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Jack Payne - July 2024 signed for Colchester (p14)

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  • I don’t know what to think. We wanted a clear out. We’re getting one. We wanted some goals from midfield. On the face of it Jack helps here. But the niggling feeling that we’re recruiting a bunch of league 2 players haunts me. Welcome aboard the good ship Swindo, sorry CAFC Jack. I hope you are a ray of light. 
    Just remind me Swindon finished in 6th position in Division 2 last season and now it’s expected that these same players push us on to The Championship.
    I have reservations about this approach as well. Swindon had a good season but to replicate in a league higher is harder. I think Payne will prove to be a good signing but will he be better than JFC who I think this is a replacement for 
  • Scoham said:

    He speaks reasonably well. It is clear he enjoys playing football and he wants to succeed at Charlton.
  • Scoham said:
    I don’t know what to think. We wanted a clear out. We’re getting one. We wanted some goals from midfield. On the face of it Jack helps here. But the niggling feeling that we’re recruiting a bunch of league 2 players haunts me. Welcome aboard the good ship Swindo, sorry CAFC Jack. I hope you are a ray of light. 
    Just remind me Swindon finished in 6th position in Division 2 last season and now it’s expected that these same players push us on to The Championship.
    I have reservations about this approach as well. Swindon had a good season but to replicate in a league higher is harder. I think Payne will prove to be a good signing but will he be better than JFC who I think this is a replacement for 
    You could argue in some cases we need the right type of player more than we need someone better. Payne adds goals and a more naturally attacking player to our CMs which is definitely something we needed.
    This, this and this.  There are still maybe half a dozen, or more, that this is the case for.
  • Payne’s agent on Instagram:

    "Couldn't be happier for @jackopayne1 on his signing for @cafcofficial today on a multi-year contract. We've had to be really patient on this one over the summer, as well as ensuring we stick to our core principles and are always putting the Player's wants and needs first to get it done, and I'm delighted that we stuck to our guns and got it over the line"


     
    Multi year contract is a bit of over the top way of saying '2 years' isn't it?
    Unless there is an option for another year?
  • I don’t know what to think. We wanted a clear out. We’re getting one. We wanted some goals from midfield. On the face of it Jack helps here. But the niggling feeling that we’re recruiting a bunch of league 2 players haunts me. Welcome aboard the good ship Swindo, sorry CAFC Jack. I hope you are a ray of light. 
    Said this a while back, if we're recruiting from 4th division don't be surprised if we're in a relegation battle. I'm not saying we will be as I have no idea about the players that we have signed. Of course if we recruit the best from the 4th Division it may work out, time will tell but it is a bit of a worry to me.
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  • IAgree said:
    So a divisive manager, with very patchy experience and success, hired by a narcissist who knows sod all about football, has essentially plundered his old club for a bunch of players who were so great that they were in league two in what should be the high point of their career and we have signed a half dozen academy players? Fabulous!
    🤷🏻‍♂️
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    TEL said:
    All clips below were during a two month period 5th March - 7th May 2022. In reverse order.

     0:30 goal
    1:00 penalty
    0:05 run from Egbo from halfway line, beats three men

     https://youtu.be/VL8e1cMTnYs

    1:55 assist

    https://youtu.be/YvUbY_-C1YY

    0:35 goal

    https://youtu.be/olXq_6EUoFM

    0:55 quick free kick, should have been an assist
    1:15 assist

    https://youtu.be/xSuNmWkJBRw

    1:35 assist

    https://youtu.be/f013SzrJ6vQ

    1:20 assist

    https://youtu.be/c-BcK8o5BeY

    1:50 goal

    https://youtu.be/lgpP5d7aBFQ

    1:45 penalty

    https://youtu.be/uI1191HUcWQ
    Swindon number 9 looks useful 😊
    Top of the January target list, £500k will get it done :wink: 
  • Interesting that he can put a free kick in with his 'weaker' foot?
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  • I don’t know what to think. We wanted a clear out. We’re getting one. We wanted some goals from midfield. On the face of it Jack helps here. But the niggling feeling that we’re recruiting a bunch of league 2 players haunts me. Welcome aboard the good ship Swindo, sorry CAFC Jack. I hope you are a ray of light. 
    Said this a while back, if we're recruiting from 4th division don't be surprised if we're in a relegation battle. I'm not saying we will be as I have no idea about the players that we have signed. Of course if we recruit the best from the 4th Division it may work out, time will tell but it is a bit of a worry to me.
    Personally think that this point of view is a little bit snobbish, it’s exactly the same scenario as a club like Luton for example signing George Dobson and their fans grumbling because he comes from League One, despite being a clear stand-out very good player. Give me a promising player climbing up a division all day long over someone who looks good on paper like Ben Watson, Harry Arter, Beram Kayal, Joe Ledley, Tomer Hemed etc who turn up and can’t be bothered.
    There would be a slight difference in that situation though, as while Luton obviously would hope for promotion, it's not something they would realistically be targeting, with all the (much) bigger sides around them. If with the likes of Dobson they finish midtable Championship, that would be a good season, whereas if we finish midtable in L1, that would be a very poor effort.

    Luton need players to consolidate in the Championship, we needs players to get us promoted from L1.
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    Scoham said:
    Charlton below the eyebrows, Millwall above. Jury's out for me.

    edit: to be clear I’m talking about his suspect barnet
  • Scoham said:
    I don’t know what to think. We wanted a clear out. We’re getting one. We wanted some goals from midfield. On the face of it Jack helps here. But the niggling feeling that we’re recruiting a bunch of league 2 players haunts me. Welcome aboard the good ship Swindo, sorry CAFC Jack. I hope you are a ray of light. 
    Just remind me Swindon finished in 6th position in Division 2 last season and now it’s expected that these same players push us on to The Championship.
    I have reservations about this approach as well. Swindon had a good season but to replicate in a league higher is harder. I think Payne will prove to be a good signing but will he be better than JFC who I think this is a replacement for 
    You could argue in some cases we need the right type of player more than we need someone better. Payne adds goals and a more naturally attacking player to our CMs which is definitely something we needed.

     It's a team sport and even functional teams like Rotherham can get promoted. 
    Relationships all over the pitch are needed.
    Forget your House analogy, think of a jigsaw and it all needs to fit. 
    The main problem for Cafc in recent seasons is as soon as our midfielders get into the box they fall to pieces !
  • Slightly concerned about the lack of height and power in midfield. All seems to be nice footballers, do think we are missing a Pratley type of player. 
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