Bonne seemed to have his supporters at Ipswich when he was there. started like a train but didn’t really push on. Ipswich had a poor season last year and you can’t place everything at Bonnes front door for that. I’m torn on the idea of bringing him back. in the absence of Chuks and Stockley woefully out of form, I think I’d give him a deal until July 24. You can’t place all expectations on Leaburn
Ipswich started very well last season. And so did Bonne.
Ipswich fell away, Bonne's goals dried up.
A Third Division striker is usually only as good as the service he gets.
PWR, so it may have been posted, but Karl Robinson has giving an interview (I know, when doesn't he?) saying they've been looking at 'one of' Wickham and Bonne.
Bonne seemed to have his supporters at Ipswich when he was there. started like a train but didn’t really push on. Ipswich had a poor season last year and you can’t place everything at Bonnes front door for that. I’m torn on the idea of bringing him back. in the absence of Chuks and Stockley woefully out of form, I think I’d give him a deal until July 24. You can’t place all expectations on Leaburn
Ipswich started very well last season. And so did Bonne.
Ipswich fell away, Bonne's goals dried up.
A Third Division striker is usually only as good as the service he gets.
They started worse than us... However Bonne was one of the few bonuses in the first half of the season, despite his goals drying up, he still finished joint top scorer for them last season - Notice he only scored the single goal after McKenna arrived.
Bonne seemed to have his supporters at Ipswich when he was there. started like a train but didn’t really push on. Ipswich had a poor season last year and you can’t place everything at Bonnes front door for that. I’m torn on the idea of bringing him back. in the absence of Chuks and Stockley woefully out of form, I think I’d give him a deal until July 24. You can’t place all expectations on Leaburn
Ipswich started very well last season. And so did Bonne.
Ipswich fell away, Bonne's goals dried up.
A Third Division striker is usually only as good as the service he gets.
It says something about our recent transfer record, that two players we paid fees for are being linked with L2 clubs
DJ has not been a success at Charlton. He's been hampered by injury (aren't they all?), but when fit he has never really looked like kicking on and cementing a place in the team. His transfer fee has not provided value.
Stockley, before this season, or perhaps before his back injury last season, has done fairly well for us. Something has happened to him this season (be it form or physical), which is why he's now being looked at by League 2 teams, and he's always been divisive with fans because his style is not one for the purists, but he scored enough goals last season for his transfer not to be considered a flop or a failure.
It says something about our recent transfer record, that two players we paid fees for are being linked with L2 clubs
DJ has not been a success at Charlton. He's been hampered by injury (aren't they all?), but when fit he has never really looked like kicking on and cementing a place in the team. His transfer fee has not provided value.
Stockley, before this season, or perhaps before his back injury last season, has done fairly well for us. Something has happened to him this season (be it form or physical), which is why he's now being looked at by League 2 teams, and he's always been divisive with fans because his style is not one for the purists, but he scored enough goals last season for his transfer not to be considered a flop or a failure.
Well said, re Stockley.
As you say somethings not right this season but he doesn’t deserve all the stick he’s getting. We were all very happy with him last season and the one before.
A loan, I can't see them paying all his wages, would prove how knackered he is, could be a win for everyone.
They have money now, under new ownership.
I still can't see that we would insist on it, would probably make him the highest paid player in league 2. Maybe 1 or 2 at Salford on more but not many.
It says something about our recent transfer record, that two players we paid fees for are being linked with L2 clubs
It’s this people need to remind themselves of when they say, “we’re only X amount of players away from being able to compete”
Stockley - linked with Gillingham Mansfield - failed deadline day move to Mansfield JFC - Stevenage Gilbey - Stevenage Elliott Lee - Wrexham Matthews - Somewhere in Cyprus Gunter - AFC Wimbledon Pratley - Leyton Orient Leko - back to Brum reserves Pearce - retired
I understand all of these players aren’t ones you might think are good enough. But I think if you look where the class of the last few years have ended up, it tells a very obvious story. Individually and collectively it’s been abysmal. However, I’ve read numerous posts on here over the years arguing for all these players in one way, shape or form being good enough, they just need 2 or 3 more.
I would imagine this time in 8 months we can add Morgan to this list, Kirk, Aneke, Payne, and even CBT.
The only player at the moment who has been part of our team in the last few years (from 19/20 onwards) that has gone on to better things is Maatsen and possibly Millar, although I haven’t been following his career. The facts are undeniable imo. If any of the above had been strong enough, we wouldn’t be where we are, even with a couple of ‘better players’
It says something about our recent transfer record, that two players we paid fees for are being linked with L2 clubs
It’s this people need to remind themselves of when they say, “we’re only X amount of players away from being able to compete”
Stockley - linked with Gillingham Mansfield - failed deadline day move to Mansfield JFC - Stevenage Gilbey - Stevenage Elliott Lee - Wrexham Matthews - Somewhere in Cyprus Gunter - AFC Wimbledon Pratley - Leyton Orient Leko - back to Brum reserves Pearce - retired
I understand all of these players aren’t ones you might think are good enough. But I think if you look where the class of the last few years have ended up, it tells a very obvious story. Individually and collectively it’s been abysmal. However, I’ve read numerous posts on here over the years arguing for all these players in one way, shape or form being good enough, they just need 2 or 3 more.
I would imagine this time in 8 months we can add Morgan to this list, Kirk, Aneke, Payne, and even CBT.
The only player at the moment who has been part of our team in the last few years (from 19/20 onwards) that has gone on to better things is Maatsen and possibly Millar, although I haven’t been following his career. The facts are undeniable imo. If any of the above had been strong enough, we wouldn’t be where we are, even with a couple of ‘better players’
TBF you could do the same thing a year/18 months out with our last two promotion winning teams.
No one would say that Hollands and BWP weren't key players and ended the next season out on loan to lower league teams.
In the summer of 2021 I said all we had to do was replace our 5 worst players with 5 "best" ones and we would go up. We lost our 5 best players.
The squad, bar the left back and center foward issue, is OK. It's the 4, 5 or 6 really good players we haven't got.
Dobson wouldn't be a stand out player in that company, Leaburn wouldn't be relied on, you could get by with Clare as back up right back, it wouldn't matter if CBT missed some chances.
Most of our current players, or the ones you mentioned, aren’t worse than the Docherty, Euell, Benson, Marshall, Lapslie, Reeves, Parker etc etc and some of them are better than Wagstaff, Hayes, Purrington etc.
It says something about our recent transfer record, that two players we paid fees for are being linked with L2 clubs
It’s this people need to remind themselves of when they say, “we’re only X amount of players away from being able to compete”
Stockley - linked with Gillingham Mansfield - failed deadline day move to Mansfield JFC - Stevenage Gilbey - Stevenage Elliott Lee - Wrexham Matthews - Somewhere in Cyprus Gunter - AFC Wimbledon Pratley - Leyton Orient Leko - back to Brum reserves Pearce - retired
I understand all of these players aren’t ones you might think are good enough. But I think if you look where the class of the last few years have ended up, it tells a very obvious story. Individually and collectively it’s been abysmal. However, I’ve read numerous posts on here over the years arguing for all these players in one way, shape or form being good enough, they just need 2 or 3 more.
I would imagine this time in 8 months we can add Morgan to this list, Kirk, Aneke, Payne, and even CBT.
The only player at the moment who has been part of our team in the last few years (from 19/20 onwards) that has gone on to better things is Maatsen and possibly Millar, although I haven’t been following his career. The facts are undeniable imo. If any of the above had been strong enough, we wouldn’t be where we are, even with a couple of ‘better players’
TBF you could do the same thing a year/18 months out with our last two promotion winning teams.
No one would say that Hollands and BWP weren't key players and ended the next season out on loan to lower league teams.
In the summer of 2021 I said all we had to do was replace our 5 worst players with 5 "best" ones and we would go up. We lost our 5 best players.
The squad, bar the left back and center foward issue, is OK. It's the 4, 5 or 6 really good players we haven't got.
Dobson wouldn't be a stand out player in that company, Leaburn wouldn't be relied on, you could get by with Clare as back up right back, it wouldn't matter if CBT missed some chances.
Most of our current players, or the ones you mentioned, aren’t worse than the Docherty, Euell, Benson, Marshall, Lapslie, Reeves, Parker etc etc and some of them are better than Wagstaff, Hayes, Purrington etc.
Yours is probably not an opinion shared by many but I agree. It's the lack of real genuinely quality players that is holding us back much more than strength in depth. Nearly all of them have shown some real quality, that includes Inniss who has absolutely dominated some good strikers, Fraser, Morgan, CBT, Kirk and even Stockley. It's the fact they do it 4/5 times a season, it's simply not enough.
I don't agree we need 13/14 players, we just need the 6/7 that are guaranteed starters every week and we'd comfortably be 10-12 places higher.
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Could this turn into a new single from Craig David!
Ipswich started very well last season. And so did Bonne.
Ipswich fell away, Bonne's goals dried up.
A Third Division striker is usually only as good as the service he gets.
https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=73283&season_id=154
Stockley, before this season, or perhaps before his back injury last season, has done fairly well for us. Something has happened to him this season (be it form or physical), which is why he's now being looked at by League 2 teams, and he's always been divisive with fans because his style is not one for the purists, but he scored enough goals last season for his transfer not to be considered a flop or a failure.
Some fans on here!
Stockley - linked with Gillingham
Mansfield - failed deadline day move to Mansfield
JFC - Stevenage
Gilbey - Stevenage
Elliott Lee - Wrexham
Matthews - Somewhere in Cyprus
Gunter - AFC Wimbledon
Pratley - Leyton Orient
Leko - back to Brum reserves
Pearce - retired
I understand all of these players aren’t ones you might think are good enough. But I think if you look where the class of the last few years have ended up, it tells a very obvious story. Individually and collectively it’s been abysmal. However, I’ve read numerous posts on here over the years arguing for all these players in one way, shape or form being good enough, they just need 2 or 3 more.
I would imagine this time in 8 months we can add Morgan to this list, Kirk, Aneke, Payne, and even CBT.
No one would say that Hollands and BWP weren't key players and ended the next season out on loan to lower league teams.
In the summer of 2021 I said all we had to do was replace our 5 worst players with 5 "best" ones and we would go up. We lost our 5 best players.
The squad, bar the left back and center foward issue, is OK. It's the 4, 5 or 6 really good players we haven't got.
Aribo, Taylor, BFG, Cullen, Beilk
Stephens, Wiggins, Yann, Jackson, Solly
Dobson wouldn't be a stand out player in that company, Leaburn wouldn't be relied on, you could get by with Clare as back up right back, it wouldn't matter if CBT missed some chances.
Most of our current players, or the ones you mentioned, aren’t worse than the Docherty, Euell, Benson, Marshall, Lapslie, Reeves, Parker etc etc and some of them are better than Wagstaff, Hayes, Purrington etc.
I don't agree we need 13/14 players, we just need the 6/7 that are guaranteed starters every week and we'd comfortably be 10-12 places higher.