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January Transfer Window - Jan 2023 (Deadline Day starts page 112)

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  • Cafc43v3r said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Leaburn, Bonne, Stockley is fine for the rest of the season imo. Especially if we're only playing one striker
    It’s more a question of whether you want to shell out £6k a week (if Salary Sport website is correct) for your third choice striker. The money could be better spent elsewhere really. Not sure how long is left on his contract, but that £6k will be a major disincentive for any club interested in signing him. 
    If you had 18 months on a contract on 6k a week.  Why would you move to good knows where for 2k a week?

    I mean someone like Salford or Wrexham might offer him decent money.  If he sees Chislehurst, or where ever, as his "forever home" he probably needs to see out his contract to pay for it. 

    I don't think there would be the same problem for the likes of Kirk or Lavelle but off loading older players who are from the South East, or have settled there, is a big problem for us.  Hence we are paying a very high % of Gilbey and JFC's wages to play 4th tier football.
    JFC was a permanent transfer. Won't be paying any of his wages.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    Cafc43v3r said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Leaburn, Bonne, Stockley is fine for the rest of the season imo. Especially if we're only playing one striker
    It’s more a question of whether you want to shell out £6k a week (if Salary Sport website is correct) for your third choice striker. The money could be better spent elsewhere really. Not sure how long is left on his contract, but that £6k will be a major disincentive for any club interested in signing him. 
    If you had 18 months on a contract on 6k a week.  Why would you move to good knows where for 2k a week?

    I mean someone like Salford or Wrexham might offer him decent money.  If he sees Chislehurst, or where ever, as his "forever home" he probably needs to see out his contract to pay for it. 

    I don't think there would be the same problem for the likes of Kirk or Lavelle but off loading older players who are from the South East, or have settled there, is a big problem for us.  Hence we are paying a very high % of Gilbey and JFC's wages to play 4th tier football.
    JFC was a permanent transfer. Won't be paying any of his wages.
    Not necessarily. It’s quite likely that JFC would have demanded a compensation payment of the wages he is missing out on by signing permanently for them on a lower wage. No idea if this happened and it wouldn’t have been the full amount but this kind of thing is quite common 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Cafc43v3r said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Leaburn, Bonne, Stockley is fine for the rest of the season imo. Especially if we're only playing one striker
    It’s more a question of whether you want to shell out £6k a week (if Salary Sport website is correct) for your third choice striker. The money could be better spent elsewhere really. Not sure how long is left on his contract, but that £6k will be a major disincentive for any club interested in signing him. 
    If you had 18 months on a contract on 6k a week.  Why would you move to good knows where for 2k a week?

    I mean someone like Salford or Wrexham might offer him decent money.  If he sees Chislehurst, or where ever, as his "forever home" he probably needs to see out his contract to pay for it. 

    I don't think there would be the same problem for the likes of Kirk or Lavelle but off loading older players who are from the South East, or have settled there, is a big problem for us.  Hence we are paying a very high % of Gilbey and JFC's wages to play 4th tier football.

    Jayden lives 5 minutes from Junction 6, M25 so Gillingham would be doable without moving but it is an alarming dip to go from being wanted by Sheffield Wednesday and Portsmouth, 12 to 18 months ago to his present position of losing the captaincy, falling down the pecking order and the 20 goals in all competitions from last season a distant memory.

    Don't think Jayden had any pace to lose so really not sure if this back issue is affecting him this season. Most big forwards that battle have ache and pains as it a fight every match. He has obviously suffered in the 3 up front but even when we have played 3-5-2 he just doesn't look like scoring. 

    He won't want to drop wages and he doesn't want to go up 'North' unless he can use Dale Stephens Satnav.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    NabySarr said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Leaburn, Bonne, Stockley is fine for the rest of the season imo. Especially if we're only playing one striker
    It’s more a question of whether you want to shell out £6k a week (if Salary Sport website is correct) for your third choice striker. The money could be better spent elsewhere really. Not sure how long is left on his contract, but that £6k will be a major disincentive for any club interested in signing him. 
    If you had 18 months on a contract on 6k a week.  Why would you move to good knows where for 2k a week?

    I mean someone like Salford or Wrexham might offer him decent money.  If he sees Chislehurst, or where ever, as his "forever home" he probably needs to see out his contract to pay for it. 

    I don't think there would be the same problem for the likes of Kirk or Lavelle but off loading older players who are from the South East, or have settled there, is a big problem for us.  Hence we are paying a very high % of Gilbey and JFC's wages to play 4th tier football.
    JFC was a permanent transfer. Won't be paying any of his wages.
    Not necessarily. It’s quite likely that JFC would have demanded a compensation payment of the wages he is missing out on by signing permanently for them on a lower wage. No idea if this happened and it wouldn’t have been the full amount but this kind of thing is quite common 
    Exactly what Palace did to allow us to sign Williams and Inniss, I suspect that's what QPR did with Bonne as well.  
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    'End of the world' is the wrong phrase. Stockley saying simply means don't expect to see a forward who offers more on the pitch than off, in terms of a replacement. 
  • Leaburn, Bonne, Stockley is fine for the rest of the season imo. Especially if we're only playing one striker
    You've forgotten to add aneke 😬
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Stockley does OK with crosses delivered from wide positions (Wimbledon away springs to mind) and he is handy defending corners.
    Not so good as a back to goal target man.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    Leaburn, Bonne, Stockley is fine for the rest of the season imo. Especially if we're only playing one striker
    You've forgotten to add aneke 😬
    Given Aneke is available for about an hour each month I wouldn't think his omission changes much.
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,881
    edited January 2023
    Gribbo said:
    NabySarr said:
    cabbles said:
    Re: Leaburn being sold, the current speculation re: a takeover would complicate things, but if it were TS and someone came in with even a bid of £1m, he’s likely to accept it, regardless of if we think he’s worth more.  

    When you’ve spunked as much money as he has, with what I presume is little chance to recoup it, you’ll take every penny you can get 
    Cabbles- : - No chance TS accepts £1m or Leaburn would already be gone.

    Gribbo: - 

    If he sells Leaburn any new owner will say the club is now worth £X million less as you’ve just sold off the best asset and only thing you own that’s worth anything. Leaburn is probably the only thing that TS can use to justify asking for a decent fee to sell the club so he won’t want him gone on the cheap 
    Gribbo: - You think Leaburn is worth £10m? But more to the point, why are you writing in Roman Numerals?

     Vff: - ‘X’ is more of a mathematical type ‘X’ here, Charlton Life at its finest. 

    Cable’s point is a good one re: selling off the family silver to generate funds for the takeover that Lenegan clearly doesn’t have (to convince EFL that there is working capital for a year). 

    Its a gamble, what happens if Lenegan et al. don’t manage to flip the club before the money runs out in a year ? & they’ve sold off what decent youngsters & saleable assets Charlton have. 



  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red Posts: 5,727
    Crawley would be a shout for Stockley if he wants to stay in the area.
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  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    If you look at the numbers  we are struggling to offload it underlines what an expensive catastrophe our recruitment, player analysis and black box nonsense has been over the last two years.

    Someone should be held accountable but won't be because he is the owner's little boy.  

    Pathetic!
    Could probably go back further and include Gallen in that n all
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Gribbo said:
    If you look at the numbers  we are struggling to offload it underlines what an expensive catastrophe our recruitment, player analysis and black box nonsense has been over the last two years.

    Someone should be held accountable but won't be because he is the owner's little boy.  

    Pathetic!
    Could probably go back further and include Gallen in that n all
    Have we actually got any players we signed pre takeover left now JFC has gone?  Morgan signed his last contract under ESI 2, with all sorts of 3rd party ownership rumours/bollocks, but other than that I am struggling.
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,167
    If you look at the numbers  we are struggling to offload it underlines what an expensive catastrophe our recruitment, player analysis and black box nonsense has been over the last two years.

    Someone should be held accountable but won't be because he is the owner's little boy.  

    Pathetic!
    Sorry but I think that's wrong.  MS is head of analytics which means he does the data mining, data aggragation and produces the analysis and reports and then presents those to Gallen, Rodwell (maybe his Dad) and now Holden.  It's those who make the decisions not him (that would be crazy)...but I guess he's an easy target.
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    Leaburn, Bonne, Stockley is fine for the rest of the season imo. Especially if we're only playing one striker
    You've forgotten to add aneke 😬
    I genuinely had completely forgotten about Chucks  :D
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,104
    MarcusH26 said:
    https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/23279768.bolton-wanderers-boss-warns-unexpected-exits-deadline-day/

    Ian Evatts comments sound like Kieran Sadlier could be available.... 
    I have seen his name mentioned in dispatches as a possible 🤔
  • I do wonder if Kieran Sadiler is the cryptic “force” player swisdom is referring to? His name sake - Helen Sadiler is the voice actor for multiple characters in the animated Starwars series. He is also, as stated above in the Bolton news link, A no.10 that has been utilised as a striker although has been playing wingback this season. Although I could be clutching at straws and over thinking this massively!
  • I do wonder if Kieran Sadiler is the cryptic “force” player swisdom is referring to? His name sake - Helen Sadiler is the voice actor for multiple characters in the animated Starwars series. He is also, as stated above in the Bolton news link, A no.10 that has been utilised as a striker although has been playing wingback this season. Although I could be clutching at straws and over thinking this massively!
    We are trying to sign a player from Bolton the day before we play them. The way the club appears to be run, I wonder if we are trying to keep this quiet so that we can play him tomorrow without the opposition knowing our game plan
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596
    According to the Off Piste thread we have already signed.three strikers today. 
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  • Has anyone ever questions where Salary Sport sources it data from? I seriously doubt how accurate it can be.
  • Is it a bad sign when you are just 4 days away from the deadline and there is more activity on the tomato soup thread than the transfer thread?
    Has Andy Scott got the souper phone ready for Tuesday?
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,515
    edited January 2023
    According to the Off Piste thread we have already signed.three strikers today. 
    You mean the Piste Off thread!!.. ;)
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,032
    Sadlier has joined Orient on loan.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,515
    edited January 2023
    Richard J said:
    Sadlier has joined Orient on loan.
    Didn't want him anyway...
  • Richard J said:
    Sadlier has joined Orient on loan.
    Ahh! Looks like Detective Deflected isn’t going to be getting a job at MI5 anytime soon after my previous comment!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    A good coup for Orient. Don't think he would've been much more than a squad player here but will be useful at League Two level.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    @Swisdom any hints, clues or insinuations you want to challenge us with ahead of tomorrow?
  • Hearing Nada Rien is a possibility 
  • Hearing Nada Rien is a possibility 
    I’m more negative than that.