Thankfully I have never liked it so never done it. Pure luck rather than judgement.
Got quite pink a couple of weeks back though on a cloudy, cold day watching my lad at a footy tournament for 5 hours. Never occured to me to put sun cream on (same with all the dad's), just shows that checking UV rays in the forecast is as important as the actual weather itself.
I am very fortunate that my missus shares the same passion as me for sunbathing. Hit the sun Beds after breakfast, read, listen to music, dip in the pool etc. Toddle off for lunch in the shade and then back to the sun beds, umbrella up for a doze then back out in the sun.
I am very fortunate that my missus shares the same passion as me for sunbathing. Hit the sun Beds after breakfast, read, listen to music, dip in the pool etc. Toddle off for lunch in the shade and then back to the sun beds, umbrella up for a doze then back out in the sun.
My Mrs is exactly the same. I however can't lay in it for longer than an hour so am more than happy to go find a shaded area at the bar and meet back up with her for lunch.
I've worked outdoors for years and as a consequence have pretty coarse skin that tans easily. Not like the guys who had a 20 year head start on me mind you who go so brown you can't see their tattoos. I am not a fan of burning or melanoma and spend time greasing up in preparation.
Nowadays there is no chance of getting a tan at work due to all the PPE you have to wear even on days like today when its fair to say I have got hot. In fact asides the core of the sun I believe my gooch is the hottest surface in the known universe currently
Have kids. You basically never get to sunbathe again. Reckon in 12 years I’ve got to lay down and relax in the sun an aggregated total of 38 minutes.
I am fairly swarthy in complexion and used to start off on factor 4 and then onto the oils later on in the hols. Then once the kids came along it was get up at 630 to get the sun beds in the shade and wear the same factor 50 as the kids.
I think I would have had a tantrum if I was made to wear a rashie when I was 5 and going in the swimming pool.
Really interesting and frightening hearing stories of those who have had scares/skin cancer.
Can I ask, if not too sensitive, how much sun intake we are talking here? To my shame, I know very little about skin cancer.
I play football once a week in the sun, and occasionally (too occasionally) go for bike rides. As a result I have quite a nice tan, but I certainly am not a sun worshipper. I am not the kind of person that fries in after 5 minutes of sun, so not at the highest risk (if that's even a thing). I never use sun tan lotion but then I'm never in the sun for more than a couple hours at a time, once or twice a week.
I know that there's obviously a chance I could get cancer from minimal amount of sun etc, but, and again, not wanting to sound insensitive or crass, are the people who end up with skin cancer generally "sun worshippers"? Or just people who got unlucky and didn't wear enough suncream etc despite moderate sun consumption.
Really interesting and frightening hearing stories of those who have had scares/skin cancer.
Can I ask, if not too sensitive, how much sun intake we are talking here? To my shame, I know very little about skin cancer.
I play football once a week in the sun, and occasionally (too occasionally) go for bike rides. As a result I have quite a nice tan, but I certainly am not a sun worshipper. I am not the kind of person that fries in after 5 minutes of sun, so not at the highest risk (if that's even a thing). I never use sun tan lotion but then I'm never in the sun for more than a couple hours at a time, once or twice a week.
I know that there's obviously a chance I could get cancer from minimal amount of sun etc, but, and again, not wanting to sound insensitive or crass, are the people who end up with skin cancer generally "sun worshippers"? Or just people who got unlucky and didn't wear enough suncream etc despite moderate sun consumption.
In my case it was totally self inflicted. Because I never used to go red and burn I never bothered with sun cream. Lay in the sun all day on holiday and go as brown as the locals. I used to see people with pale skin , ginger hair and the like and think they were the ones at risk and not me. Sadly I was wrong.
Really interesting and frightening hearing stories of those who have had scares/skin cancer.
Can I ask, if not too sensitive, how much sun intake we are talking here? To my shame, I know very little about skin cancer.
I play football once a week in the sun, and occasionally (too occasionally) go for bike rides. As a result I have quite a nice tan, but I certainly am not a sun worshipper. I am not the kind of person that fries in after 5 minutes of sun, so not at the highest risk (if that's even a thing). I never use sun tan lotion but then I'm never in the sun for more than a couple hours at a time, once or twice a week.
I know that there's obviously a chance I could get cancer from minimal amount of sun etc, but, and again, not wanting to sound insensitive or crass, are the people who end up with skin cancer generally "sun worshippers"? Or just people who got unlucky and didn't wear enough suncream etc despite moderate sun consumption.
I don't mind talking about it at all. I am heartened that you are sufficiently interested to ask.
When I was first diagnosed the dermatologist told me that latest research (this was 27 years ago) had concluded that getting sunburnt as a child, just twice, was enough to trigger permanent skin damage and hugely increase your chances of getting skin cancer in later life.
When I was a child, no one gave it a seconds thought: go to Dymchurch, run about on the beach all day, get burnt, slap on calamine lotion.
Now, hopefully things are a bit better. But not good enough. The thing is it doesn't matter whether it is sunny or cloudy, summer or winter, the nasty UV-A and UV-B rays still get to you. Less of the UV-B in the winter though.
As ever, the Yanks tend to be better than us at these things. So I have added a link to the US Skin Cancer Foundation site which provides good background information. And some very scary statistics. Such as 1in 5 Americans will develop skin cancer by the time they are 70; there more more cases of skin cancer in the US than ALL other cancers combined; and 5.4 million cases of non-melanoma skin cancers were treated in the last year that statistics are available. https://www.skincancer.org/
Really interesting and frightening hearing stories of those who have had scares/skin cancer.
Can I ask, if not too sensitive, how much sun intake we are talking here? To my shame, I know very little about skin cancer.
I play football once a week in the sun, and occasionally (too occasionally) go for bike rides. As a result I have quite a nice tan, but I certainly am not a sun worshipper. I am not the kind of person that fries in after 5 minutes of sun, so not at the highest risk (if that's even a thing). I never use sun tan lotion but then I'm never in the sun for more than a couple hours at a time, once or twice a week.
I know that there's obviously a chance I could get cancer from minimal amount of sun etc, but, and again, not wanting to sound insensitive or crass, are the people who end up with skin cancer generally "sun worshippers"? Or just people who got unlucky and didn't wear enough suncream etc despite moderate sun consumption.
Before my father died his consultant told me and my sister to be very careful with the sun as there is family history on both sides of our family, its in our genes. Basically cover up and sit in the shade. That was 20 years ago. My mother has had a few bits removed over the last few years but she is very old now so I doubt it will go any further with her. My grandfather had various bits removed, he was milk bottle white and never went in the sun. Scary stuff, the good weather may not be so good.
My brother had a mole appear on his arm, so got it checked out and was melanoma. He got it removed in time. I decided to get myself checked, the Doc didn't like the look of a small lump on my back, the size of a pin head. He removed it for biopsy, turned out it was all ok. I used to sun bathe a bit on hols, but never really enjoyed it much. I didn't realise how common and dangerous skin cancer is. Even if you think your skin tans easily and you don't burn, always use a sun screen... It only costs 150 quid for a full body check btw.
Mr F experienced sunburn as a child in the 50's before sun cream was probably invented, and then when he was in the Merchant Navy on the P&O Oriana for a couple of years before we were married in 1970.
He had a cancerous mole removed from his leg in 1993 & thought that it was done & dusted.
However, a year or so later, he thought he had a hernia and saw our GP who sent him straight to hospital where it was found that the cancer had spread to the lymph nodes in his groin & he underwent an operation to remove them & the surrounding area.
A wake up call indeed.
He was advised by his Consultant to avoid the sun in future- to wear long sleeved shirts etc in the summer months.
Since the removal of said lymph glands, he has lymphoedema in his left leg which is twice the size of his right. He had one hobby before his melanoma which was running to keep fit & managed to compete in several Marathons inc the London. The lymphoedema made this form of exercise impossible & affected him quite badly. These days he finds it difficult to keep his weight at a reasonable level which is upsetting so his life has been impacted in more ways than one.
I do worry about our daughter who has reddish hair and whose legs were burnt fairly badly on a holiday in Spain when she was 4.But, in her 40's now, and a Mum of 3, she doesn't need my reminders of this issue....
I enjoy sunbathing, and with a naturally darkish skin colour, probably take more risks than I should when abroad. A tan, even a light one, does make me feel better about myself without a doubt....
At the end of the day, it's about personal choices as with many other aspects of our lives as long as we are aware of the possible outcomes.
I don't sunbathe, as I find it boring, so any tan I get (and I tan easily) is from doing stuff outside such as walking or watching sport
You have to be careful when watching cricket, as you're sitting in the same place and position for an awful long time. Similarly, I remember being caught out many years ago at the Paris air show, standing in the open for several hours...
As I tan easily without sunbathing, my problem is that my face and neck and lower arms get tanned, while the rest of me stays paler! Not a sexy look
Four things The first is don't get a tan - it is not worth it. Second, if you really must I'd try Banana Boat SPF 50; the kids version, it is cheaper and is what I use. I have to, just to go out of the house. Third, always wear very high quality sun glasses with 100% UVA/UVB protection - the last thing you want is an eye melanoma. Fourth, use a hat, preferably cowboy style* but if you don't want to look like a prat, get a genuine Panama, (one of these because they just roll up if you are not wearing it).
Years of being in the sun has trashed my skin. (Particularly the right hand side of my face, probably because I always used to drive with the window down.)
My first batch of skin cancer was diagnosed 27 years ago. This year alone I have had 9 bits sliced out of my face and scalp in two separate operations. It doesn't go away and is not fun.
* Get a Bailey rather than a Stetson, they are better IMO.
Edited to add: fun fact of the day Panama hats are made in Equador, not Panama.
A hat shop where we were in Puglia had genuine Panama hats from Ecuador at €450 a pop. I tried one on and it was so comfortable I hardly noticed it was there, but at that price there was no way to justify it
When you don't want to ask your mate to slap some cream over your back for you.
[insert Kenneth Williams pic here]
Many years ago on holiday in Greece, we’d made friends with a group of women we’d meet the beach most days. One day, they decided we should sunbathe in the nude. I had no problem with this until they started rubbing suntan lotion on each other’s backsides. Let’s just say I had to stay on my front for a while.
Four things The first is don't get a tan - it is not worth it. Second, if you really must I'd try Banana Boat SPF 50; the kids version, it is cheaper and is what I use. I have to, just to go out of the house. Third, always wear very high quality sun glasses with 100% UVA/UVB protection - the last thing you want is an eye melanoma. Fourth, use a hat, preferably cowboy style* but if you don't want to look like a prat, get a genuine Panama, (one of these because they just roll up if you are not wearing it).
Years of being in the sun has trashed my skin. (Particularly the right hand side of my face, probably because I always used to drive with the window down.)
My first batch of skin cancer was diagnosed 27 years ago. This year alone I have had 9 bits sliced out of my face and scalp in two separate operations. It doesn't go away and is not fun.
* Get a Bailey rather than a Stetson, they are better IMO.
Edited to add: fun fact of the day Panama hats are made in Equador, not Panama.
A hat shop where we were in Puglia had genuine Panama hats from Ecuador at €450 a pop. I tried one on and it was so comfortable I hardly noticed it was there, but at that price there was no way to justify it
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Can’t think of anything worse now. Umbrella, book, beer.
Screaming kids.
Got quite pink a couple of weeks back though on a cloudy, cold day watching my lad at a footy tournament for 5 hours. Never occured to me to put sun cream on (same with all the dad's), just shows that checking UV rays in the forecast is as important as the actual weather itself.
Nowadays there is no chance of getting a tan at work due to all the PPE you have to wear even on days like today when its fair to say I have got hot. In fact asides the core of the sun I believe my gooch is the hottest surface in the known universe currently
Can I ask, if not too sensitive, how much sun intake we are talking here? To my shame, I know very little about skin cancer.
I play football once a week in the sun, and occasionally (too occasionally) go for bike rides. As a result I have quite a nice tan, but I certainly am not a sun worshipper. I am not the kind of person that fries in after 5 minutes of sun, so not at the highest risk (if that's even a thing). I never use sun tan lotion but then I'm never in the sun for more than a couple hours at a time, once or twice a week.
I know that there's obviously a chance I could get cancer from minimal amount of sun etc, but, and again, not wanting to sound insensitive or crass, are the people who end up with skin cancer generally "sun worshippers"? Or just people who got unlucky and didn't wear enough suncream etc despite moderate sun consumption.
Because I never used to go red and burn I never bothered with sun cream.
Lay in the sun all day on holiday and go as brown as the locals.
I used to see people with pale skin , ginger hair and the like and think they were the ones at risk and not me.
Sadly I was wrong.
When I was first diagnosed the dermatologist told me that latest research (this was 27 years ago) had concluded that getting sunburnt as a child, just twice, was enough to trigger permanent skin damage and hugely increase your chances of getting skin cancer in later life.
When I was a child, no one gave it a seconds thought: go to Dymchurch, run about on the beach all day, get burnt, slap on calamine lotion.
Now, hopefully things are a bit better. But not good enough. The thing is it doesn't matter whether it is sunny or cloudy, summer or winter, the nasty UV-A and UV-B rays still get to you. Less of the UV-B in the winter though.
As ever, the Yanks tend to be better than us at these things. So I have added a link to the US Skin Cancer Foundation site which provides good background information. And some very scary statistics. Such as 1in 5 Americans will develop skin cancer by the time they are 70; there more more cases of skin cancer in the US than ALL other cancers combined; and 5.4 million cases of non-melanoma skin cancers were treated in the last year that statistics are available. https://www.skincancer.org/
Just be careful out there please guys!
My mother has had a few bits removed over the last few years but she is very old now so I doubt it will go any further with her. My grandfather had various bits removed, he was milk bottle white and never went in the sun.
Scary stuff, the good weather may not be so good.
I used to sun bathe a bit on hols, but never really enjoyed it much.
I didn't realise how common and dangerous skin cancer is. Even if you think your skin tans easily and you don't burn, always use a sun screen...
It only costs 150 quid for a full body check btw.
I am off to get some sun cream, once there's some shade that is!
He had a cancerous mole removed from his leg in 1993 & thought that it was done & dusted.
However, a year or so later, he thought he had a hernia and saw our GP who sent him straight to hospital where it was found that the cancer had spread to the lymph nodes in his groin & he underwent an operation to remove them & the surrounding area.
A wake up call indeed.
He was advised by his Consultant to avoid the sun in future- to wear long sleeved shirts etc in the summer months.
Since the removal of said lymph glands, he has lymphoedema in his left leg which is twice the size of his right. He had one hobby before his melanoma which was running to keep fit & managed to compete in several Marathons inc the London. The lymphoedema made this form of exercise impossible & affected him quite badly. These days he finds it difficult to keep his weight at a reasonable level which is upsetting so his life has been impacted in more ways than one.
I do worry about our daughter who has reddish hair and whose legs were burnt fairly badly on a holiday in Spain when she was 4.But, in her 40's now, and a Mum of 3, she doesn't need my reminders of this issue....
I enjoy sunbathing, and with a naturally darkish skin colour, probably take more risks than I should when abroad. A tan, even a light one, does make me feel better about myself without a doubt....
At the end of the day, it's about personal choices as with many other aspects of our lives as long as we are aware of the possible outcomes.
You have to be careful when watching cricket, as you're sitting in the same place and position for an awful long time. Similarly, I remember being caught out many years ago at the Paris air show, standing in the open for several hours...
As I tan easily without sunbathing, my problem is that my face and neck and lower arms get tanned, while the rest of me stays paler! Not a sexy look
Adults only is the way to go #JustSaying
looks like the genuine article - made from the correct straw.