairness he has a lot of experience working in academy footballDubaiCAFC said:
Personally I think that is role of someone that has come through the academy, understands what young players have been through mentally.Todds_right_hook said:
What is there to be negative about? Is he better qualified and experienced than the last guy to have a similar role at the club.....grant baseyDubaiCAFC said:
I am not sure what is to be positive about?ElliotCAFC said:Christ we’re a miserable and negative fan base these days
who would you have appointed?
We are employing people on the cheap..
Maybe it is to early to judge, but all the appointments so far look to me like they are employed on the cheap
Going to cheap worries me a little, that TS is going to be running on a very tight budget next year, or some truth that he is looking to sell..
Has been a number of whispers for a few weeks that he is looking to sell or forced to sell.. Time will tell I suppose!3 -
Just heard that he may have to sell, no more detail other than that.. Hence I haven't posted before, and time will tell if it is true or notScoham said:
Can you expand on that?DubaiCAFC said:
You are right, expensive mistakes.. I was more referring to the recent appointments.Scoham said:
Recent appointments yes but Adkins, Roddy and Mumford not so much.DubaiCAFC said:
But he hasn't been through the system.. I think that is a key factor of this role, the transition in to the first team, it is mentally challenging!Scoham said:
In fairness he has a lot of experience working in academy footballDubaiCAFC said:
Personally I think that is role of someone that has come through the academy, understands what young players have been through mentally.Todds_right_hook said:
What is there to be negative about? Is he better qualified and experienced than the last guy to have a similar role at the club.....grant baseyDubaiCAFC said:
I am not sure what is to be positive about?ElliotCAFC said:Christ we’re a miserable and negative fan base these days
who would you have appointed?
We are employing people on the cheap..
Maybe it is to early to judge, but all the appointments so far look to me like they are employed on the cheap
Going to cheap worries me a little, that TS is going to be running on a very tight budget next year, or some truth that he is looking to sell..
Has been a number of whispers for a few weeks that he is looking to sell or forced to sell.. Time will tell I suppose!2 -
So coaches now in from Yeovil and Colchester.
They may be really good coaches but if they are why have they spent years at Yeovil and Colchester?
Are we really getting Premier League ready, as TS tells us?7 -
this was put up 2 days ago on the other site
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Well he's got 1 right so far, so we can't exactly dismiss the other points.FAVADDICK said:this was put up 2 days ago on the other site
De Souza - correct
Jackson to go - ?
Euell to go - ?
TS trying to sell - ?0 -
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Did he pick the team? Colchester have been poor for a few years now.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
He was Director of Performance at a club who have underperformed since he took the role, last season finished 20th in league 2 and this season are 19th, and last week they sacked him.Todds_right_hook said:
What is there to be negative about? Is he better qualified and experienced than the last guy to have a similar role at the club.....grant baseyDubaiCAFC said:
I am not sure what is to be positive about?ElliotCAFC said:Christ we’re a miserable and negative fan base these days
who would you have appointed?
Does that say 'this is a good appointment' to you?Will sacking him now make Colchester good?
the point I'm trying to make is that we know very little about him. 10 years ago, this forum would have been full of welcome messages, now it's just moan moan moan without justification.4 -
Absolutely not on anything I've seen to date.Covered End said:So coaches now in from Yeovil and Colchester.
They may be really good coaches but if they are why have they spent years at Yeovil and Colchester?
Are we really getting Premier League ready, as TS tells us?
Tangible actions over words and soundbites.
Still he likes a pint and a tweet with fans so who gives a monkeys if we don't progress football wise in line with stated objectives.
I expect to be down in this league for the foreseeable and the reality is cutting our cloth accordingly.
That is unless we have a remarkable squad overhaul window and pre season a'la 2011 in the coming weeks which I think is very unlikely if not wholly unrealistic.
Renewed season ticket yesterday but not expecting any different this time next year based on instinct from what I've seen so far and expect.
Hopefully will be wrong but said that last summer too and predicted us to finish 7th...thinking I was being overly pessimistic. Turns out it was wild optimism in retrospect lol3 -
I get your point, and as a one off appointment you'd probably be right, nothing to worry about. But when you look at the bigger picture, TS's son, Skiverton, now this guy, it doesn't exactly scream 'premier league here we come' does it?CH4RLTON said:Wow people seem to reading way too much in this in my opinion, we've a appointed a player development coach end of
I'm not one to overly panic but it smacks of TS trying to do things on the cheap. Which is of course fair enough, it's his prerogative, and if he goes and spends 1m+ on the team in the summer no one will give a shit about these appointments. But i think if RD had made these appointments people would've been kicking off.4 -
I guess we are at least working our way up the footballing pyramid. If we continue like this, we might be able to get a tea lady on loan from Accrington.Scoham said:DubaiCAFC said:All the appointments so far, scream to me that they are not willing to pay a decent salary.. Or is it, that we are just simply struggling to attract people!1 -
Too soon to start another takeover thread??2
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Leaked the team news and ate lots of pies.Cafc43v3r said:
Regardless of Basey's job title what did he actually do? Can't really call him Director of BBC and executive chef.Todds_right_hook said:
What is there to be negative about? Is he better qualified and experienced than the last guy to have a similar role at the club.....grant baseyDubaiCAFC said:
I am not sure what is to be positive about?ElliotCAFC said:Christ we’re a miserable and negative fan base these days
who would you have appointed?
He was in charge of bibs, balls and cones and made Bowyer's brews.5 -
If Gillingham had made those 4 appointments we probably wouldn't bat an eyelid.Scoham said:DubaiCAFC said:All the appointments so far, scream to me that they are not willing to pay a decent salary.. Or is it, that we are just simply struggling to attract people!
Is this where we are now?
I admit I am in the cynical negative group, but I have lost faith.
I wish them well and hope they prove inspired appointments, but it just feels like we are trying to do it all on the cheap2 -
Oh for the days when we used to shop at Aldi!0
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Why the feck are people moaning about the new Club Secretary (Dangermouse etc.)
Why the feck does it matter if he's come from Non-League or the Premier League
Or like I said when he was appointed, are people now trying to pretend as though they know what he does
Our fans are really turning into the Arsenal of League One!!22 -
when this appointment was first mentioned a month or so ago, in an interview with TS, it sounded as if a person had already been appointed and it said that the person had worked at 'the highest level'. Doesn't sound like De Souza to me as he only sacked last week. And some pretty damning comments on that link from Colchester fans. Not rushing to judgement on this but sounds more like we are shopping at Aldi than Waitrose and I don't think these last four appointments are making us 'Premier League ready' more 'National League ready'.3
