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England Cricket 2023

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  • Today looks set fair with the weather forecast, you just know we will be 4 down before lunch, but I still expect cap'n Stokes to get us over the line, but you never know with these pesky dodgy Ausies..
    Wouldn't it be nice to see them get hit everywhere for once and we get there for 0,... wipe the smirky sickly grin off their ugly mugs...ooh I hate those down unders...☝
    Me too
  • Leuth said:
    My biggest fear is that today witnesses the birth of a new #goat. Not this time, Todd 

    I think that if Murphy does become a goat then it could be argued that his "birth" was his very first bowling stint for Australia -  figures of 47-12-124-7 in India out of the home side's total of 400. Lyon's figures were 49-13-126-1 by comparison.

    I hope that we can hit him out of the attack. He does seem to have the control though it remains to be seen whether there is enough turn and bounce for him to counteract any assault.
  • Winviz has us at 75%. I wouldn't go that far tbh. 60/65% would be my guess. 
    Winviz percentages are laughable. I'd have it as 52/48, with England marginally ahead, but not more.
    Why is it laughable? Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't make it laughable.
    How many people genuinely (with their heads) would make England clear favourites, which is what the 75% figure states?

    1) It's a low scoring match, so 251 is higher than all but Australia's 1st innings, and even that was only because Marsh was dropped by Root
    2) High quality Australian attack, and the conditions while better than yesterday are still helpful for bowling
    3) An England batting lineup that's consistently cocked it up this summer
  • Winviz has us at 75%. I wouldn't go that far tbh. 60/65% would be my guess. 
    Winviz percentages are laughable. I'd have it as 52/48, with England marginally ahead, but not more.
    Why is it laughable? Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't make it laughable.
    How many people genuinely (with their heads) would make England clear favourites, which is what the 75% figure states?

    1) It's a low scoring match, so 251 is higher than all but Australia's 1st innings, and even that was only because Marsh was dropped by Root
    2) High quality Australian attack, and the conditions while better than yesterday are still helpful for bowling
    3) An England batting lineup that's consistently cocked it up this summer
    Winviz has taken your points into account and make england favourites. The bookies don't just pluck odds out of the air.

    how was your 52/48 calculated? Plucked out of the air?

    england may have cocked up batting this series but they've cocked up scoring 300+ instead of 400 +. That's a massive plus for me
  • Winviz has us at 75%. I wouldn't go that far tbh. 60/65% would be my guess. 
    Winviz percentages are laughable. I'd have it as 52/48, with England marginally ahead, but not more.
    Why is it laughable? Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't make it laughable.
    How many people genuinely (with their heads) would make England clear favourites, which is what the 75% figure states?

    1) It's a low scoring match, so 251 is higher than all but Australia's 1st innings, and even that was only because Marsh was dropped by Root
    2) High quality Australian attack, and the conditions while better than yesterday are still helpful for bowling
    3) An England batting lineup that's consistently cocked it up this summer
    Winviz has taken your points into account and make england favourites. The bookies don't just pluck odds out of the air.

    how was your 52/48 calculated? Plucked out of the air?

    england may have cocked up batting this series but they've cocked up scoring 300+ instead of 400 +. That's a massive plus for me
    In higher scoring matches
  • 3) An England batting lineup that's consistently cocked it up this summer

    There's some depth in this particular England line up - Moeen and Chris Woakes have made Test hundreds and will be batting at 7 and 8, for that matter Stuart Broad has one as well but that was more of an outlier. Plus Brook, Root and Bairstow are playing on their home ground. If all that fails Robinson and Wood can knock the ball about neither are nervous batsmen. 

    We'll have to see what the bowling conditions are like - it looks like being better to bat today. 

    The Aussie batsmen rarely see the kind of swing and seam movement that we had yesterday. Before the T20 era a lot of them would come over and play a season or two in the leagues and/or have experience playing County cricket in the spring and autumn when the ball moves about. These days that doesn't happen quite as much and too many played like rabbits in the headlights, no feet movement or anything to mitigate the swing. The Aussies who do play in England have a WhatsApp group called "Stevo's gonna get ya" based on how often medium fast swing bowlers like Darren Stevens would scythe through opposition batting in those sort of bowling conditions. 

    England's batsmen have a bit more experience at playing the moving ball, seeing off Cummins and Starc is going to be the key though. 


  • 5 minutes till start of play.
    Strap yourselves in boys and girls it's gonna be exiting whatever the result. 
  • edited July 2023

    Had a laugh at this, Chris Broad got reprimanded by the ICC after sharing about Stuarts record with Warner...😂


  • Why's he reviewed that? Absolutely plum
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  • Could see that was out straight away. Interesting decision to send in Ali at No 3.
  • Ali at 3 hasn't calmed my nerves
  • edited July 2023
    Why's he reviewed that? Absolutely plum
    The usual speculative reviews by the top order batsmen, burning reviews that could be useful later
  • Moeen batting at three - presumably to smash a few quick runs. 

    Brook looks a better batsman at four anyway. 
  • Waste of a review. As out as an out thing from Outsville. 
  • FSLN1 said:
    Moeen batting at three - presumably to smash a few quick runs. 

    Brook looks a better batsman at four anyway. 
    I don't think Brook will be batting at four 
  • Why's he reviewed that? Absolutely plum
    Foakes would have persuaded him not to review it 
  • Under 200 now
  • "This is Zak Crawley's 18th Test at home and this is the first time he's scored at least 20 in both innings."
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  • Ali gone. Need a partnership to chalk off another 50
  • Hmm. That didn’t work so far as experiments go.  Big inning from Roooooooot required. 
  • 60/2.

    Still ahead of the wickets per runs equation. 25 runs per wicket (just about)
  • 60/2.

    Still ahead of the wickets per runs equation. 25 runs per wicket (just about)
    They have our no 7 batsman out. I see it as 59-1 and England ahead (just)
  • Zak Crawley is into the nervous 30s...
  • FSLN1 said:
    Zak Crawley is into the nervous 30s...
    There's nothing more frustrating than the player who looks imperious, but doesn't keep going. 
  • FSLN1 said:
    Zak Crawley is into the nervous 30s...
    Nervous forties now.
  • edited July 2023
    Drinks break.

    81-2 off 18, 170 more required.

    Crawley 40 (52)
    Root 7 (10)
  • FSLN1 said:
    Zak Crawley is into the nervous 30s...
    There's nothing more frustrating than the player who looks imperious, but doesn't keep going. 

    Hopefully today will be the day he does keep going
  • Of the two, Root is definitely the one who looks like he doesn't know whether to stick or twist
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