One other small tip: if you have an open hearth that's never or rarely used, block up the flue. We have one that I noticed last night had a cascade of freezing air pouring into the room. I've blocked it with some packaging padding and it's made a real difference in this freezing weather. Old crystal palace shirts are ideal for this purpose. If you light fires occasionally, remember to unblock it first, though a room full of smoke will soon jog your memory!
In addition, ensure you put the Palace on the top, with the Millwall in the middle.
One other small tip: if you have an open hearth that's never or rarely used, block up the flue. We have one that I noticed last night had a cascade of freezing air pouring into the room. I've blocked it with some packaging padding and it's made a real difference in this freezing weather. Old crystal palace shirts are ideal for this purpose. If you light fires occasionally, remember to unblock it first, though a room full of smoke will soon jog your memory!
Someone suggested have a string hanging from the packaging so you can see & are reminded.
This may come as a shock, but not all properties have gas. Many flats are electric only
Many rural properties are the same although there is often the option of LPG. We were oil but I'm now 100% electric.
Isn't electric CH less efficient? Unless you're getting the best (and super expensive) options.
This maybe the case Dazz but at lot of people don’t have a choice especially as Bob has pointed out in the rural areas. A mate of mine bought a property with no gas and set a fair way back from the country lane it was in up a long drive. He was quoted £42,000 to install a gas pipe.
Mate of mine who lives in the sticks has just ordered 2000 litres of oil at 86p a litre. Mind he does have 7 acres of land and the River Loddon running through the bottom of his garden so think he can afford it.
Was high inflation in the 70s and 80s more or less reflected in similar wage rises?
With most sectors getting 5% pay rises, if they are lucky, and the thinking that higher wage rises cause more inflation, how are most ever going to get back on track for years, even if inflation does slow down (especially when food inflation is 16%)?
Disregarding the public sector, where obviously the government have to balance the books somehow, is it just greed and profit that more companies won’t give nearer to inflationary pay rises?
Was it fairer 40 years ago? Or isn’t it that simple?
I remember going on strike in 1979 for ten or eleven weeks, over pay. I was on a tiny wage and could barely pay my rent or eat properly. During the strike I got a bit of work in a record shop for a few weeks, (the hourly rate was better than in my tv job and kept me going).
The annual inflation rate in ‘79 was 13.4% & the ITV companies (who were making record profits) made a 9% pay offer. The unions rejected this, wanting 25% arguing that their members' pay over recent years had been eroded by inflation. (Inflation peaked at about 24% in ’75, and wages of course didn’t keep up). Mortgage rates were rising horribly, as I think were petrol prices.
In the end we settled for around 17%. (The one benefit of inflation was that over time your mortgage became less significant.) Give lower paid people pay rises and they tend to spend the extra cash on retail and eating out and drinking. Nice boost for the economy.
Horrendous gap between the rich and poor in this country and I do wonder how those on low wages or limited benefits keep going. Hopefully prices will settle down.
The posts by MIA and Red are shocking to read. I think in general people are unbelievably very relaxed about this unbelievable rise in energy costs but I suspect that attitudes won’t last into next winter. Food prices set to continue to increase even though inflation next year set to decrease towards around 6%. Wage stagnation for some years. Food Inflation and increases in interest rates plus energy costs are seriously going to piss people off eventually.
So just what does it take in 2023 for Joe Public to get a little bit angry about something that is affecting a large proportion of the population? We, as a nation, seem to have become very docile since the 1970s, when having no sugar to put in your tea at work seemed to trigger a mass walkout.
The posts by MIA and Red are shocking to read. I think in general people are unbelievably very relaxed about this unbelievable rise in energy costs but I suspect that attitudes won’t last into next winter. Food prices set to continue to increase even though inflation next year set to decrease towards around 6%. Wage stagnation for some years. Food Inflation and increases in interest rates plus energy costs are seriously going to piss people off eventually.
So just what does it take in 2023 for Joe Public to get a little bit angry about something that is affecting a large proportion of the population? We, as a nation, seem to have become very docile since the 1970s, when having no sugar to put in your tea at work seemed to trigger a mass walkout.
I agree. Perhaps all the empty rage is vented about trivia on the internet and there's no energy left to actually protest about important things in real life.
The posts by MIA and Red are shocking to read. I think in general people are unbelievably very relaxed about this unbelievable rise in energy costs but I suspect that attitudes won’t last into next winter. Food prices set to continue to increase even though inflation next year set to decrease towards around 6%. Wage stagnation for some years. Food Inflation and increases in interest rates plus energy costs are seriously going to piss people off eventually.
So just what does it take in 2023 for Joe Public to get a little bit angry about something that is affecting a large proportion of the population? We, as a nation, seem to have become very docile since the 1970s, when having no sugar to put in your tea at work seemed to trigger a mass walkout.
I don't know if we have given up or if the apathy is that thick in this country people don't bother - the student fees protests in 2010 were a big thing at the time and were reported on a lot but had 0 success and it seems nowadays the government have such a strong stranglehold on the media outlets that protests/strikes get reported on incredibly negatively or barely reported on at times too. Add in that the government is currently actively attempting to criminalise protests tells you, which is criminal in itself imo.
As a comparison - the French are currently striking at a proposed rise of the state pension age to 64 from 62. The state pension age will rise to 68 in 2044/2046 in the UK.
The posts by MIA and Red are shocking to read. I think in general people are unbelievably very relaxed about this unbelievable rise in energy costs but I suspect that attitudes won’t last into next winter. Food prices set to continue to increase even though inflation next year set to decrease towards around 6%. Wage stagnation for some years. Food Inflation and increases in interest rates plus energy costs are seriously going to piss people off eventually.
So just what does it take in 2023 for Joe Public to get a little bit angry about something that is affecting a large proportion of the population? We, as a nation, seem to have become very docile since the 1970s, when having no sugar to put in your tea at work seemed to trigger a mass walkout.
Considering that most people with fuck all, are some home now Tory voters, it won't happen any time soon.
Yes we should be like the French national strike and riots when they don’t like what there government are doing.last week and again next week national strike because there government are wanting to put retirement age from 62 to 64. What did we do when they put ours up from 65 to 67 nothing and what will we do when they put it up to 68. Nothing and the minister that arranged it took early retirement with a golden pension we can only dream about.
It’s not just Tory party either they all do it to us Gordon Brown robbed our pensions when he was in power.
We need to send a message better so they know they can’t just do what they want once they’ve been elected.
The country voted for Brexit have we got it no.
We will be back in eu within years.with higher prices to pay because we left although we never actually did.
The posts by MIA and Red are shocking to read. I think in general people are unbelievably very relaxed about this unbelievable rise in energy costs but I suspect that attitudes won’t last into next winter. Food prices set to continue to increase even though inflation next year set to decrease towards around 6%. Wage stagnation for some years. Food Inflation and increases in interest rates plus energy costs are seriously going to piss people off eventually.
So just what does it take in 2023 for Joe Public to get a little bit angry about something that is affecting a large proportion of the population? We, as a nation, seem to have become very docile since the 1970s, when having no sugar to put in your tea at work seemed to trigger a mass walkout.
I don't know if we have given up or if the apathy is that thick in this country people don't bother - the student fees protests in 2010 were a big thing at the time and were reported on a lot but had 0 success and it seems nowadays the government have such a strong stranglehold on the media outlets that protests/strikes get reported on incredibly negatively or barely reported on at times too. Add in that the government is currently actively attempting to criminalise protests tells you, which is criminal in itself imo.
As a comparison - the French are currently striking at a proposed rise of the state pension age to 64 from 62. The state pension age will rise to 68 in 2044/2046 in the UK.
That’s crazy, especially if you do a physical job. I could have retired at 60, but worked an extra year to boost my pension. Back and shoulder issues meant I wouldn’t have physically been capable of working any longer after that without having had to take regular sick leave.
Genuinely feel for young people. Everything seems to get worse for them year after year. When many of us were growing up in the sixties it felt like life was getting better, all the time, in the words of the song.
I can’t see why anyone would elect someone who’s going to steel your pension and I can’t see why people lol having the pension and retirement taken from them.but if you really don’t mind losing your pension money please send it me I’ll spend it for you might be able to retire early. Dm if you want to fund my early retirement thanks
I can’t see why anyone would elect someone who’s going to steel your pension and I can’t see why people lol having the pension and retirement taken from them.but if you really don’t mind losing your pension money please send it me I’ll spend it for you might be able to retire early. Dm if you want to fund my early retirement thanks
What in the name of god are you waffling on about?
The posts by MIA and Red are shocking to read. I think in general people are unbelievably very relaxed about this unbelievable rise in energy costs but I suspect that attitudes won’t last into next winter. Food prices set to continue to increase even though inflation next year set to decrease towards around 6%. Wage stagnation for some years. Food Inflation and increases in interest rates plus energy costs are seriously going to piss people off eventually.
So just what does it take in 2023 for Joe Public to get a little bit angry about something that is affecting a large proportion of the population? We, as a nation, seem to have become very docile since the 1970s, when having no sugar to put in your tea at work seemed to trigger a mass walkout.
I agree. Perhaps all the empty rage is vented about trivia on the internet and there's no energy left to actually protest about important things in real life.
Relaxed? People not seriously pissed off? People aren’t angry? Empty rage? No energy to actually protest? Are you sure about that?
Striking is a form of protest and there are plenty of those at the moment.
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In addition, ensure you put the Palace on the top, with the Millwall in the middle.
Many rural properties are the same although there is often the option of LPG. We were oil but I'm now 100% electric.
Have seen flats without it, but never a house.
My mistake having owned a flat with gas CH was to forget the ones we viewed and were put off of for not having gas CH.
(The one benefit of inflation was that over time your mortgage became less significant.)
Give lower paid people pay rises and they tend to spend the extra cash on retail and eating out and drinking. Nice boost for the economy.
We, as a nation, seem to have become very docile since the 1970s, when having no sugar to put in your tea at work seemed to trigger a mass walkout.
As a comparison - the French are currently striking at a proposed rise of the state pension age to 64 from 62. The state pension age will rise to 68 in 2044/2046 in the UK.
Striking is a form of protest and there are plenty of those at the moment.