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January Transfer Window - Jan 2023 (Deadline Day starts page 112)

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  • It wouldn’t surprise me if Bonne is through the door straight away. It’s an easy deal and it makes sense for everyone involved, you would hope TS isn’t around to mess it up. 

    There’s really not much out there for us. 
    How do you know there’s not much ? The introduction of Scott would at least imply our targets are meaningful if not spectacular. I’m sorry but Bonne would be a lazy signing. I’ll welcome him if he comes like anyone else but I’d hope we’re looking higher if I’m honest. 
    There are plenty of strikers out there, but the pool of strikers that are an upgrade on what we have, willing to sign and within our budget is quite small. 

    I don’t want Bonne and I hope we’ve got something better lined up, but this signing feels likely. I’d much rather Victor Adeboyejo from Burton. 
    Tbh I don’t think any of us on here have a clue what pool we’re currently looking in. I’d guess until some new faces join we’ll have to hope that it’s a better pool/barrel than we were previously staring into. 
    I really hope it isn’t Bonne too but I’ll back him if he comes back. 
  • It wouldn’t surprise me if Bonne is through the door straight away. It’s an easy deal and it makes sense for everyone involved, you would hope TS isn’t around to mess it up. 

    There’s really not much out there for us. 
    How do you know there’s not much ? The introduction of Scott would at least imply our targets are meaningful if not spectacular. I’m sorry but Bonne would be a lazy signing. I’ll welcome him if he comes like anyone else but I’d hope we’re looking higher if I’m honest. 
    There are plenty of strikers out there, but the pool of strikers that are an upgrade on what we have, willing to sign and within our budget is quite small. 

    I don’t want Bonne and I hope we’ve got something better lined up, but this signing feels likely. I’d much rather Victor Adeboyejo from Burton. 
    It looks like I’m trying to find fault with your posts but honestly I’m not. My question to you though is how do you know what our budget is and consequently if you don’t how do you know what pool of strikers we’re looking at. All we do know is the club have a quite well respected player aquisition person whose expertise will be over and above peering into the pool of players we’ve recently been associated with. I honestly don’t think he’d have come even if it’s only for six weeks to be scratching around for league two players and cast offs. 
  • Peterborough have made Jack Marriott available.... Good record at this level but stuck behind Clarke-Harris , could be worth a shot? 
  • can't see us doing much business except a few fringe squadies may well go .. best not to panic in the new year, wait til summer then see what is REALLY needed for a promotion push .. hopefully the nice earner from the Old Trafford game will be kept in the safe and then spent wisely on a player(s) 
  • can't see us doing much business except a few fringe squadies may well go .. best not to panic in the new year, wait til summer then see what is REALLY needed for a promotion push .. hopefully the nice earner from the Old Trafford game will be kept in the safe and then spent wisely on a player(s) 
    If we don’t do significant business then that promotion push you mention could easily be from league 2 to league 1
  • can't see us doing much business except a few fringe squadies may well go .. best not to panic in the new year, wait til summer then see what is REALLY needed for a promotion push .. hopefully the nice earner from the Old Trafford game will be kept in the safe and then spent wisely on a player(s) 
    If we don’t do significant business then that promotion push you mention could easily be from league 2 to league 1
    I doubt it
  • We need to do business to make sure we stay in L1. Then build on that in the summer. 
  • Bonne is better than Stockley by a country mile. 

    That's okay as a stop-gap for now while we use the rest of the month to get decent players in. 
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  • True but then use loans rather than load the squad with more surplus for next year, any permanents should be with next year in mind.
  • Fox coming back? 
  • Fox coming back? 
    Starts for stoke so doubt it 
  • Club in talks with a striker and a left back, one is a loan don’t know which 
    Addressing the most needed areas first. You know anything of the quality? Very difficult to get exactly what you need in January.

    Be interesting to see what happens with Sessegnon if we bring in a quality natural left back, as he has been one of the better and more consistent performers for me. 
    Moves to right back hopefully 
    Would be my preference, though I’d have Egbo straight back in when/if he is fit. 

    Sessegnon will likely be gone by the time Egbo is fit.
  • If Charlie Austin is available Id take him 
    Swindon seem to be the favourites for him, suggesting he's not what he used to be
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    No thanks to Charlie Austin. Past it. Had his contract terminated in Australia which has a level of football not much better than non-league in some cases.
  • can't see us doing much business except a few fringe squadies may well go .. best not to panic in the new year, wait til summer then see what is REALLY needed for a promotion push .. hopefully the nice earner from the Old Trafford game will be kept in the safe and then spent wisely on a player(s) 
    Well, that's not what Andy Scott said just a few days ago. If we wait until the summer we may just be in League 2 at that point. 

    Obviously Scott could just be another Southall or Sandgarrd & their mouths are bigger than their wallets. Time will tell but my money is on at least 3 players coming in, all of whom will be better than what we have. If not Andy Scott's reputation will be shot & will limit what job he goes to next. 
  • Austin is nowhere near good enough for League 1 anymore , let him have the return to Swindon. 
  • MarcusH26 said:
    Austin is nowhere near good enough for League 1 anymore , let him have the return to Swindon. 
    I agree but he would still be an improvement on what we currently have!
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  • MarcusH26 said:
    Austin is nowhere near good enough for League 1 anymore , let him have the return to Swindon. 
    I agree but he would still be an improvement on what we currently have!
    According to Swindon Austin didn’t show up today🤷‍♂️
  • Fox coming back? 
    Doubt it. He is playing regularly at Stoke currently.
  • MarcusH26 said:
    Austin is nowhere near good enough for League 1 anymore , let him have the return to Swindon. 
    I agree but he would still be an improvement on what we currently have!
    Yeah maybe as a 20 mins off the bench option type of player. I honestly don't know how this window is going to play out , I think the first couple of signings will say a lot of about if it's more young loans from Prem clubs like the 2 Matt Smith's or if someone has given Scott/Holden a budget to go and really improve things. 
  • Chunes said:
    100% Bonne
    If itvis we'll just have to get behind him.
  • cabbles said:
    cabbles said:
    Frankly there are three quarters of the squad that aren’t good enough to get us out of league one. Tinkering with it this January will hopefully see off relegation but we really do need to hope that there is a change of ownership and that comes with both money and ambition. In my humble opinion this summer needs a turnover of players at around the 16 mark with around 9 being shoe in first teamers. I doubt we’ll get anywhere near close to that and HMS Piss The League is not even out of the drawing board stage.
    Absolutely this.  I still don’t understand why anyone else hangs onto the argument we’re 3 or 4 good players away.  9 shoe in first teamers is absolutely correct, not just 9 squad players.

    the worry I have about Jan as a window is finding that quality that will make a difference long term.  3 examples of Jan signings, last season and the season before.  Mansfield in 2021 was given a 3 year contract, and he’s turned out to not be good enough.  Last year, Aneke and Fraser.  Both given long deals and not good enough to get us out this league.  We’re stuck with all 3 of them.  

    As much as I would like a few new faces in Jan, I really hope that unless we’re signing them from a level above (unlikely), they’re short term deals and we don’t repeat the mistakes of the last 2 years.  We can’t afford to be giving crap players long deals like we have with Stockley, Kirk, Aneke etc etc 

                         AMB
    Sess. O'Connell. NEW.  NEW
    NEW    Dobson.   Fraser.   Rak Saki
               Leaburn .  NEW

    Looks very decent to me if those new players were top quality (like Beilik/Taylor/Aribo style quality).

    Would still leave Wollacott, Egbo, Aneke, McGrandles (maybe), Thomas (maybe) to come back from injury to pad out.  Obviously could always do with more and better but the above would be very decent for the second half of the season.

    AMB has had a couple of decent games, and could indeed go on to be part of team capable of promotion, but it’s way too early to tell.  I think Sessegnon would be better at RB, so agree with putting him there.  I can’t see us strong enough with him at LB, given he’s not left footed.

    We don’t know about O’Connell.  He had a couple of okay games prior to him getting injured, but again, we’ve not seen enough of him to say he’s capable of getting us promoted as one of two CBs.

    Out of the midfield you’ve offered, I’ll take Dobson, but I’m not seeing enough from Fraser or Rak Saki to think they’re capable of promotion.  Fraser hasn’t lived up to the hype and Rak Saki showed early promise, but I don’t see consistency and an end product.  He’s still young, but I’ve had a lifetime of these step-over merchants and very few of them deliver that final, end product on a consistent basis.

    I like Leaburn, I think he has a lot about him so would agree there, but it’s a big ask of him given where he’s given the stage of his career. 
    100% cabbs, Fraser and Rak Saki need to be got rid of and Leaburn is too young and inexperienced to lead the line of a team chasing promotion 
    Not something we have to consider really is it?
  • DA9 said:
    cabbles said:
    cabbles said:
    Frankly there are three quarters of the squad that aren’t good enough to get us out of league one. Tinkering with it this January will hopefully see off relegation but we really do need to hope that there is a change of ownership and that comes with both money and ambition. In my humble opinion this summer needs a turnover of players at around the 16 mark with around 9 being shoe in first teamers. I doubt we’ll get anywhere near close to that and HMS Piss The League is not even out of the drawing board stage.
    Absolutely this.  I still don’t understand why anyone else hangs onto the argument we’re 3 or 4 good players away.  9 shoe in first teamers is absolutely correct, not just 9 squad players.

    the worry I have about Jan as a window is finding that quality that will make a difference long term.  3 examples of Jan signings, last season and the season before.  Mansfield in 2021 was given a 3 year contract, and he’s turned out to not be good enough.  Last year, Aneke and Fraser.  Both given long deals and not good enough to get us out this league.  We’re stuck with all 3 of them.  

    As much as I would like a few new faces in Jan, I really hope that unless we’re signing them from a level above (unlikely), they’re short term deals and we don’t repeat the mistakes of the last 2 years.  We can’t afford to be giving crap players long deals like we have with Stockley, Kirk, Aneke etc etc 

                         AMB
    Sess. O'Connell. NEW.  NEW
    NEW    Dobson.   Fraser.   Rak Saki
               Leaburn .  NEW

    Looks very decent to me if those new players were top quality (like Beilik/Taylor/Aribo style quality).

    Would still leave Wollacott, Egbo, Aneke, McGrandles (maybe), Thomas (maybe) to come back from injury to pad out.  Obviously could always do with more and better but the above would be very decent for the second half of the season.

    AMB has had a couple of decent games, and could indeed go on to be part of team capable of promotion, but it’s way too early to tell.  I think Sessegnon would be better at RB, so agree with putting him there.  I can’t see us strong enough with him at LB, given he’s not left footed.

    We don’t know about O’Connell.  He had a couple of okay games prior to him getting injured, but again, we’ve not seen enough of him to say he’s capable of getting us promoted as one of two CBs.

    Out of the midfield you’ve offered, I’ll take Dobson, but I’m not seeing enough from Fraser or Rak Saki to think they’re capable of promotion.  Fraser hasn’t lived up to the hype and Rak Saki showed early promise, but I don’t see consistency and an end product.  He’s still young, but I’ve had a lifetime of these step-over merchants and very few of them deliver that final, end product on a consistent basis.

    I like Leaburn, I think he has a lot about him so would agree there, but it’s a big ask of him given where he’s given the stage of his career. 
    100% cabbs, Fraser and Rak Saki need to be got rid of and Leaburn is too young and inexperienced to lead the line of a team chasing promotion 
    Not something we have to consider really is it?
    I was talking about next season, the business we do in the Jan window should be done with an eye on next season
  • I think we’ll be paying fees and getting loans. I’d be amazed if we don’t see six players coming in and as many as that going out if we can find clubs willing to take them. That might well be the problem. 
  • Scott will be gone from Charlton in 5 weeks.

    There’s a 10% chance he might find a decent loan or free transfer in that time.

    Bigger issue is the dross we need to get rid of, namely.

    - Stockley
    - Morgan 
    - Kirk
    - McGrandies 
    - Aneke 
    - Inniss
    - Lavelle 


    If Scott can help offload some of them….job well done !

    I also think Leaburn will be sold and the good loanees will go during the window.

    I’m not hopeful much will change unless TS announces a sale of the club in the next few days and the new owners are demonstrably cash rich and willing to spend within the limits allowed.

    Cynic…….Moi?


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    Cafc43v3r said:
    Blimey. When did that happen and what is his injury?
    Ankle. He told my mate at the Bristol Rovers game that he probably wouldn't be running again for around 8 weeks. 
    That’s clever considering he got injured in the game after Bristol Rovers ….. ????? 

    He got injured in November, the Bristol Rovers game was in December...


    .
    He got injured when he came on against Brighton that’s when his latest injury was .. 
    Did you read "ankle" as Aneke?
  • edited December 2022
    BigDiddy said:
    Scott will be gone from Charlton in 5 weeks.

    There’s a 10% chance he might find a decent loan or free transfer in that time.

    Bigger issue is the dross we need to get rid of, namely.

    - Stockley
    - Morgan 
    - Kirk
    - McGrandies 
    - Aneke 
    - Inniss
    - Lavelle 


    If Scott can help offload some of them….job well done !

    I also think Leaburn will be sold and the good loanees will go during the window.

    I’m not hopeful much will change unless TS announces a sale of the club in the next few days and the new owners are demonstrably cash rich and willing to spend within the limits allowed.

    Cynic…….Moi?


    Will Scott be gone ? Yes his current deal was for six weeks but in his interview he hinted it could be longer. I’m guessing that massively depends on the out come of whatever is going on behind the scenes. McGrandles won’t be leaving.
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