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Picketing the Club Shop
killerjerrylee
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I have spent three months trying to negotiate with Castore so that my new book could be sold through the Club Shop. I offered them an attractive deal whereby they would make £10 per copy sold and the books would be supplied on a 'sale or return' basis. They finally responded and it was no surprise that they do not want to sell the book. (No reason was given). As anyone who has visited the shop lately is already aware, they only want to sell their high priced clothing. I am therefore picketing the shop on match days and will be handed out leaflets. Prospective customers will be directed to the stall in Ransom Walk. It is only a few yards away and will in future be selling my book along with a full range of Charlton memorabilia. Christmas is coming and it will make an ideal gift for your loved ones.
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£10 per copy, sale or return, sounds a great offer to me. If they're that stupid to turn it down, then they deserve to fail. And do you know what, I hope they do. I certainly won't be going in there and I won't be buying any Castore stuff - not that I'm in their target market, I'm a football fan not someone after junky sport-casual wear.
Good luck with the book sales and the picketing, KJL.
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Ridiculous, it’s hardly like your book is competition for the stuff they’re selling.Is it better for you if I buy my copy from the stall rather than Amazon? Happy to do either but I assume Amazon take a big slice of the dosh.2
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I will make the same amount either way. If you buy from the stall opposite the Club Shop, then he will make the £10.se9addick said:Ridiculous, it’s hardly like your book is competition for the stuff they’re selling.Is it better for you if I buy my copy from the stall rather than Amazon? Happy to do either but I assume Amazon take a big slice of the dosh.7 -
Who would ever have thought that we’d see the day when a Charlton club shop would not want to stock such a book.35
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It certainly makes an interesting story. If only we had a fanzine to tell italan dugdale said:Who would ever have thought that we’d see the day when a Charlton club shop would not want to stock such a book.
. I wonder if When Saturday Comes or someone like that might take it up. 2 -
Cool, I’ll buy it from the stall in that casekillerjerrylee said:
I will make the same amount either way. If you buy from the stall opposite the Club Shop, then he will make the £10.se9addick said:Ridiculous, it’s hardly like your book is competition for the stuff they’re selling.Is it better for you if I buy my copy from the stall rather than Amazon? Happy to do either but I assume Amazon take a big slice of the dosh.0 -
Is the book available online?2
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Hmmm.alan dugdale said:Who would ever have thought that we’d see the day when a Charlton club shop would not want to stock such a book.0 -
It’s in the current VOTV!Stig said:
It certainly makes an interesting story. If only we had a fanzine to tell italan dugdale said:Who would ever have thought that we’d see the day when a Charlton club shop would not want to stock such a book.. I wonder if When Saturday Comes or someone like that might take it up.6 -
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Valiant-1000-Volume1-Biographies-Charlton/dp/1739685601Todds_right_hook said:Is the book available online?
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Fucking ridiculous. Never have i felt so disengaged by the club i grew up loving.5
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I have copies for sale in the Museum or you can email me at info@dixiefriedpublishing.co.uk.Todds_right_hook said:Is the book available online?0 -
Appalling - I can’t believe you offered them £10 - that must wipe out your margin ???
But - the wider story here - get the book online, in a way that benefits the author the most - @killerjerrylee perhaps you could ‘guide’ us on that ???
Alongside that - well folks - how do businesses that rely on retail sales fail - easy answer - people stop buying from them - I ain’t saying that Charlton fans not buying from the club shop will being Castore down (although I think they will go the same way as Woodworm in cricket personally) - but it will see them say ‘fuck this, what a bad move to do the Charlton kit’
Fucking madness - you can’t even get a scarf ……
TS has gone from A1 (on the back of big words) to grade A c***1 -
The club shop is so depressing now. My 8-year-old used to always badger me to go in every match. He owns more Hummel-branded Charlton items of clothing than I can fathom. Often I'd get stuff discounted at the end of the season, the sale rack by the door was always a winner. Now? It's just the latest kit, plus stuff like the "Junior Anthem Jacket" - £68 for a shit kids' tracksuit top, with a Castore badge bigger than the Charlton one. Think I'll pass on that!5
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Utterly baffling. What idiot signed this Castore contract that gives them such power. Just ridiculous.
Good luck on the book sales4 -
I am perfectly happy to sell the book direct or through a third party. Obviously I make the most if I sell direct, but it really is not about making money, (although I am not against that!). I just want to get the book in front of Charlton supporters so they can decide for themselves if they want to buy it. The attitude of the Castore Shop just makes no commercial sense. I am sure that my picketing the shop will make no difference to them, but it might just piss them off a little.4
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So how do we buy direct please - via the email you posted ?killerjerrylee said:I am perfectly happy to sell the book direct or through a third party. Obviously I make the most if I sell direct, but it really is not about making money, (although I am not against that!). I just want to get the book in front of Charlton supporters so they can decide for themselves if they want to buy it. The attitude of the Castore Shop just makes no commercial sense. I am sure that my picketing the shop will make no difference to them, but it might just piss them off a little.
If so how do we pay ?0 -
What’s the likelihood Of the following?Castore and Charlton/TS have agreement that a % of profit made in club store is given to Charlton/TS
The club/TS hasn’t paid the debt owed to Castore, so they are refusing to hand over the lesser see. away kit.
Castore refuse to stock anything new/likely to sell well as it would mean profit going to club/TS
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I’m hearing they are going to be selling Zynex electronic medical equipment, getting new stock in, in time for the expected Christmas rush.🤭2
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Email me at info@dixiefriedpublishing.co.uk and I will send you the payment options.Lordflashheart said:
So how do we buy direct please - via the email you posted ?killerjerrylee said:I am perfectly happy to sell the book direct or through a third party. Obviously I make the most if I sell direct, but it really is not about making money, (although I am not against that!). I just want to get the book in front of Charlton supporters so they can decide for themselves if they want to buy it. The attitude of the Castore Shop just makes no commercial sense. I am sure that my picketing the shop will make no difference to them, but it might just piss them off a little.
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Email me at info@dixiefriedpublishing.co.uk and I will send you the payment options.Lordflashheart said:
So how do we buy direct please - via the email you posted ?killerjerrylee said:I am perfectly happy to sell the book direct or through a third party. Obviously I make the most if I sell direct, but it really is not about making money, (although I am not against that!). I just want to get the book in front of Charlton supporters so they can decide for themselves if they want to buy it. The attitude of the Castore Shop just makes no commercial sense. I am sure that my picketing the shop will make no difference to them, but it might just piss them off a little.
If so how do we pay ?
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Doesn't add up.sammy391 said:What’s the likelihood Of the following?Castore and Charlton/TS have agreement that a % of profit made in club store is given to Charlton/TS
The club/TS hasn’t paid the debt owed to Castore, so they are refusing to hand over the lesser see. away kit.
Castore refuse to stock anything new/likely to sell well as it would mean profit going to club/TS
Just a thought
Castore pay Charlton, not the other way round.
Castore run the shop not Sandgaard.
Charlton get a lump sum and then a percentage of sales (at least that has been the case previously) so it's to the club's advantage for the shop to sell as much stock as possible.
Castore haven't supplied other club's shop either so a lot of this is on them.
What we don't know are the details of the deal with Castore.
My fear is that the club took a bigger cash upfront deal and didn't factor in the value of whole package which is the amount of free kit supplied to all the teams, not just the men's first team but the women, all the academy sides, even the community trust.
If they took a smaller amount of free kits as part of the deal that would explain why many of the academy sides seem to still be wearing hummer. Extra kit has to be bought albeit at wholesale, not retail, prices.
Or it could be that Castore have just over committed to too many teams and can't physically get the kits they agreed to supply to Sparrows Lane.
This is not to excuse Sandgaard and his staff. They should have taken more precautions to avoid this situation, should have looked at how high the retail prices were, Castore's track record elsewhere and they should be saying more about what is and isn't happening now but Castore are certainly a big part of the problem.
The club could and should, IMHO, have brought the club shop operation back in house, same with the catering, but I think they saw two cash payments upfront and not having to manage the staff as an easier option.2 -
I don’t like outsourcing and clearly Castore are in a mess, but can you imagine the club in its current state running the shop satisfactorily?Henry Irving said:
Doesn't add up.sammy391 said:What’s the likelihood Of the following?Castore and Charlton/TS have agreement that a % of profit made in club store is given to Charlton/TS
The club/TS hasn’t paid the debt owed to Castore, so they are refusing to hand over the lesser see. away kit.
Castore refuse to stock anything new/likely to sell well as it would mean profit going to club/TS
Just a thought
Castore pay Charlton, not the other way round.
Castore run the shop not Sandgaard.
Charlton get a lump sum and then a percentage of sales (at least that has been the case previously) so it's to the club's advantage for the shop to sell as much stock as possible.
Castore haven't supplied other club's shop either so a lot of this is on them.
What we don't know are the details of the deal with Castore.
My fear is that the club took a bigger cash upfront deal and didn't factor in the value of whole package which is the amount of free kit supplied to all the teams, not just the men's first team but the women, all the academy sides, even the community trust.
If they took a smaller amount of free kits as part of the deal that would explain why many of the academy sides seem to still be wearing hummer. Extra kit has to be bought albeit at wholesale, not retail, prices.
Or it could be that Castore have just over committed to too many teams and can't physically get the kits they agreed to supply to Sparrows Lane.
This is not to excuse Sandgaard and his staff. They should have taken more precautions to avoid this situation, should have looked at how high the retail prices were, Castore's track record elsewhere and they should be saying more about what is and isn't happening now but Castore are certainly a big part of the problem.
The club could and should, IMHO, have brought the club shop operation back in house, same with the catering, but I think they saw two cash payments upfront and not having to manage the staff as an easier option.I’d need to see them run the proverbial whelk stall before I’d be persuaded.4 -
Now who do we know in catering?Airman Brown said:
I don’t like outsourcing and clearly Castore are in a mess, but can you imagine the club in its current state running the shop satisfactorily?Henry Irving said:
Doesn't add up.sammy391 said:What’s the likelihood Of the following?Castore and Charlton/TS have agreement that a % of profit made in club store is given to Charlton/TS
The club/TS hasn’t paid the debt owed to Castore, so they are refusing to hand over the lesser see. away kit.
Castore refuse to stock anything new/likely to sell well as it would mean profit going to club/TS
Just a thought
Castore pay Charlton, not the other way round.
Castore run the shop not Sandgaard.
Charlton get a lump sum and then a percentage of sales (at least that has been the case previously) so it's to the club's advantage for the shop to sell as much stock as possible.
Castore haven't supplied other club's shop either so a lot of this is on them.
What we don't know are the details of the deal with Castore.
My fear is that the club took a bigger cash upfront deal and didn't factor in the value of whole package which is the amount of free kit supplied to all the teams, not just the men's first team but the women, all the academy sides, even the community trust.
If they took a smaller amount of free kits as part of the deal that would explain why many of the academy sides seem to still be wearing hummer. Extra kit has to be bought albeit at wholesale, not retail, prices.
Or it could be that Castore have just over committed to too many teams and can't physically get the kits they agreed to supply to Sparrows Lane.
This is not to excuse Sandgaard and his staff. They should have taken more precautions to avoid this situation, should have looked at how high the retail prices were, Castore's track record elsewhere and they should be saying more about what is and isn't happening now but Castore are certainly a big part of the problem.
The club could and should, IMHO, have brought the club shop operation back in house, same with the catering, but I think they saw two cash payments upfront and not having to manage the staff as an easier option.I’d need to see them run the proverbial whelk stall before I’d be persuaded.
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Very trueAirman Brown said:
I don’t like outsourcing and clearly Castore are in a mess, but can you imagine the club in its current state running the shop satisfactorily?Henry Irving said:
Doesn't add up.sammy391 said:What’s the likelihood Of the following?Castore and Charlton/TS have agreement that a % of profit made in club store is given to Charlton/TS
The club/TS hasn’t paid the debt owed to Castore, so they are refusing to hand over the lesser see. away kit.
Castore refuse to stock anything new/likely to sell well as it would mean profit going to club/TS
Just a thought
Castore pay Charlton, not the other way round.
Castore run the shop not Sandgaard.
Charlton get a lump sum and then a percentage of sales (at least that has been the case previously) so it's to the club's advantage for the shop to sell as much stock as possible.
Castore haven't supplied other club's shop either so a lot of this is on them.
What we don't know are the details of the deal with Castore.
My fear is that the club took a bigger cash upfront deal and didn't factor in the value of whole package which is the amount of free kit supplied to all the teams, not just the men's first team but the women, all the academy sides, even the community trust.
If they took a smaller amount of free kits as part of the deal that would explain why many of the academy sides seem to still be wearing hummer. Extra kit has to be bought albeit at wholesale, not retail, prices.
Or it could be that Castore have just over committed to too many teams and can't physically get the kits they agreed to supply to Sparrows Lane.
This is not to excuse Sandgaard and his staff. They should have taken more precautions to avoid this situation, should have looked at how high the retail prices were, Castore's track record elsewhere and they should be saying more about what is and isn't happening now but Castore are certainly a big part of the problem.
The club could and should, IMHO, have brought the club shop operation back in house, same with the catering, but I think they saw two cash payments upfront and not having to manage the staff as an easier option.I’d need to see them run the proverbial whelk stall before I’d be persuaded.0 -
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I can see all the signs of a future Meal Deal on the horizon, 11 Chips and 4 Whelks £7.00! Bargain!Airman Brown said:
I don’t like outsourcing and clearly Castore are in a mess, but can you imagine the club in its current state running the shop satisfactorily?Henry Irving said:
Doesn't add up.sammy391 said:What’s the likelihood Of the following?Castore and Charlton/TS have agreement that a % of profit made in club store is given to Charlton/TS
The club/TS hasn’t paid the debt owed to Castore, so they are refusing to hand over the lesser see. away kit.
Castore refuse to stock anything new/likely to sell well as it would mean profit going to club/TS
Just a thought
Castore pay Charlton, not the other way round.
Castore run the shop not Sandgaard.
Charlton get a lump sum and then a percentage of sales (at least that has been the case previously) so it's to the club's advantage for the shop to sell as much stock as possible.
Castore haven't supplied other club's shop either so a lot of this is on them.
What we don't know are the details of the deal with Castore.
My fear is that the club took a bigger cash upfront deal and didn't factor in the value of whole package which is the amount of free kit supplied to all the teams, not just the men's first team but the women, all the academy sides, even the community trust.
If they took a smaller amount of free kits as part of the deal that would explain why many of the academy sides seem to still be wearing hummer. Extra kit has to be bought albeit at wholesale, not retail, prices.
Or it could be that Castore have just over committed to too many teams and can't physically get the kits they agreed to supply to Sparrows Lane.
This is not to excuse Sandgaard and his staff. They should have taken more precautions to avoid this situation, should have looked at how high the retail prices were, Castore's track record elsewhere and they should be saying more about what is and isn't happening now but Castore are certainly a big part of the problem.
The club could and should, IMHO, have brought the club shop operation back in house, same with the catering, but I think they saw two cash payments upfront and not having to manage the staff as an easier option.I’d need to see them run the proverbial whelk stall before I’d be persuaded.0 -
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