why would Harris be what we need, sacked at millwall after a good initial spell, sound familiar??relegated in the end with Gills, just what we need. Let’s not forget Millwall legend. He’s not that good it can be over looked surely.
"Harris then again took over as caretaker boss on 10 March 2015, when Holloway was sacked.[22] By the time Harris took over,Millwall were already virtually, whilst not mathematically, relegated, however Harris went on to win 2 and draw 4 of his 9 games in charge, almost keeping the Lions in the Championship. On 28 April, the Lions were officially relegated to League One following Rotherham United's 2–1 win against Reading,[23] however, Harris was confirmed as Millwall's permanent manager less than 24 hours later,[24] with his assistant being his 2004 FA Cup Final teammate, David Livermore.
In his first full season as manager Harris led Millwall to the League One Play-Off Final against Barnsley at Wembley after finishing 4th in the League One table and overcoming Bradford City 4–2 on aggregate in the Play – Off Semi-Finals. The Lions lost the play-off final 3–1 to Barnsley.
In 2016–17 season Harris again led Millwall to Wembley after they finished 6th in the League One table and overcame Scunthorpe United 3–2 in the Play-Off semi finals. Millwall won the play-off Final against Bradford City 1–0 to win promotion to the Championship. He also led Millwall to the F.A Cup quarter finals after knocking out 3 Premier League teams Bournemouth, Watford and Premier League Champions Leicester City before losing 6–0 against Tottenham Hotspur in the quarter finals."
Not mentioned is the 8th placed finish during his first season in the Championship. Plenty above to suggest he may be just what you're looking for.
why would Harris be what we need, sacked at millwall after a good initial spell, sound familiar??relegated in the end with Gills, just what we need. Let’s not forget Millwall legend. He’s not that good it can be over looked surely.
"Harris then again took over as caretaker boss on 10 March 2015, when Holloway was sacked.[22] By the time Harris took over,Millwall were already virtually, whilst not mathematically, relegated, however Harris went on to win 2 and draw 4 of his 9 games in charge, almost keeping the Lions in the Championship. On 28 April, the Lions were officially relegated to League One following Rotherham United's 2–1 win against Reading,[23] however, Harris was confirmed as Millwall's permanent manager less than 24 hours later,[24] with his assistant being his 2004 FA Cup Final teammate, David Livermore.
In his first full season as manager Harris led Millwall to the League One Play-Off Final against Barnsley at Wembley after finishing 4th in the League One table and overcoming Bradford City 4–2 on aggregate in the Play – Off Semi-Finals. The Lions lost the play-off final 3–1 to Barnsley.
In 2016–17 season Harris again led Millwall to Wembley after they finished 6th in the League One table and overcame Scunthorpe United 3–2 in the Play-Off semi finals. Millwall won the play-off Final against Bradford City 1–0 to win promotion to the Championship. He also led Millwall to the F.A Cup quarter finals after knocking out 3 Premier League teams Bournemouth, Watford and Premier League Champions Leicester City before losing 6–0 against Tottenham Hotspur in the quarter finals."
Not mentioned is the 8th placed finish during his first season in the Championship. Plenty above to suggest he may be just what you're looking for.
Sums up exactly where we are right now. ’Probably’ happy with a one dimensional hoofball merchant who is a Millwall legend.
He'd love Stockley and Stockley would love him. Get a striker in to run the channels like Gregory used to do for us (Morison did before his legs went all JJ) and the job's a good un
Bielsa- if he can get our players to run around like that it would be a miracle.Also he likes to live in the community and I notice the Seabay Fish and chip shop has been vacant.
My sad self would often visit the Forest forum when he was manager there to see how our old friend Lyle was getting on - and I would often read the same criticisms of him that JJ was getting here.
Obvious has more of a successful body of work to look back on than JJ. But does appear to be a little hit and miss. Makes me think that a lot of things have to align for most managers to be semi successful.
Despite what he has said about the appointment being quick or slow - he will already have a short list of probably 1 ! - because he’s not going to risk appointing a manager just before pre season who then blames player recruitment for failure. I’d be surprised if we don’t get a foreign manager
I’m not totally opposed to the ‘manager doesn’t pick the players’ culture if the ownership is going all in on it, rather than flip flopping based on the latest trends. It’s exactly what MK are doing so it can work.
You set the club vision and then you go and recruit both players and coaches that fit that vision. The idea being that you pair them together so that if you lose a player or the manager, you have continuity and not too much changes overall.
What following this strategy is likely to result in is an unknown name coming in. You can rule out almost everyone with previous experience at our level or above. Had you heard of Liam Manning prior to his work at MK? Or Rob Edwards at Forest Green?
I hope Sandgaard has a good handle on youth football in this country because that’s probably the best place to find someone who will accept this style of management.
Would we need to convince a prospective manager to take up one of these performance related contracts as well, or was that reserved for Jackson?
Reserved for Jackson to get Thomas out of a corner that he put himself in.
JJ was in a weak position when trying to get appointed as TS was reluctant to take him. Hence the clause. Surely any established manager would just walk away from that small print
I’m not totally opposed to the ‘manager doesn’t pick the players’ if the ownership is going all in on it, rather than flip flopping based on the latest trends. It’s exactly what MK are doing so it can work.
You set the club vision and then you go and recruit both players and coaches that fit that vision. The idea being that you pair them together so that if you lose a player or the manager, you have continuity and not too much changes overall.
What following this strategy is likely to result in is an unknown name coming in. You can rule out almost everyone with previous experience at our level or above. Had you heard of Liam Manning prior to his work at MK? Or Rob Edwards at Forest Green?
I hope Sandgaard has a good handle on youth football in this country because that’s probably the best place to find someone who will accept this style of management.
Agreed
My big concern is the lack of knowledge within the club about the latest up and coming coaches. What does TS know about the coaches within the England youth setup, or at Big 6 clubs?
I’m not totally opposed to the ‘manager doesn’t pick the players’ if the ownership is going all in on it, rather than flip flopping based on the latest trends. It’s exactly what MK are doing so it can work.
You set the club vision and then you go and recruit both players and coaches that fit that vision. The idea being that you pair them together so that if you lose a player or the manager, you have continuity and not too much changes overall.
What following this strategy is likely to result in is an unknown name coming in. You can rule out almost everyone with previous experience at our level or above. Had you heard of Liam Manning prior to his work at MK? Or Rob Edwards at Forest Green?
I hope Sandgaard has a good handle on youth football in this country because that’s probably the best place to find someone who will accept this style of management.
I am not against it(though I am against appointing his own son as the head of it). But looking at our recruitment so far I wouldn’t say it is recruiting players for this style. It has worked at MK and FGR but both have been doing it for years and only just getting the rewards now. Sandgaard wants us top 2 next season so although it could be a good long term plan, will he have the patience?
I’m not totally opposed to the ‘manager doesn’t pick the players’ if the ownership is going all in on it, rather than flip flopping based on the latest trends. It’s exactly what MK are doing so it can work.
You set the club vision and then you go and recruit both players and coaches that fit that vision. The idea being that you pair them together so that if you lose a player or the manager, you have continuity and not too much changes overall.
What following this strategy is likely to result in is an unknown name coming in. You can rule out almost everyone with previous experience at our level or above. Had you heard of Liam Manning prior to his work at MK? Or Rob Edwards at Forest Green?
I hope Sandgaard has a good handle on youth football in this country because that’s probably the best place to find someone who will accept this style of management.
I am not against it(though I am against appointing his own son as the head of it). But looking at our recruitment so far I wouldn’t say it is recruiting players for this style. It has worked at MK and FGR but both have been doing it for years and only just getting the rewards now. Sandgaard wants us top 2 next season so although it could be a good long term plan, will he have the patience?
Yes that is another factor to take into account. This could be a long, slow and painful process.
I hope Sandgaard has a good handle on youth football in this country because that’s probably the best place to find someone who will accept this style of management.
U23 coaches under the age of 50 working in Premier League 2…
Brian Barry-Murphy : Man City Elliot Dickman : Newcastle Jamie Collins : Wolves Kevin Betsy : Arsenal Deon Burton : West Brom (ex-Charlton…) Andy Reid : Forest (ex-Charlton…) Alan Neilson : Norwich Paddy McCarthy : Crystal Palace (ex-Charlton…) Andrew Taylor : Leeds Neil Wood/Paul McShane : Man Utd Andrew Crofts : Brighton (ex-Charlton…) Mark Delaney : Aston Villa Mark Tinkler : Middlesbrough Andy Myers : Chelsea Noel Hunt : Reading Pat Lyons : Derby
I hope Sandgaard has a good handle on youth football in this country because that’s probably the best place to find someone who will accept this style of management.
U23 coaches under the age of 50 working in Premier League 2…
Brian Barry-Murphy : Man City Elliot Dickman : Newcastle Jamie Collins : Wolves Kevin Betsy : Arsenal Deon Burton : West Brom (ex-Charlton…) Andy Reid : Forest (ex-Charlton…) Alan Neilson : Norwich Paddy McCarthy : Crystal Palace (ex-Charlton…) Andrew Taylor : Leeds Neil Wood/Paul McShane : Man Utd Andrew Crofts : Brighton (ex-Charlton…) Mark Delaney : Aston Villa Mark Tinkler : Middlesbrough Andy Myers : Chelsea Noel Hunt : Reading Pat Lyons : Derby
Good start, but which ones play out from the back with a high press?
I know a lot of people would be against it due to Millwall links, but I've begrudgingly admired Neil Harris for a long time. A good coach, who is exactly the sort of character we need to sort out this mess.
It'll probably be some unheard of Danish guy though
Not sure he’d take it. He’d probably see Gillingham to Charlton as a sideways step these days.
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Else it doesn't matter who it is.
Not mentioned is the 8th placed finish during his first season in the Championship.
Plenty above to suggest he may be just what you're looking for.
’Probably’ happy with a one dimensional hoofball merchant who is a Millwall legend.
Obvious has more of a successful body of work to look back on than JJ. But does appear to be a little hit and miss. Makes me think that a lot of things have to align for most managers to be semi successful.
I’d be surprised if we don’t get a foreign manager
You set the club vision and then you go and recruit both players and coaches that fit that vision. The idea being that you pair them together so that if you lose a player or the manager, you have continuity and not too much changes overall.
What following this strategy is likely to result in is an unknown name coming in. You can rule out almost everyone with previous experience at our level or above. Had you heard of Liam Manning prior to his work at MK? Or Rob Edwards at Forest Green?
I hope Sandgaard has a good handle on youth football in this country because that’s probably the best place to find someone who will accept this style of management.
My big concern is the lack of knowledge within the club about the latest up and coming coaches. What does TS know about the coaches within the England youth setup, or at Big 6 clubs?
Brian Barry-Murphy : Man City
Elliot Dickman : Newcastle
Jamie Collins : Wolves
Kevin Betsy : Arsenal
Deon Burton : West Brom (ex-Charlton…)
Andy Reid : Forest (ex-Charlton…)
Alan Neilson : Norwich
Paddy McCarthy : Crystal Palace (ex-Charlton…)
Andrew Taylor : Leeds
Neil Wood/Paul McShane : Man Utd
Andrew Crofts : Brighton (ex-Charlton…)
Mark Delaney : Aston Villa
Mark Tinkler : Middlesbrough
Andy Myers : Chelsea
Noel Hunt : Reading
Pat Lyons : Derby
Might be quicker to list those who don’t.