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England Cricket 2023

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  • So that tells me the issues with the top order against the top international sides is nothing new 😞. Fingers crossed they get their act together in this do or die test but I’m not holding my breath.
  • RedChaser said:
    Just out of interest can one of you ardent cricket followers tell me what our best top order line up, openers to number 5, has been in say the last decade or five years even?
    As in pick 5 players from the decade, or 5 who played together?
  • From a completely selfish standpoint I love this rain 😂
  • RedChaser said:
    Just out of interest can one of you ardent cricket followers tell me what our best top order line up, openers to number 5, has been in say the last decade or five years even?
    As in pick 5 players from the decade, or 5 who played together?
    Five who played together I suppose you’d have to go back a long way but either would be interesting.
  • From a completely selfish standpoint I love this rain 😂
    Here tomorrow too, but some friends have come up for the day only so feel for them. Had a lovely meal last night so glad we came up last night despite this boredom of watching clouds now. 
  • RedChaser said:
    So that tells me the issues with the top order against the top international sides is nothing new 😞. Fingers crossed they get their act together in this do or die test but I’m not holding my breath.
    i m o it has often been the top quality oppo fast bowlers as much as lack of technique from the openers .. not often county batsmen face really quick bowling until/if they make the test team
  • RedChaser said:
    RedChaser said:
    Just out of interest can one of you ardent cricket followers tell me what our best top order line up, openers to number 5, has been in say the last decade or five years even?
    As in pick 5 players from the decade, or 5 who played together?
    Five who played together I suppose you’d have to go back a long way but either would be interesting.
    Either way I guess you're struggling for a decent opener bar Cook.
  • apparently despite the fact that no play will occur this morning, a lunch break will still be taken for 40 minutes - regardless of if the conditions are playable.

    Whats the point?
  • RedChaser said:
    Just out of interest can one of you ardent cricket followers tell me what our best top order line up, openers to number 5, has been in say the last decade or five years even?
    Strauss
    Cook
    Trott
    Pietersen
    Root

    3 outta 5 are Saffie, born
    Strauss retired more than 10 years ago I'm afraid.
  • From a completely selfish standpoint I love this rain 😂
    Here tomorrow too, but some friends have come up for the day only so feel for them. Had a lovely meal last night so glad we came up last night despite this boredom of watching clouds now. 
    Due to clear this afternoon apparently, fingers crossed for you.
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  • edited July 2023
    Interesting question of who captains in the next match if Stokes is unable to play. I expect he will drag himself out onto the pitch on one leg if he has to so its probably academic but interesting discussion.

    Vice captain Pope out for the series. I expect Broad to be rested the next match. Root before this match said in an interview "those days are over" when asked about the possibility of him filling in. 

    Does Jimmy do it if he comes back in? Moeen probably has the most captaincy experience albeit in white ball. Crawley? Bairstow? It's too soon for Brook.

    We really are bereft of options.

    Foakes has captained Surrey. Perhaps we could being him in to keep and skipper the side.
  • I wonder which test line up had the highest test average as a team at the time they played. 

    Imagine that is pretty much impossible to calculate 
  • edited July 2023
    Interesting question of who captains in the next match if Stokes is unable to play. I expect he will drag himself out onto the pitch on one leg if he has to so its probably academic but interesting discussion.

    Vice captain Pope out for the series. I expect Broad to be rested the next match. Root before this match said in an interview "those days are over" when asked about the possibility of him filling in. 

    Does Jimmy do it if he comes back in? Moeen probably has the most captaincy experience albeit in white ball. Crawley? Bairstow? It's too soon for Brook.

    We really are bereft of options.

    Foakes has captained Surrey. Perhaps we could being him in to keep and skipper the side.
    Broad or Root are the sensible options but as you say, one might be rested and the other might not want to.

    If Moeen plays he's maybe the other option.
  • I love Joe Root, really do

    I think we are fed lines that he refuses to bat 3 and this one about not being willing to stand in as captain, I think he said "those days are over" to show he has given the current captain and vice captain his full support rather than him refusing to do a role if asked, its totally hypothetical 

    But this is a totally biased opinion 
  • edited July 2023
    Interesting question of who captains in the next match if Stokes is unable to play. I expect he will drag himself out onto the pitch on one leg if he has to so its probably academic but interesting discussion.

    Vice captain Pope out for the series. I expect Broad to be rested the next match. Root before this match said in an interview "those days are over" when asked about the possibility of him filling in. 

    Does Jimmy do it if he comes back in? Moeen probably has the most captaincy experience albeit in white ball. Crawley? Bairstow? It's too soon for Brook.

    We really are bereft of options.

    Foakes has captained Surrey. Perhaps we could being him in to keep and skipper the side.
    if Stokes needs a double amputation (arm or leg, one of each or both) he'll still be there for the rest  of the series .. IF he dies, then Root will be asked to take over as skipper
  • RedChaser said:
    Just out of interest can one of you ardent cricket followers tell me what our best top order line up, openers to number 5, has been in say the last decade or five years even?
    Strauss
    Cook
    Trott
    Pietersen
    Root

    3 outta 5 are Saffie, born
    Strauss retired more than 10 years ago I'm afraid.
    THAT causes a problem .. Rated: 18 England openers since 2012 - can Jason Roy solve problem position for Ashes 2019? (thenationalnews.com) .. not one of those listed have done a good job .. I;ll default to Duckett, ENGLISH born lol
  • How’s it looking up there (those in attendance) 
  • Typical cheating Aussies. Go 2-0 up then bring in the rainclouds to wash out the rest of the series.
  • MrOneLung said:
    How’s it looking up there (those in attendance) 
    Awful 
  • Carter said:
    I love Joe Root, really do

    I think we are fed lines that he refuses to bat 3 and this one about not being willing to stand in as captain, I think he said "those days are over" to show he has given the current captain and vice captain his full support rather than him refusing to do a role if asked, its totally hypothetical 

    But this is a totally biased opinion 
    Completely agree with you. Love the man too. My question was purely hypothetical. I'm sure if the worst did happen Root would be asked and would do the job whatever hos concerns about being pushed onto doing it longer term.
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  • It least we are only into day 3. Even if we get no play today the game is so far advanced that a finish is almost a foregone conclusion. 
  • It least we are only into day 3. Even if we get no play today the game is so far advanced that a finish is almost a foregone conclusion. 
    Yeah supposed to be dry until early evening both tomorrow and Monday so should still get a result.
  • From a completely selfish standpoint I love this rain 😂
    Here tomorrow too, but some friends have come up for the day only so feel for them. Had a lovely meal last night so glad we came up last night despite this boredom of watching clouds now. 
    Given there's no cricket and I'm bored, what did you have for your dinner?!
  • Ok, I didn’t want this much rain! It’s finally dry but not sure for how long!
  • Come on England!
  • Perfect conditions for Jimmy Anderson
  • Perfect conditions for Jimmy Anderson
    What, rain ??
  • Hope the spectators enjoyed their over!
  • Sweepstake then, how many balls bowled before the umpires take them off again. I’m going to go 12
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