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BBC London- Charlton show- 7-8pm

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Sounds like a replay of Brown’s thoughts from yesterday. Mentioned poor recruitment and lack of leadership in the squad.

    Mortimer now on.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    @LouisMend now on
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    Looking at the quotes on twitter morts critical of saangard 
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    He wants high pressing? So, now the chairman is a coach who understands tactics....I don't know why he's talking about tactics. It worries me...He's employing his son who has no football background" - Paul Mortimer on @BBCLondonSport #cafc
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,753
    Who is the woman called Sue speaking?
    I admire how frank she is.

  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    If you’ve BBC Sounds app you can go to the BBC London station and tune in live, or drag back to when the Charlton section started at 7
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    Very one sided this.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    This really isn’t reflecting what the fan base sounds like, and sounds like Aaron Paul is doing a therapy session for Sue
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    Are they gonna get someone on with a different view?
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    Chunes said:
    Are they gonna get someone on with a different view?
    No the emotive stuff is good radio 
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  • BDL
    BDL Posts: 6,001
    To be fair, it's personal for Sue as she is so close to Jacko and his family. I tried to be balanced as did Louis.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    I haven't heard any balance to be honest
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    That was a bit of a hit job
  • raytreacy69
    raytreacy69 Posts: 955
    If TS was listening to this I think he would be pretty pissed off
    He seems to have gone from Hero to Zero in a fairly short perio Of time which IMO is  unfair
    I was sorry to see JJ go but we move on
    I have renewed my ST and mad as I am - I look forward to the new season
    Massive decision for TS re next Manager/Coach
    I hope he gets it right
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    I like Aaron as a presenter, but he knows how to wind someone up and let them go, and he got some good stuff that will do well on Sounds.

    I know Sue is close to Jackson but that makes the overly emotive stuff worse 

  • BDL
    BDL Posts: 6,001
    edited May 2022
    Chunes said:
    That was a bit of a hit job

    Not really, do you want him to get someone in quickly? Because thats what I said. Louis also said that if he was going to do it then this is the "right" time. Let's face it there's never a right time and yes I'm gutted he's gone, he was the one consistent thing through the years of madness.
    As I said, It's Thomas's club, I hope he makes the right decision, one we can all get behind. I hope he brings in someone with experience to get us out of this league.
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,906
    Tbh it all getting tiresome now. Yes it's sad it didnt work out but you cant escape the fact that last season really wasnt good enough and listening to JJ he felt sure it wasnt that bad. Sorry but time to move on 
  • Mrkinski
    Mrkinski Posts: 957
    I thought BDL and Louis were balanced - pointing out that there are very mixed opinions on TS actions re Jacko. I’ve been pro-TS most of the time, but this stubbornness, my way or the highway, is giving me cause for concern.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited May 2022
    BDL said:
    Chunes said:
    That was a bit of a hit job

    Not really, do you want him to get someone in quickly? Because thats what I said. Louis also said that if he was going to do it then this is the "right" time. Let's face it there's never a right time and yes I'm gutted he's gone, he was the one consistent thing through the years of madness.
    As I said, It's Thomas's club, I hope he makes the right decision, one we can all get behind. I hope he brings in someone with experience to get us out of this league.
    I'm not critising anyone who went on the show because you were brought on to give your views and you all gave them well. My problem is that they were all variations on the same view and that it was wrong to sack JJ. But that view alone isn't representative of how the fanbase feels. The show could've sourced someone who could offer that viewpoint because otherwise it was just a hit job.
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    roseandcrown said:
    He wants high pressing? So, now the chairman is a coach who understands tactics....I don't know why he's talking about tactics. It worries me...He's employing his son who has no football background" - Paul Mortimer on @BBCLondonSport #cafc
    TS is like a really annoying parent who knows it all when you're trying to run a kids team - then squirms out of it when you ask them to take training to get across what they're on about. 
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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    edited May 2022
    Rothko said:
    I like Aaron as a presenter, but he knows how to wind someone up and let them go, and he got some good stuff that will do well on Sounds.

    I know Sue is close to Jackson but that makes the overly emotive stuff worse 

    Not very balanced imo with regard to Jonie going. And crying over the sacking yesterday.....🙄. I'm sure Millwall fans will be pissing themselves. 
  • LouisMend
    LouisMend Posts: 5,448
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0c04tfr 1 hr 5 mins in
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    Yeah it was pretty unrepresentative of the wider fanbase view imo. 

    Everyone is entitled to their own view so no problem with that, but if I was a neutral tuning in I’d be thinking this was the biggest shock decision in football and fans were protesting with pitchforks.

     @LouisMend paid reference to the fact it wasn’t 100% the view, but in the overall package of the programme it was a very minor representation. 

    @BDL made a good point about it making the recruitment process more difficult, but I think we’re not completely alone with that
  • Manic_mania
    Manic_mania Posts: 2,259
    edited May 2022
    I do wonder if sometimes we are in a CL bubble a lot of the time in regards to the wider fanbase (I don't look at other forums or have any major interaction with the hoy paloy so to speak that may not frequent them) off the back of this piece I feel like my view is marginalised in that sense now, despite feeling that my views have validity. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    Very one sided. Not exactly representative to invite someone on who is apparently so close to JJ. Shame Sue won’t renew her season ticket, obviously supports JJ more than she supports the team.
  • NorthStandUltra
    NorthStandUltra Posts: 2,540
    edited May 2022
    I do sometimes find the reaction a bit hysterical from certain people when Charlton favourites get sacked or perceived to be treated unfairly by the owner - it was the same when Chris Powell went but more justified when Powell was sacked. 

    Re Jackson, I don’t think he was capable of getting the club out of L1, there was never a plan B - like or dislike Sandgaard (jury is out for me) it’s his decision & money & ultimately he didn’t believe Jackson was capable - I’d rather Sandgaard made this decision now than give Jackson the summer & we find ourselves in 12th come October after being given the transfer window 

    Personally, I think it was touch & go whether Jacko deserved another season, he should have got a better tune out of the squad he had at his disposal, I think once he was made perm they downed tools which suggests he couldn’t motivate them 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    LargeAddick said:
    Very one sided. Not exactly representative to invite someone on who is apparently so close to JJ. Shame Sue won’t renew her season ticket, obviously supports JJ more than she supports the team.
    Some of these people are the ones that were so vocal that Jackson should have got the job both when Bowyer left and Adkins left.

    What did they think would happen?  He be manager for life?  Once he got the job it was always 70/30 he would be sacked or leave for a bigger job and they would-be gutted either way.
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,701
    NorthStandUltra said:
    I do sometimes find the reaction a bit hysterical from certain people when Charlton favourites get sacked or perceived to be treated unfairly by the owner - it was the same when Chris Powell went but more justified when Powell was sacked. 

    Re Jackson, I don’t think he was capable of getting the club out of L1, there was never a plan B - like or dislike Sandgaard (jury is out for me) it’s his decision & money & ultimately he didn’t believe Jackson was capable - I’d rather Sandgaard made this decision now than give Jackson the summer & we find ourselves in 12th come October after being given the transfer window 

    Personally, I think it was touch & go whether Jacko deserved another season, he should have got a better tune out of the squad he had at his disposal, I think once he was made perm they downed tools which suggests he couldn’t motivate them 
    That was a worry for me also. Especially as he had the players to be flexible in another formation. 
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    Mortimer is bang on.


  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    edited May 2022
    Manic_mania said:
    I do wonder if sometimes we are in a CL bubble a lot of the time in regards to the wider fanbase (I don't look at other forums or have any major interaction with the hoy paloy so to speak that may not frequent them) off the back of this piece I feel like my view is marginalised in that sense now, despite feeling that my views have validity. 
    Those i know who are not on CL have not had confidence in Sandgaard  for a while and I would say this forum is a very pro Sandgaard bubble in the main.

    He's talked a lot and pulled out a lot off naff gimmicks but now needs to deliver beyond PR and soundbites.


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