Had my DNA ethnicity done some years ago when results were not so geographically refined. Now also had it had it broken down between maternal and paternal. Paternal side Ulster - Clones and surrounding area. Some Scots (not a surprise as Ulster 'close' to Scotland but also 1% England/NW Europe. Maternal side English/NW Europe with some Scots and Welsh - didn't know about the Scots & Welsh on my Mother's side.
As others have mentioned find out as much as you can now about your families. I was relatively young when my parents died and wished I had asked them more.
It’s interesting that Scotland, Wales & Ireland are all distinct ethnicities, but England gets lumped in with bits of Belgium & France.
Remember the Cornish are also an officially classified distinct ethnic minority.
They get lumped in with England too but until relatively recent times were considered by the English (and other nations) as a race distinct from the English.
Like Wales, Cornwall was considered the rump end of the remaining Celtic peoples in mainland Britain, (at least south of the Scottish border).
I'm 23% Cornish, must be something to do with all that ice cream when I was younger.
Dredging this up to say I finally got mine done and results back. I wanted to do it as my late nan was convinced we had Spanish heritage (for no other reason than she liked Spain when she went there - nutter). She was wrong, obviously. But we do have Scottish which I didn't know about (nan's grandparents most likely). So I'll be drinking more scotch than sangria this summer.
Everything else in there we knew about (dad with his 100% Welsh DNA, I guess his ancestors weren't lookers). The Norway element would be those cheeky Vikings I'd guess?
Dredging this up to say I finally got mine done and results back. I wanted to do it as my late nan was convinced we had Spanish heritage (for no other reason than she liked Spain when she went there - nutter). She was wrong, obviously. But we do have Scottish which I didn't know about (nan's grandparents most likely). So I'll be drinking more scotch than sangria this summer.
Everything else in there we knew about (dad with his 100% Welsh DNA, I guess his ancestors weren't lookers). The Norway element would be those cheeky Vikings I'd guess?
Anyone had any weird/unknown results back?
Not sure how you only got 48% Welsh from you dad if he was 100%.
I got 0.5% Nigerian which was a big surprise at the time. Since then we've managed to trace it back to an ancestor marrying and bringing a slave from the Americas to the UK, which is something we never knew about!
Dredging this up to say I finally got mine done and results back. I wanted to do it as my late nan was convinced we had Spanish heritage (for no other reason than she liked Spain when she went there - nutter). She was wrong, obviously. But we do have Scottish which I didn't know about (nan's grandparents most likely). So I'll be drinking more scotch than sangria this summer.
Everything else in there we knew about (dad with his 100% Welsh DNA, I guess his ancestors weren't lookers). The Norway element would be those cheeky Vikings I'd guess?
Anyone had any weird/unknown results back?
Not sure how you only got 48% Welsh from you dad if he was 100%. Ewe need to look into that.
I think that's her overall result not just her dad.
Dredging this up to say I finally got mine done and results back. I wanted to do it as my late nan was convinced we had Spanish heritage (for no other reason than she liked Spain when she went there - nutter). She was wrong, obviously. But we do have Scottish which I didn't know about (nan's grandparents most likely). So I'll be drinking more scotch than sangria this summer.
Everything else in there we knew about (dad with his 100% Welsh DNA, I guess his ancestors weren't lookers). The Norway element would be those cheeky Vikings I'd guess?
Anyone had any weird/unknown results back?
Not sure how you only got 48% Welsh from you dad if he was 100%. Ewe need to look into that.
Know ewe are partly joking but each estimate has a range, if you click on one it should show what it is.
Dredging this up to say I finally got mine done and results back. I wanted to do it as my late nan was convinced we had Spanish heritage (for no other reason than she liked Spain when she went there - nutter). She was wrong, obviously. But we do have Scottish which I didn't know about (nan's grandparents most likely). So I'll be drinking more scotch than sangria this summer.
Everything else in there we knew about (dad with his 100% Welsh DNA, I guess his ancestors weren't lookers). The Norway element would be those cheeky Vikings I'd guess?
Anyone had any weird/unknown results back?
Not sure how you only got 48% Welsh from you dad if he was 100%. Ewe need to look into that.
I think that's her overall result not just her dad.
Yeah it says:
"You may not have inherited certain DNA because
DNA inheritance is random, so you don't inherit 50% of your parents' ethnicities
at most, only half of someone’s DNA can be passed down
beyond your parents, the amount of DNA you inherit from ancestors is not necessarily 25% from each grandparent, 12.5% from each great-grandparent, and so forth
your DNA may also look more like DNA from regions near your ancestors' homelands than it does like DNA from their country."
Plus my dad did his DNA with them too and he got 100% Welsh, boring bugger.
Dredging this up to say I finally got mine done and results back. I wanted to do it as my late nan was convinced we had Spanish heritage (for no other reason than she liked Spain when she went there - nutter). She was wrong, obviously. But we do have Scottish which I didn't know about (nan's grandparents most likely). So I'll be drinking more scotch than sangria this summer.
Everything else in there we knew about (dad with his 100% Welsh DNA, I guess his ancestors weren't lookers). The Norway element would be those cheeky Vikings I'd guess?
Anyone had any weird/unknown results back?
Not sure how you only got 48% Welsh from you dad if he was 100%.
Dredging this up to say I finally got mine done and results back. I wanted to do it as my late nan was convinced we had Spanish heritage (for no other reason than she liked Spain when she went there - nutter). She was wrong, obviously. But we do have Scottish which I didn't know about (nan's grandparents most likely). So I'll be drinking more scotch than sangria this summer.
Everything else in there we knew about (dad with his 100% Welsh DNA, I guess his ancestors weren't lookers). The Norway element would be those cheeky Vikings I'd guess?
Anyone had any weird/unknown results back?
Not sure how you only got 48% Welsh from you dad if he was 100%. Ewe need to look into that.
I think that's her overall result not just her dad.
Yeah it says:
"You may not have inherited certain DNA because
DNA inheritance is random, so you don't inherit 50% of your parents' ethnicities
at most, only half of someone’s DNA can be passed down
beyond your parents, the amount of DNA you inherit from ancestors is not necessarily 25% from each grandparent, 12.5% from each great-grandparent, and so forth
your DNA may also look more like DNA from regions near your ancestors' homelands than it does like DNA from their country."
Plus my dad did his DNA with them too and he got 100% Welsh, boring bugger.
Not sure if I’m being thick, does this mean two siblings (with the same parents) could have different DNA results?
I've spent many years tracing my mum and dad's family trees. Decided to take an Ancestry UK DNA test...long story very short...turns out that my dad, whom I loved dearly, was not my biological father. Finding this out at 61 years of age, came as a bit of a shock (massive understatement). Employed a geneologist to look at my DNA matches to work out who my biological father was. We now know who my biological father was, he and all his family, were all from Bermondsey and Camberwell. I obviously had a narrow escape from supporting the other lot.
Dredging this up to say I finally got mine done and results back. I wanted to do it as my late nan was convinced we had Spanish heritage (for no other reason than she liked Spain when she went there - nutter). She was wrong, obviously. But we do have Scottish which I didn't know about (nan's grandparents most likely). So I'll be drinking more scotch than sangria this summer.
Everything else in there we knew about (dad with his 100% Welsh DNA, I guess his ancestors weren't lookers). The Norway element would be those cheeky Vikings I'd guess?
Anyone had any weird/unknown results back?
Not sure how you only got 48% Welsh from you dad if he was 100%. Ewe need to look into that.
I think that's her overall result not just her dad.
Yeah it says:
"You may not have inherited certain DNA because
DNA inheritance is random, so you don't inherit 50% of your parents' ethnicities
at most, only half of someone’s DNA can be passed down
beyond your parents, the amount of DNA you inherit from ancestors is not necessarily 25% from each grandparent, 12.5% from each great-grandparent, and so forth
your DNA may also look more like DNA from regions near your ancestors' homelands than it does like DNA from their country."
Plus my dad did his DNA with them too and he got 100% Welsh, boring bugger.
Not sure if I’m being thick, does this mean two siblings (with the same parents) could have different DNA results?
Yeah is possible in theory. You have 23 pairs of chromosomes, one from each parent, apart from sex cells which have only a single chromosome which are a mix of your parent's. Your sibling could have a mix that is the 23 chromosomes that you don't have. It's not as straightforward as that because the chromosome pairs swap some DNA, but you could end up with a bunch of genes from one parent that the other sibling doesn't get.
Unless we're talking about identical twins, siblings have a differing set of DNA.
Your parents effectively put there respective antecedents' chunks of DNA into two soup pots. They then stirred the pots for a bit and then took one scoop from each bowl and lumped it into what you became. Whilst your parents were drawing from the same soup pots for your siblings, lots of different chunks of DNA from the respective soups made it into their scoops.
In total one scoop (50% of you) was taken from each parent but what was in the scoop would have varied from one's siblings. Some one earlier asked why if a father was 100% Welsh why did their child not get 50% Welsh from him.
Answer most likely even though the father had two 'Welsh' parents at least one of them must have had an antecedent from somewhere else. So the father picked up a chunk of that somewhere else in his DNA and by a fluke managed to pass that small part on (the small chunk of non Welsh DNA made it into the scoop he passed on).
I discovered that a second cousin of mine on my mother's side has claimed "whakapapa" a Maori line of decent to a certain Maori tribe. i share the common antecedent with my cousin which would give me whakapapa as well. The tribe he claimed affiliation to accepted his claim without documentary or DNA evidence to support it. He can therefore call himself Maori.
But there's a problem because there is not one scintilla of Maori DNA is in my DNA profile. I have no concerns about being swapped at birth or anything like that as i have my mother's nose(!).
So two things are possible. 1) With say up to 6.5% of Maori DNA in my Mum's soup bowl, it just didn't make it into my scoop. 2) my cousin, who i don't know well at all, is a fantasist. Their have been financial benefits to him identifying as Maori, as well because he secured various scholarships from his tribe.
I have exchanged a few emails with him on the matter and the information he has provided is difficult to line up in a way that makes genealogical and logical sense in terms of various aspects of the story. And you could interpret some of his responses as being a bit evasive. I don't want to be too pushy on the matter as he may cut off communication.
Overall without documentary nor DNA evidence i am inclined to think there is no Maori in our family tree. However i can't rule it out. To add to the 'True' argument my bum of a grandfather who was a drunk and a womaniser and whom my mother didn't know very well had a Maori first name! Very unusual for even Maori to have Maori names back in the day. So there's that.
It all leads to interesting questions about identity. I don't think of myself as Maori, Had not Maori presence in my extended family, apparently have no Maori DNA, but if somehow my cousin lands on irrefutable proof of Maori ancestry - does that make me Maori?
Dredging this up to say I finally got mine done and results back. I wanted to do it as my late nan was convinced we had Spanish heritage (for no other reason than she liked Spain when she went there - nutter). She was wrong, obviously. But we do have Scottish which I didn't know about (nan's grandparents most likely). So I'll be drinking more scotch than sangria this summer.
Everything else in there we knew about (dad with his 100% Welsh DNA, I guess his ancestors weren't lookers). The Norway element would be those cheeky Vikings I'd guess?
Anyone had any weird/unknown results back?
Not sure how you only got 48% Welsh from you dad if he was 100%. Ewe need to look into that.
I think that's her overall result not just her dad.
Yeah it says:
"You may not have inherited certain DNA because
DNA inheritance is random, so you don't inherit 50% of your parents' ethnicities
at most, only half of someone’s DNA can be passed down
beyond your parents, the amount of DNA you inherit from ancestors is not necessarily 25% from each grandparent, 12.5% from each great-grandparent, and so forth
your DNA may also look more like DNA from regions near your ancestors' homelands than it does like DNA from their country."
Plus my dad did his DNA with them too and he got 100% Welsh, boring bugger.
Not sure if I’m being thick, does this mean two siblings (with the same parents) could have different DNA results?
Yes because it's all about the make up of the 50% mix inherited from each parent.
I did the DNA test and apparently I'm 37.5% whippet, 12.5% greyhound, 37.5% staffy and 12.5% 'other'. Though thinking about it, I might have got my sample mixed up with Rufus's. If not, I should be able to run a lot faster than I actually can.
I did the DNA test and apparently I'm 37.5% whippet, 12.5% greyhound, 37.5% staffy and 12.5% 'other'. Though thinking about it, I might have got my sample mixed up with Rufus's. If not, I should be able to run a lot faster than I actually can.
Dredging this up to say I finally got mine done and results back. I wanted to do it as my late nan was convinced we had Spanish heritage (for no other reason than she liked Spain when she went there - nutter). She was wrong, obviously. But we do have Scottish which I didn't know about (nan's grandparents most likely). So I'll be drinking more scotch than sangria this summer.
Everything else in there we knew about (dad with his 100% Welsh DNA, I guess his ancestors weren't lookers). The Norway element would be those cheeky Vikings I'd guess?
Anyone had any weird/unknown results back?
Not sure how you only got 48% Welsh from you dad if he was 100%. Ewe need to look into that.
I think that's her overall result not just her dad.
Yeah it says:
"You may not have inherited certain DNA because
DNA inheritance is random, so you don't inherit 50% of your parents' ethnicities
at most, only half of someone’s DNA can be passed down
beyond your parents, the amount of DNA you inherit from ancestors is not necessarily 25% from each grandparent, 12.5% from each great-grandparent, and so forth
your DNA may also look more like DNA from regions near your ancestors' homelands than it does like DNA from their country."
Plus my dad did his DNA with them too and he got 100% Welsh, boring bugger.
Not sure if I’m being thick, does this mean two siblings (with the same parents) could have different DNA results?
Was wondering the same: would the ancestry DNA results for my brother be identical to mine?
If not, and yet we both have the same biological mother and father, how reliable are the results?
For example, if my results indicate that I am 20% Iberian, but his results say 40% Iberian, how much of my ancestry is Iberian?
Dredging this up to say I finally got mine done and results back. I wanted to do it as my late nan was convinced we had Spanish heritage (for no other reason than she liked Spain when she went there - nutter). She was wrong, obviously. But we do have Scottish which I didn't know about (nan's grandparents most likely). So I'll be drinking more scotch than sangria this summer.
Everything else in there we knew about (dad with his 100% Welsh DNA, I guess his ancestors weren't lookers). The Norway element would be those cheeky Vikings I'd guess?
Anyone had any weird/unknown results back?
Not sure how you only got 48% Welsh from you dad if he was 100%. Ewe need to look into that.
I think that's her overall result not just her dad.
Yeah it says:
"You may not have inherited certain DNA because
DNA inheritance is random, so you don't inherit 50% of your parents' ethnicities
at most, only half of someone’s DNA can be passed down
beyond your parents, the amount of DNA you inherit from ancestors is not necessarily 25% from each grandparent, 12.5% from each great-grandparent, and so forth
your DNA may also look more like DNA from regions near your ancestors' homelands than it does like DNA from their country."
Plus my dad did his DNA with them too and he got 100% Welsh, boring bugger.
Not sure if I’m being thick, does this mean two siblings (with the same parents) could have different DNA results?
Was wondering the same: would the ancestry DNA results for my brother be identical to mine?
If not, and yet we both have the same biological mother and father, how reliable are the results?
For example, if my results indicate that I am 20% Iberian, but his results say 40% Iberian, how much of my ancestry is Iberian?
Refer to my earlier post. You have the Same DNA heritage but different combinations/mix thus you can have different ‘quantities’ of Iberian DNA for example. It’s how nature ensures we have a resilient population. Diversity of DNA between even siblings ensures as a population some of us will always survive a plague or supporting Charlton …
Dredging this up to say I finally got mine done and results back. I wanted to do it as my late nan was convinced we had Spanish heritage (for no other reason than she liked Spain when she went there - nutter). She was wrong, obviously. But we do have Scottish which I didn't know about (nan's grandparents most likely). So I'll be drinking more scotch than sangria this summer.
Everything else in there we knew about (dad with his 100% Welsh DNA, I guess his ancestors weren't lookers). The Norway element would be those cheeky Vikings I'd guess?
Anyone had any weird/unknown results back?
Not sure how you only got 48% Welsh from you dad if he was 100%. Ewe need to look into that.
I think that's her overall result not just her dad.
Yeah it says:
"You may not have inherited certain DNA because
DNA inheritance is random, so you don't inherit 50% of your parents' ethnicities
at most, only half of someone’s DNA can be passed down
beyond your parents, the amount of DNA you inherit from ancestors is not necessarily 25% from each grandparent, 12.5% from each great-grandparent, and so forth
your DNA may also look more like DNA from regions near your ancestors' homelands than it does like DNA from their country."
Plus my dad did his DNA with them too and he got 100% Welsh, boring bugger.
Not sure if I’m being thick, does this mean two siblings (with the same parents) could have different DNA results?
Was wondering the same: would the ancestry DNA results for my brother be identical to mine?
If not, and yet we both have the same biological mother and father, how reliable are the results?
For example, if my results indicate that I am 20% Iberian, but his results say 40% Iberian, how much of my ancestry is Iberian?
Refer to my earlier post. You have the Same DNA heritage but different combinations/mix thus you can have different ‘quantities’ of Iberian DNA for example. It’s how nature ensures we have a resilient population. Diversity of DNA between even siblings ensures as a population some of us will always survive a plague or supporting Charlton …
Thanks KiwiValley, yes I follow you.
I just wondered how much to trust the actual percentages you get from those analyses.
I guess they tell you that for sure you have that ancestry, but cannot guarantee you don't have others, which may show up in your siblings' results.
I did the DNA test and apparently I'm 37.5% whippet, 12.5% greyhound, 37.5% staffy and 12.5% 'other'. Though thinking about it, I might have got my sample mixed up with Rufus's. If not, I should be able to run a lot faster than I actually can.
Do you piss in the garden and sniff other men's bollocks? If you do, then that suggests you didn't mix up the tests.
I did an Ancestry DNA last year and surprisingly no trace of Scottish, but I'm 8th generation English so it has been diluted to 'undetectable'. Still surprising though:
53% England and Northwestern Europe
9% Denmark
9% Ireland (Munros originally came from Ireland so that could be it).
4% Wales
1% Sardinia!!
and
24% German!
My youngest responded to that by saying "look on the bright side, we've just won another 4 World Cups!"
I did an Ancestry DNA last year and surprisingly no trace of Scottish, but I'm 8th generation English so it has been diluted to 'undetectable'. Still surprising though:
53% England and Northwestern Europe
9% Denmark
9% Ireland (Munros originally came from Ireland so that could be it).
4% Wales
1% Sardinia!!
and
24% German!
My youngest responded to that by saying "look on the bright side, we've just won another 4 World Cups!"
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Everything else in there we knew about (dad with his 100% Welsh DNA, I guess his ancestors weren't lookers). The Norway element would be those cheeky Vikings I'd guess?
Anyone had any weird/unknown results back?
"You may not have inherited certain DNA because
- DNA inheritance is random, so you don't inherit 50% of your parents' ethnicities
- at most, only half of someone’s DNA can be passed down
- beyond your parents, the amount of DNA you inherit from ancestors is not necessarily 25% from each grandparent, 12.5% from each great-grandparent, and so forth
- your DNA may also look more like DNA from regions near your ancestors' homelands than it does like DNA from their country."
Plus my dad did his DNA with them too and he got 100% Welsh, boring bugger.Your parents effectively put there respective antecedents' chunks of DNA into two soup pots. They then stirred the pots for a bit and then took one scoop from each bowl and lumped it into what you became. Whilst your parents were drawing from the same soup pots for your siblings, lots of different chunks of DNA from the respective soups made it into their scoops.
In total one scoop (50% of you) was taken from each parent but what was in the scoop would have varied from one's siblings. Some one earlier asked why if a father was 100% Welsh why did their child not get 50% Welsh from him.
Answer most likely even though the father had two 'Welsh' parents at least one of them must have had an antecedent from somewhere else. So the father picked up a chunk of that somewhere else in his DNA and by a fluke managed to pass that small part on (the small chunk of non Welsh DNA made it into the scoop he passed on).
I discovered that a second cousin of mine on my mother's side has claimed "whakapapa" a Maori line of decent to a certain Maori tribe. i share the common antecedent with my cousin which would give me whakapapa as well. The tribe he claimed affiliation to accepted his claim without documentary or DNA evidence to support it. He can therefore call himself Maori.
But there's a problem because there is not one scintilla of Maori DNA is in my DNA profile. I have no concerns about being swapped at birth or anything like that as i have my mother's nose(!).
So two things are possible. 1) With say up to 6.5% of Maori DNA in my Mum's soup bowl, it just didn't make it into my scoop. 2) my cousin, who i don't know well at all, is a fantasist. Their have been financial benefits to him identifying as Maori, as well because he secured various scholarships from his tribe.
I have exchanged a few emails with him on the matter and the information he has provided is difficult to line up in a way that makes genealogical and logical sense in terms of various aspects of the story. And you could interpret some of his responses as being a bit evasive. I don't want to be too pushy on the matter as he may cut off communication.
Overall without documentary nor DNA evidence i am inclined to think there is no Maori in our family tree. However i can't rule it out. To add to the 'True' argument my bum of a grandfather who was a drunk and a womaniser and whom my mother didn't know very well had a Maori first name! Very unusual for even Maori to have Maori names back in the day. So there's that.
It all leads to interesting questions about identity. I don't think of myself as Maori, Had not Maori presence in my extended family, apparently have no Maori DNA, but if somehow my cousin lands on irrefutable proof of Maori ancestry - does that make me Maori?
The old nature verses nurture debate i guess.
Though thinking about it, I might have got my sample mixed up with Rufus's. If not, I should be able to run a lot faster than I actually can.
https://petdna.ancestry.com
If not, and yet we both have the same biological mother and father, how reliable are the results?
For example, if my results indicate that I am 20% Iberian, but his results say 40% Iberian, how much of my ancestry is Iberian?
I just wondered how much to trust the actual percentages you get from those analyses.
I guess they tell you that for sure you have that ancestry, but cannot guarantee you don't have others, which may show up in your siblings' results.