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Outlaw Vocal fry

LennyLowrentLennyLowrent
in Not Sports Related
The subconscious action of lowering speech tone below vocal range, usually to convey a message lucking in conviction due to its gutless conforming nature (very popular in management speak) resulting in gravelly asbestos sounding inaudible shite.
Such an epidemic, it's tragic.
I'm in therapy...
But you!!! 
What do you think..?
Recommission the guillotines? ??


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  • Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    Nope, no idea at all
  • InspectorSandsInspectorSands
    is this a reference to the Nirvana performance of Smells Like Teen Spirit on Top of the Pops when Kurt Cobain sung in a baritone, as recently repeated on BBC4?
  • ChizzChizz
    It's mildly irritating.  But vocal speech patterns change over time.  I imagine it will dissipate soon, only to be replaced by something even more grating. 
  • Big_Bad_WorldBig_Bad_World
    Sounds like someone mumbled something under their breath and this is the fallout from not being told what was said.
  • Covered EndCovered End
    Best wishes with the therapy.
  • Six-a-bag-of-nutsSix-a-bag-of-nuts
    Was it a Clint Eastwood movie?
  • LennyLowrentLennyLowrent
    Up there with upspeak
  • LeuthLeuth
    Sounds like someone needs some doom-metal aversion therapy 
  • bobmunrobobmunro
    Well,                                                                                    !

    There, I've said it.
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  • StigStig
    I believe that "lowering speech tone below vocal range" is a logical impossibility; if it's below vocal range, then it ain't speech. Therefore whatever this thing is that you're talking about, it doesn't exist.
  • LennyLowrentLennyLowrent
    Stig said:
    I believe that "lowering speech tone below vocal range" is a logical impossibility; if it's below vocal range, then it ain't speech. Therefore whatever this thing is that you're talking about, it doesn't exist.
    For existence stay tuned
  • AddicksAddictAddicksAddict
    LennyLowrent said:
    The subconscious action of lowering speech tone below vocal range, usually to convey a message lucking in conviction due to its gutless conforming nature (very popular in management speak) resulting in gravelly asbestos sounding inaudible shite.
    Such an epidemic, it's tragic.
    I'm in therapy...
    But you!!! 
    What do you think..?
    Recommission the guillotines? ??


    Que?
  • SporadicAddickSporadicAddick
    edited May 2022
    I think we've been here before...

    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/92903/skins-vs-shirts#latest
  • LennyLowrentLennyLowrent
    SporadicAddick said:
    I think we've been here before...

    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/92903/skins-vs-shirts#latest
    Which reminds me...
  • lolwraylolwray
    Barry shouting from the touchline? 

    Is it a clue from dusty bin ? 
  • Siv_in_NorfolkSiv_in_Norfolk
    Lollards?
  • LincsaddickLincsaddick
    is this referring to Tom Waits ?
  • RaplhMilneRaplhMilne
    LennyLowrent said:
    The subconscious action of lowering speech tone below vocal range, usually to convey a message lucking in conviction due to its gutless conforming nature (very popular in management speak) resulting in gravelly asbestos sounding inaudible shite.
    Such an epidemic, it's tragic.
    I'm in therapy...
    But you!!! 
    What do you think..?
    Recommission the guillotines? ??


    Nah,…. It’s gone over my head….. 
  • CallumcafcCallumcafc
    edited May 2022
    Good analogy in the comments of this video… it’s the vocal equivalent of dragging your feet. 

    Most famous person guilty of vocal fry? Probably Kim Kardashian…

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  • Raith_C_ChattonellRaith_C_Chattonell
    I noticed this a few years ago, primarily with young American actresses. 

    I'm not sure what they're trying to achieve, it doesn't sound natural or cool.  I have to switch to sub titles - which admittedly isn't natural or cool either.  :/
  • LennyLowrentLennyLowrent
    Callumcafc said:
    Good analogy in the comments of this video… it’s the vocal equivalent of dragging your feet. 

    Most famous person guilty of vocal fry? Probably Kim Kardashian…

    Excellent analogy,  and that is why Louis Armstrong and Tom Waits are definitely not in that category. They both don't go below their range, and whatever you think of them, they are not hiding or dragging their feet.
    Some people have gravely voice. I actually like it. But vocal fry reeks of all the ills of post Industrial revolution humanity.

    And gyms too...
  • SolidgoneSolidgone
    Lee Marvin would be turning in his grave!
  • JiMMy 85JiMMy 85
    I used to work with a woman who did this loads. You knew she was bullshitting as soon as it started. She was a person who bullshitted all the way through her work as far as I could tell. Never gave us anything to work with. Just croaky words.

    Last time I saw her on LinkedIn, she had risen to head of PR for one of the biggest organisations in the UK. 
  • JiMMy 85JiMMy 85
    Also... 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8PoIixzsKo
  • StigStig
    Solidgone said:
    Lee Marvin would be turning in his grave!
    I read that as turning in his gravel
  • Leroy AmbroseLeroy Ambrose
    You want to hear a vocal fry? This is a vocal fry... 

    https://youtu.be/vVDXTFeGYwc
  • StigStig
    Nah, this is vocal Fry:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNEdxZURTaI
  • LennyLowrentLennyLowrent
    Listen to the ending of every sentence.
    A message with no messenger...
    I am sure that when Hannah Arendt came out with the Phrase:  'The Banality of Evil' this is what she had in mind.

    Never mind Eichmann...


    https://youtu.be/AWdDzrHq8c0
  • Leroy AmbroseLeroy Ambrose
    edited May 2022
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