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  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    Hard not to be critical when you help run the best supporters group but I wouldn't have had three guests and wouldn't have asked all three the same question as that took too long and added little.

    But the questions were asked in a professional way. Just felt like we were working through them rather than responding to the responses.

    But it wasn't the stage managed, no criticism, putin style event some were claiming it would be beforehand.

    Thought there was a lot more than 60 there, closer to 100 but I wasn't counting.

    Free food at the end too.

    One thing seems sure, BG believes in his style of play and is going to stick with it.

    Scott = defence, de Souza = midfield, Hayes = attack and set pieces.  Sangaard = Lager, sometimes Cider



  • Free food? Bugger, I left too early!
  • We have an attack/set piece coach?

    Feck me I hope we don’t pay him.
  • Pico said:
    Thanks, CAST. That was great. 

    Could you offer to relay the FF minutes to the faithful next time, please ? 
  • Hard not to be critical when you help run the best supporters group but I wouldn't have had three guests and wouldn't have asked all three the same question as that took too long and added little.

    But the questions were asked in a professional way. Just felt like we were working through them rather than responding to the responses.

    But it wasn't the stage managed, no criticism, putin style event some were claiming it would be beforehand.

    Thought there was a lot more than 60 there, closer to 100 but I wasn't counting.

    Free food at the end too.

    One thing seems sure, BG believes in his style of play and is going to stick with it.

    Scott = defence, de Souza = midfield, Hayes = attack and set pieces.


    I didn't think de Souza's job was team coaching? His original remit seemed more to do with individual coaching

    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/view/6262720a6c8e8/jon-de-souza-appointed-as-mens-first-team-development-coach
  • Ditto what Fanny just posted.

    CAST so impressive, take a bow.
  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,460
    Jac_52 said:
    Hard not to be critical when you help run the best supporters group but I wouldn't have had three guests and wouldn't have asked all three the same question as that took too long and added little.

    But the questions were asked in a professional way. Just felt like we were working through them rather than responding to the responses.

    But it wasn't the stage managed, no criticism, putin style event some were claiming it would be beforehand.

    Thought there was a lot more than 60 there, closer to 100 but I wasn't counting.

    Free food at the end too.

    One thing seems sure, BG believes in his style of play and is going to stick with it.

    Scott = defence, de Souza = midfield, Hayes = attack and set pieces.



    Our set pieces have been appalling this year. Think Ben needs to reassess this if things don't improve.
    Funny enough one of the questions was about how we'd scored no goals from set pieces but 40% had of Barnsley''s goals had come from them.

    Before Hayes could respond Garner said "scored two, conceded one"

    AH agreed it was an area we needed to improve though.

    This was another example of the lack of a follow-up question.

    Clearly if we've only conceded once they aren't all terrible but we're not scoring enough full stop, not just from set pieces.

    Yeah our defending has been fine from them (unlike our defending in open play), we just haven't even remotely threatened from attacking set pieces.

    I can't think of the 2 we have scored from set pieces even including cup games, which is an irrelevance really.

    Maybe he is including Stockleys penalty.

    Let's hope we do see an improvement AKA just get the ball in the box into decent areas / the head of Inniss instead of trying to be cute. 
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,576
    Who hosted?
    A girl/female/woman/lady.
    She was professional, but when she said I've learnt quite a bit about football tonight, a little bit of me was, well I don't know but I think many will know what I'm saying / not saying. 
    Charlotte did ok, but like a lot of Q&A hosts there were too many "This is a good questjon"  "That's a great answer".
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,525
    Really enjoyed it in the main. With only 100 or so there would have preferred pass the mic audience questions to the format they offered, but grateful to Ben, Scott and Anthony for giving up their evenings for the event. 

    There were a few very diplomatic answers from Ben with an underlying frustration on resources. Wish I could remember the specific question, but at one point he answered “you are either given the resources or time to work with what you have got, we are working with time…” Thought that was very telling and as many see it. 

  • Thanks for the notes CAST 

    I thought it was interesting that Ben's family are still in Bristol.

    Presumably from his Rovers days.

    No commute at all to Swindon but a long haul to Eltham so I guess he has a place nearby.
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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    Jac_52 said:
    Jac_52 said:
    Hard not to be critical when you help run the best supporters group but I wouldn't have had three guests and wouldn't have asked all three the same question as that took too long and added little.

    But the questions were asked in a professional way. Just felt like we were working through them rather than responding to the responses.

    But it wasn't the stage managed, no criticism, putin style event some were claiming it would be beforehand.

    Thought there was a lot more than 60 there, closer to 100 but I wasn't counting.

    Free food at the end too.

    One thing seems sure, BG believes in his style of play and is going to stick with it.

    Scott = defence, de Souza = midfield, Hayes = attack and set pieces.



    Our set pieces have been appalling this year. Think Ben needs to reassess this if things don't improve.
    Funny enough one of the questions was about how we'd scored no goals from set pieces but 40% had of Barnsley''s goals had come from them.

    Before Hayes could respond Garner said "scored two, conceded one"

    AH agreed it was an area we needed to improve though.

    This was another example of the lack of a follow-up question.

    Clearly if we've only conceded once they aren't all terrible but we're not scoring enough full stop, not just from set pieces.

    Yeah our defending has been fine from them (unlike our defending in open play), we just haven't even remotely threatened from attacking set pieces.

    I can't think of the 2 we have scored from set pieces even including cup games, which is an irrelevance really.

    Maybe he is including Stockleys penalty.

    Let's hope we do see an improvement AKA just get the ball in the box into decent areas / the head of Inniss instead of trying to be cute. 
    Henry v QPR is one I assume.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Regrettably no question about our very poor disciplinary record, or the yellow cards Garner has received.
    The closest the report mentions is a comparison mentioned by Garner between league one and league two referees.
    I worry that there is an indication there that he is an excuses and blame others manager.
  • Smithy
    Smithy Posts: 1,023
    Basically confirming that Washington would have been the perfect striker for him
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,091
    Who hosted?
    A girl/female/woman/lady.
    She was professional, but when she said I've learnt quite a bit about football tonight, a little bit of me was, well I don't know but I think many will know what I'm saying / not saying. 
    How dare you assume her pronouns 
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,829
    Charlottes great and a lovely person. I’d have gone if I realised she was hosting!  

    Seems like the evening was ‘survived’ with no negative fallout, which given all the fan unrest noise at the moment I suppose will be view on as a success
  • Thanks CAST. I'm glad I read that report as I was starting to form an impression that the Q and A was just a box ticking exercise.
    Shame, as @Henry Irving stressed, that there were no follow up questions, although I guess they wanted to avoid it turning into a grilling.
    So it seems we have to face up to the fact that this project will take time.
    Will the fans be patient if we are not consistently winning games? Who knows. I am not even sure that I have the patience anymore.
    Also, I didn't like that bit about not being given any assurances regarding January window.
    Why not Sandguard? Can you at least look like your heart is still in it.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,829

    Q: How do you plan for each game ?

    BG: We train from Tuesday through to Saturday (not a day off on Wednesday). It is about finding a balance between preparing for the specific opposition but also working on what we can do to affect the game. We have two full-time analysts and two interns who provide visual clips. During a game we can consult our IPad and react to what is happening. We have an IPad with a time delay so we can watch fifteen seconds before an incident occurs. We have to adapt, make decisions and get information to the players.

    Can I have one of these iPads please and put @bobmunro into early retirement:-) 


  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,829
    Q: What are your non-negotiables ?



    Didn’t realise Jake Humphrey was a fan…

    Given Ben’s later answer referencing the High Performance Podcast, I suspect he provided not just the answers, but also some of the questions 
  • Q: How do you plan for each game ?

    BG: We train from Tuesday through to Saturday (not a day off on Wednesday). It is about finding a balance between preparing for the specific opposition but also working on what we can do to affect the game. We have two full-time analysts and two interns who provide visual clips. During a game we can consult our IPad and react to what is happening. We have an IPad with a time delay so we can watch fifteen seconds before an incident occurs. We have to adapt, make decisions and get information to the players.

    Can I have one of these iPads please and put @bobmunro into early retirement:-) 


    Pleased you mentioned that, AFKA.

    Thought it was just me !
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,525
    seth plum said:
    Regrettably no question about our very poor disciplinary record, or the yellow cards Garner has received.
    The closest the report mentions is a comparison mentioned by Garner between league one and league two referees.
    I worry that there is an indication there that he is an excuses and blame others manager.
    Two of my three questions were asked by Charlotte, the third being around disciplinary this season, which was not touched upon post their vetting… I was hoping the mic was going to be passed around, but nope…
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  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491

    Q: How do you plan for each game ?

    BG: We train from Tuesday through to Saturday (not a day off on Wednesday). It is about finding a balance between preparing for the specific opposition but also working on what we can do to affect the game. We have two full-time analysts and two interns who provide visual clips. During a game we can consult our IPad and react to what is happening. We have an IPad with a time delay so we can watch fifteen seconds before an incident occurs. We have to adapt, make decisions and get information to the players.

    Can I have one of these iPads please and put @bobmunro into early retirement:-) 


    its so they can watch it live during the game, then watch the replay on the delayed feed to see a better view of what happened 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384

    Q: How do you plan for each game ?

    BG: We train from Tuesday through to Saturday (not a day off on Wednesday). It is about finding a balance between preparing for the specific opposition but also working on what we can do to affect the game. We have two full-time analysts and two interns who provide visual clips. During a game we can consult our IPad and react to what is happening. We have an IPad with a time delay so we can watch fifteen seconds before an incident occurs. We have to adapt, make decisions and get information to the players.

    Can I have one of these iPads please and put @bobmunro into early retirement:-) 


    It’s a new feature on the latest version of Bernard’s Watch.


  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,874
    edited September 2022

    Q: How do you plan for each game ?

    BG: We train from Tuesday through to Saturday (not a day off on Wednesday). It is about finding a balance between preparing for the specific opposition but also working on what we can do to affect the game. We have two full-time analysts and two interns who provide visual clips. During a game we can consult our IPad and react to what is happening. We have an IPad with a time delay so we can watch fifteen seconds before an incident occurs. We have to adapt, make decisions and get information to the players.

    Can I have one of these iPads please and put @bobmunro into early retirement:-) 


    In the new series of Doctor Who, the Doctor will be fighting Daleks and Cybermen, and helping Ben Garner by using the Tardis to go back 15 seconds and see incidents before they happen...
  • Just read the CAST notes. Garner is from Croydon?! why was I not made aware of this?! Get rid immediately. 
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    Not sure what the club gets out of having to send in questions before hand to a Q and A with Garner so they can be vetted. If they are worried what he’s going to say then they need to ban local journalists as he will give them a straight and honest answer anyway as proved in todays press conference. (Lack of budget)

    Bet Meire wish she had that idea back in the day 
  • Charlottes great and a lovely person. I’d have gone if I realised she was hosting!  

    Seems like the evening was ‘survived’ with no negative fallout, which given all the fan unrest noise at the moment I suppose will be view on as a success
    Are we ever likely to get any negative fallout when the questions are vetted beforehand.

    Putin may as well own us.
  • seth plum said:
    Regrettably no question about our very poor disciplinary record, or the yellow cards Garner has received.
    The closest the report mentions is a comparison mentioned by Garner between league one and league two referees.
    I worry that there is an indication there that he is an excuses and blame others manager.

    Agree. I was very disappointed when he made his cheap dig.  Never liked managers whom always blame officials.  It was a very Mark Hughes trait.