My biggest concern with him isn’t the talent. It is the complete lack of effort. It would be one thing to be lightweight and to lose out on tackles and 50/50 balls but he doesn’t even try to tackle and backs off almost every contested situation. Simarly he is always late tracking back - not at times when he has made a big run forward but instead when the opponent has possession and we are already back in a defensive position. I know our fans want someone from our academy to do well and by all accounts he is good kid but I have reservations whether signing him makes sense
My biggest concern with him isn’t the talent. It is the complete lack of effort. It would be one thing to be lightweight and to lose out on tackles and 50/50 balls but he doesn’t even try to tackle and backs off almost every contested situation. Simarly he is always late tracking back - not at times when he has made a big run forward but instead when the opponent has possession and we are already back in a defensive position. I know our fans want someone from our academy to do well and by all accounts he is good kid but I have reservations whether signing him makes sense
My biggest concern with him isn’t the talent. It is the complete lack of effort. It would be one thing to be lightweight and to lose out on tackles and 50/50 balls but he doesn’t even try to tackle and backs off almost every contested situation. Simarly he is always late tracking back - not at times when he has made a big run forward but instead when the opponent has possession and we are already back in a defensive position. I know our fans want someone from our academy to do well and by all accounts he is good kid but I have reservations whether signing him makes sense
What nonsense.
Effort is the last thing he lacks.
He tracks back but he's a winger not a full back.
Was going to post this as well, he presses and tracks back very well for a young winger. It feels like we're watching different players. If you see him not tracking back it's probably a tactical move. There have been times in games, especially with Asiimwe at RB, where TC has run past him into his own half then past him again into the attacking half.
quality little player . Still a kid have pati3nce. he's been asked to play in some unusual positions to him. no lack of effort at all. if you want to see a lack of effort look on the other side of the pitch at CBT.
When he's got the ball at his feet and going at the defence he can occasionally be quite exciting. The problem is getting him in that position, as he's as weak as piss and invariably gets bullied off the ball.
Going against the grain here clearly but I don't rate him. No pace, no skill and very weak in a challenge. The only winger I've seem that seems to actively dislike being 1v1 against a defender.
Can put his recent poor performances down to confidence, but he's struggled to even control a ball multiple times in the same match.
He needs loan to LG 2 to prove he's got what it takes imo.
He’s a coin flip to me , as in I’m sitting on the fence . He had some decent early form and looked potentially good but to me he’s been beyond dire in recent times confidence , mojo , whatever has gone missing and there have been some proper hesitant backing off from him in attacking and defensive positions . With CBT as good as gone we need TC to up his game and continue to improve if that’s somewhere else so be it but I wouldn’t be sure he’ll be what we want or he could rip this up , worth a gamble I say .
Clear case of 2nd season syndrome (not helped by changing systems and him being moved around role and position). Happens to most young players. Same with Ness for much of this year. Hopefully some useful lessons are learnt from it, he develops the desired aspects of his game and comes back stronger. A loan may help too. But he's hot great potential and I rate him very highly.
Tyreece is blessed with excellent ability on the ball. He isn’t yet great at the physical aspect of the game and decision making. One he can grow into, the other comes with coaching and experience. His raw ability with the football is undisputed…isn’t it?
Going against the grain here clearly but I don't rate him. No pace, no skill and very weak in a challenge. The only winger I've seem that seems to actively dislike being 1v1 against a defender.
Can put his recent poor performances down to confidence, but he's struggled to even control a ball multiple times in the same match.
He needs loan to LG 2 to prove he's got what it takes imo.
No pace? Seriously?? I'd say stamina and general upper body strength were much more of an issue than his pace.
Going against the grain here clearly but I don't rate him. No pace, no skill and very weak in a challenge. The only winger I've seem that seems to actively dislike being 1v1 against a defender.
Can put his recent poor performances down to confidence, but he's struggled to even control a ball multiple times in the same match.
He needs loan to LG 2 to prove he's got what it takes imo.
No pace? Seriously?? I'd say stamina and general upper body strength were much more of an issue than his pace.
Quicker than the average man in the street, but if we're talking about him being playing in a promotion push next season, then yeah I'd say for a winger he lacks pace
Yes he lacks confidence at the moment, and yes all young players have dips, but his lack of workrate worries me. You can be out of form and struggling, but still give 100%, and he isn't.
Imagine being involved in this shit show. Trying to learn your trade surrounded by a senior team in disarray.
There is talent, but the club is failing him. Being thrown on as some kind of wingback in this kind of game. That's like putting a pastry chef in charge of the grill.
TC is not a wingback, the same as CBT is not. Maybe the next fella in charge will let him play to his strengths, and understand when he should be played to help build his confidence.
Imagine being involved in this shit show. Trying to learn your trade surrounded by a senior team in disarray.
There is talent, but the club is failing him. Being thrown on as some kind of wingback in this kind of game. That's like putting a pastry chef in charge of the grill.
TC is not a wingback, the same as CBT is not. Maybe the next fella in charge will let him play to his strengths, and understand when he should be played to help build his confidence.
I hope you are right but all I see is someone whose touch of the ball always seems to end up with it going to the opposition and ending moves. Watch him closely next time and you will see what I mean. He doesn’t seem able to beat a man any more or put in an effective cross and, therefore, I can’t see how he helps the team in any way given his stature and inability to tackle. My heart sank when he came on as it looked like his heart had sank too. We were clearly weakened by him replacing Tennai Watson who I thought was quite effective last night. TC’s the one player I always feel that way about every time he’s on the pitch. I wish him well but his track record after one decent game long ago is very poor. I’m not sure you can blame someone’s inability to add anything to the team on a manager’s tactics though I accept that playing someone young with low confidence sits with the manager.
I feel for Tyreece and tbh I wouldn't be surprised if he wernt signing that deal as he didn't want to play under Appleton. I don't get the impression that he felt "loved" by him. I think his a player that needs a lot of love, honestly if I was him I'd be signing that deal ASAP, unless he has a cracking agent, i can't see him being awash with offers come the summer based on his performances this season.
One of the many youth players utterly destroyed by Appleton's incompetence and lack of a personal touch. Clearly needed an arm round his Shoulder but Apple's doesn't do that. Assuming he leaves he will go on to decent things imo. Last night I suspect Apples knew he was gone without a win so wouldn't surprise me if he told TC not to defend and to stay high up the pitch as he needed the goal, had nothing to lose and could therefore gamble.
I'm so pleased that under our new visionary regime where we wouldn't settle for mediocrity that we aren't sat here fretting about whether talented academy players would extend their contacts with under 6 months remaining or have to face the alternative of paltry compensation under the regulations. Oh. Is there any good news? At all?
Tyreece is the Youngster that needs the loan not Kanu as so many on CL were saying just 4 weeks ago. I didn't and Daniel should definitely have replaced Ladapo who needs to work hard on his fitness to get up to speed and kanu should've had 25 minutes to make an impact. Problem with CBT gone we do need a wide man even off the bench if full backs/wing backs aren't putting crosses in despite the fact both fullbacks did get forward yesterday even Watson and for those that didn't seem to realize he scored the 2nd goal as he drifted into a great position in the box. Also it was Edun breathing down the defenders neck that caused the own goal from a good ball by May.
Both Deji(again) and Tyreese should go to Bromley on loan as the big man and good guy Andy Woodman will give them TLC and a happy environment to work in.
I feel bad for Tyreece. He's a right footed winger who likes to cut in on his left. He should have spent this season as CBT's understudy improving and getting ready to take over at the point CBT went, which was always likely to be January or the summer. Instead this season he's been asked to play centre forward, 10, central midfield, right wing and now right wingback. I barely remember him actually playing on the left wing. Maybe against Reading in the banter cup? No wonder his confidence has gone, imagine being a 20 year old getting dragged all over the pitch by incompetent managers who refuse to play you in your natural position. Despite that he's contributed two goals and five assists in the league this season, which means he's involved in a goal every 162 minutes that he plays. For a young kid who has barely got a kick in his preferred position that's pretty good, and now we've drained him so fully of confidence and happiness that he'll leave at the end of his contract for a little compensation and join a club that utilises him properly. It's very frustrating to see
Absolutely right about CBT’s understudy. Appleton was slated as good with young players but he has proper fecked things up for Tyreece with us. Good local boy, went to Forest Hill School same place as Joe Gomez. All rather tragic, and shamefully exploitative.
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he has shown glimpses of brilliance and glimpses of 💩. But let's remember his age and this is his first full season as a first teamer.
What nonsense.
Effort is the last thing he lacks.
He tracks back but he's a winger not a full back.
hoe he stays. Will go else where and do very well
Can put his recent poor performances down to confidence, but he's struggled to even control a ball multiple times in the same match.
He needs loan to LG 2 to prove he's got what it takes imo.
He had some decent early form and looked potentially good but to me he’s been beyond dire in recent times
confidence , mojo , whatever has gone missing and there have been some proper hesitant backing off from him in attacking and defensive positions .
With CBT as good as gone we need TC to up his game and continue to improve if that’s somewhere else so be it but I wouldn’t be sure he’ll be what we want or he could rip this up , worth a gamble I say .
"Fcuk off, rasclart"
Sad to see such a good young player go backwards.
Assuming he leaves he will go on to decent things imo.
Last night I suspect Apples knew he was gone without a win so wouldn't surprise me if he told TC not to defend and to stay high up the pitch as he needed the goal, had nothing to lose and could therefore gamble.
We rarely usually lose promising youth players for nothing….shows what a mess we are currently in that they seemingly don’t want to stay.
Hopefully a new manager can help motivate them to stay.
Problem with CBT gone we do need a wide man even off the bench if full backs/wing backs aren't putting crosses in despite the fact both fullbacks did get forward yesterday even Watson and for those that didn't seem to realize he scored the 2nd goal as he drifted into a great position in the box.
Also it was Edun breathing down the defenders neck that caused the own goal from a good ball by May.
Both Deji(again) and Tyreese should go to Bromley on loan as the big man and good guy Andy Woodman will give them TLC and a happy environment to work in.
Appleton was slated as good with young players but he has proper fecked things up for Tyreece with us.
Good local boy, went to Forest Hill School same place as Joe Gomez.
All rather tragic, and shamefully exploitative.
Just maybe a new manager can change things around.
Crying shame.