West Indies all out for 130 in their second innings meaning that they made 280-20 in the match with their 11 batsman scoring a total of 266 in their two innings. Jaiswal and Sharma scored more than that between them in their one and only innings. Absolutely awful. Many associate countries would put up a better fight.
Yup and they beat us 15 months ago...
Indeed. Only four of their current side were playing in that Test. Their white ball side failed to qualify for the World Cup.
The Windies were once powerhouses of international cricket, feared by all. Not one of their team that played against India would get near any of their great sides of the '70s-'90s and only Holder would have any chance of getting into the current Test sides of England, Australia or India. Their infrastructure has diminished and when once the desire was to play for the Windies (and there was fierce rivalry between the Islands to do so), they now cannot compete with the franchise money on offer and one suspects that even the few promising youngsters that are coming through will chase that money. We are starting to see that ourselves but, hopefully, we can continue to make it an attractive enough honour to play for the country. It is so sad to see.
Bar Narine playing T20s at Surrey and Kemar Roach do any of the counties have West Indian overseas this season? I know Sussex were supposed to have Jayden Seales for the start of the CC but he had to have knee surgery instead.
And Narine decided to run off to the States to play in their franchise rather than represent the Surrey in Blast Finals Day.
West Indies all out for 130 in their second innings meaning that they made 280-20 in the match with their 11 batsman scoring a total of 266 in their two innings. Jaiswal and Sharma scored more than that between them in their one and only innings. Absolutely awful. Many associate countries would put up a better fight.
Yup and they beat us 15 months ago...
But 12 months ago, we beat India.
It's a terrific illustration of how quickly 'Bazball' was successful.
Not sure where this goes but anyone going to be following the Blast finals day? Can't see beyond a Hants Surrey final... I'd love Essex to win but Hants have kicked our arse twice this season (tbf so did Somerset). Mind you, get Vince out early we might have a game on our hands
Not sure where this goes but anyone going to be following the Blast finals day? Can't see beyond a Hants Surrey final... I'd love Essex to win but Hants have kicked our arse twice this season (tbf so did Somerset). Mind you, get Vince out early we might have a game on our hands
West Indies all out for 130 in their second innings meaning that they made 280-20 in the match with their 11 batsman scoring a total of 266 in their two innings. Jaiswal and Sharma scored more than that between them in their one and only innings. Absolutely awful. Many associate countries would put up a better fight.
Yup and they beat us 15 months ago...
Indeed. Only four of their current side were playing in that Test. Their white ball side failed to qualify for the World Cup.
The Windies were once powerhouses of international cricket, feared by all. Not one of their team that played against India would get near any of their great sides of the '70s-'90s and only Holder would have any chance of getting into the current Test sides of England, Australia or India. Their infrastructure has diminished and when once the desire was to play for the Windies (and there was fierce rivalry between the Islands to do so), they now cannot compete with the franchise money on offer and one suspects that even the few promising youngsters that are coming through will chase that money. We are starting to see that ourselves but, hopefully, we can continue to make it an attractive enough honour to play for the country. It is so sad to see.
With the WI franchise cricket has been the straw that broke the camels back as opposed to the root cause. When I went out for the 2007 world cup there was already a feeling that they wouldn't produce players like they had in the past.
Athletics, specifically track, baseball and basketball was already taking players out of the system, i use the word system loosely. You can make decent money as a decent baseball or basketball player, if your really good you would make more money than any cricketer ever could.
Plus the scholarships offered by American Universities, never mind the green card, were seen as a great way out of poverty.
Not sure where this goes but anyone going to be following the Blast finals day? Can't see beyond a Hants Surrey final... I'd love Essex to win but Hants have kicked our arse twice this season (tbf so did Somerset). Mind you, get Vince out early we might have a game on our hands
West Indies all out for 130 in their second innings meaning that they made 280-20 in the match with their 11 batsman scoring a total of 266 in their two innings. Jaiswal and Sharma scored more than that between them in their one and only innings. Absolutely awful. Many associate countries would put up a better fight.
Yup and they beat us 15 months ago...
Indeed. Only four of their current side were playing in that Test. Their white ball side failed to qualify for the World Cup.
The Windies were once powerhouses of international cricket, feared by all. Not one of their team that played against India would get near any of their great sides of the '70s-'90s and only Holder would have any chance of getting into the current Test sides of England, Australia or India. Their infrastructure has diminished and when once the desire was to play for the Windies (and there was fierce rivalry between the Islands to do so), they now cannot compete with the franchise money on offer and one suspects that even the few promising youngsters that are coming through will chase that money. We are starting to see that ourselves but, hopefully, we can continue to make it an attractive enough honour to play for the country. It is so sad to see.
With the WI franchise cricket has been the straw that broke the camels back as opposed to the root cause. When I went out for the 2007 world cup there was already a feeling that they wouldn't produce players like they had in the past.
Athletics, specifically track, baseball and basketball was already taking players out of the system, i use the word system loosely. You can make decent money as a decent baseball or basketball player, if your really good you would make more money than any cricketer ever could.
Plus the scholarships offered by American Universities, never mind the green card, were seen as a great way out of poverty.
I can see the riches of franchise cricket attracting youngsters back to cricket, but it won't be to playing for the West Indies.
And to be fair, the whole concept of the West Indies team is a bit of a curio anyway. Can anyone feel the same, playing for a collection of 30? countries, as opposed to someone playing just for their own one?
West Indies all out for 130 in their second innings meaning that they made 280-20 in the match with their 11 batsman scoring a total of 266 in their two innings. Jaiswal and Sharma scored more than that between them in their one and only innings. Absolutely awful. Many associate countries would put up a better fight.
Yup and they beat us 15 months ago...
Indeed. Only four of their current side were playing in that Test. Their white ball side failed to qualify for the World Cup.
The Windies were once powerhouses of international cricket, feared by all. Not one of their team that played against India would get near any of their great sides of the '70s-'90s and only Holder would have any chance of getting into the current Test sides of England, Australia or India. Their infrastructure has diminished and when once the desire was to play for the Windies (and there was fierce rivalry between the Islands to do so), they now cannot compete with the franchise money on offer and one suspects that even the few promising youngsters that are coming through will chase that money. We are starting to see that ourselves but, hopefully, we can continue to make it an attractive enough honour to play for the country. It is so sad to see.
With the WI franchise cricket has been the straw that broke the camels back as opposed to the root cause. When I went out for the 2007 world cup there was already a feeling that they wouldn't produce players like they had in the past.
Athletics, specifically track, baseball and basketball was already taking players out of the system, i use the word system loosely. You can make decent money as a decent baseball or basketball player, if your really good you would make more money than any cricketer ever could.
Plus the scholarships offered by American Universities, never mind the green card, were seen as a great way out of poverty.
I can see the riches of franchise cricket attracting youngsters back to cricket, but it won't be to playing for the West Indies.
And to be fair, the whole concept of the West Indies team is a bit of a curio anyway. Can anyone feel the same, playing for a collection of 30? countries, as opposed to someone playing just for their own one?
It's a good question.
Meanwhile, are you looking forward to the Ryder Cup?
West Indies all out for 130 in their second innings meaning that they made 280-20 in the match with their 11 batsman scoring a total of 266 in their two innings. Jaiswal and Sharma scored more than that between them in their one and only innings. Absolutely awful. Many associate countries would put up a better fight.
Yup and they beat us 15 months ago...
Indeed. Only four of their current side were playing in that Test. Their white ball side failed to qualify for the World Cup.
The Windies were once powerhouses of international cricket, feared by all. Not one of their team that played against India would get near any of their great sides of the '70s-'90s and only Holder would have any chance of getting into the current Test sides of England, Australia or India. Their infrastructure has diminished and when once the desire was to play for the Windies (and there was fierce rivalry between the Islands to do so), they now cannot compete with the franchise money on offer and one suspects that even the few promising youngsters that are coming through will chase that money. We are starting to see that ourselves but, hopefully, we can continue to make it an attractive enough honour to play for the country. It is so sad to see.
With the WI franchise cricket has been the straw that broke the camels back as opposed to the root cause. When I went out for the 2007 world cup there was already a feeling that they wouldn't produce players like they had in the past.
Athletics, specifically track, baseball and basketball was already taking players out of the system, i use the word system loosely. You can make decent money as a decent baseball or basketball player, if your really good you would make more money than any cricketer ever could.
Plus the scholarships offered by American Universities, never mind the green card, were seen as a great way out of poverty.
I can see the riches of franchise cricket attracting youngsters back to cricket, but it won't be to playing for the West Indies.
And to be fair, the whole concept of the West Indies team is a bit of a curio anyway. Can anyone feel the same, playing for a collection of 30? countries, as opposed to someone playing just for their own one?
It's a good question.
Meanwhile, are you looking forward to the Ryder Cup?
😉
Ridiculous comparison. The Ryder Cup as you well know is Europe v the USA. Now if you we're to mix up all the players from both sides it would lose all appeal.
West Indies all out for 130 in their second innings meaning that they made 280-20 in the match with their 11 batsman scoring a total of 266 in their two innings. Jaiswal and Sharma scored more than that between them in their one and only innings. Absolutely awful. Many associate countries would put up a better fight.
Yup and they beat us 15 months ago...
Indeed. Only four of their current side were playing in that Test. Their white ball side failed to qualify for the World Cup.
The Windies were once powerhouses of international cricket, feared by all. Not one of their team that played against India would get near any of their great sides of the '70s-'90s and only Holder would have any chance of getting into the current Test sides of England, Australia or India. Their infrastructure has diminished and when once the desire was to play for the Windies (and there was fierce rivalry between the Islands to do so), they now cannot compete with the franchise money on offer and one suspects that even the few promising youngsters that are coming through will chase that money. We are starting to see that ourselves but, hopefully, we can continue to make it an attractive enough honour to play for the country. It is so sad to see.
With the WI franchise cricket has been the straw that broke the camels back as opposed to the root cause. When I went out for the 2007 world cup there was already a feeling that they wouldn't produce players like they had in the past.
Athletics, specifically track, baseball and basketball was already taking players out of the system, i use the word system loosely. You can make decent money as a decent baseball or basketball player, if your really good you would make more money than any cricketer ever could.
Plus the scholarships offered by American Universities, never mind the green card, were seen as a great way out of poverty.
I can see the riches of franchise cricket attracting youngsters back to cricket, but it won't be to playing for the West Indies.
And to be fair, the whole concept of the West Indies team is a bit of a curio anyway. Can anyone feel the same, playing for a collection of 30? countries, as opposed to someone playing just for their own one?
It's a good question.
Meanwhile, are you looking forward to the Ryder Cup?
😉
The Ryder Cup works because it's an every 2 years team event in what is otherwise an individual sport.
I still can't get used to the Windies bring also rans in World Cricket - apparently it started going downhill when basketball got on the TV there and youngsters saw that as a better bet. Add to that the rise of franchise cricket and you wonder if they'll eventually give up on tests altogether. Very sad.
West Indies all out for 130 in their second innings meaning that they made 280-20 in the match with their 11 batsman scoring a total of 266 in their two innings. Jaiswal and Sharma scored more than that between them in their one and only innings. Absolutely awful. Many associate countries would put up a better fight.
Yup and they beat us 15 months ago...
Indeed. Only four of their current side were playing in that Test. Their white ball side failed to qualify for the World Cup.
The Windies were once powerhouses of international cricket, feared by all. Not one of their team that played against India would get near any of their great sides of the '70s-'90s and only Holder would have any chance of getting into the current Test sides of England, Australia or India. Their infrastructure has diminished and when once the desire was to play for the Windies (and there was fierce rivalry between the Islands to do so), they now cannot compete with the franchise money on offer and one suspects that even the few promising youngsters that are coming through will chase that money. We are starting to see that ourselves but, hopefully, we can continue to make it an attractive enough honour to play for the country. It is so sad to see.
With the WI franchise cricket has been the straw that broke the camels back as opposed to the root cause. When I went out for the 2007 world cup there was already a feeling that they wouldn't produce players like they had in the past.
Athletics, specifically track, baseball and basketball was already taking players out of the system, i use the word system loosely. You can make decent money as a decent baseball or basketball player, if your really good you would make more money than any cricketer ever could.
Plus the scholarships offered by American Universities, never mind the green card, were seen as a great way out of poverty.
I can see the riches of franchise cricket attracting youngsters back to cricket, but it won't be to playing for the West Indies.
And to be fair, the whole concept of the West Indies team is a bit of a curio anyway. Can anyone feel the same, playing for a collection of 30? countries, as opposed to someone playing just for their own one?
It's a good question.
Meanwhile, are you looking forward to the Ryder Cup?
😉
Ridiculous comparison. The Ryder Cup as you well know is Europe v the USA. Now if you were to mix up all the players from both sides it would lose all appeal.
Yours is the ridiculous comparison. That would be like the WI and England swapping players. His point is that Europe in the Ryder Cup is a team drawn from potentially 50 countries, if they all produced good golfers, just like the WI in cricket is a team drawn from potentially 30, although less in actuality.
Not sure where this goes but anyone going to be following the Blast finals day? Can't see beyond a Hants Surrey final... I'd love Essex to win but Hants have kicked our arse twice this season (tbf so did Somerset). Mind you, get Vince out early we might have a game on our hands
And their death bowling too. Wareham hits Bell for 26 in the final over of the innings though she was dropped off the final ball. From 256 to 282-7 in one over.
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The Windies were once powerhouses of international cricket, feared by all. Not one of their team that played against India would get near any of their great sides of the '70s-'90s and only Holder would have any chance of getting into the current Test sides of England, Australia or India. Their infrastructure has diminished and when once the desire was to play for the Windies (and there was fierce rivalry between the Islands to do so), they now cannot compete with the franchise money on offer and one suspects that even the few promising youngsters that are coming through will chase that money. We are starting to see that ourselves but, hopefully, we can continue to make it an attractive enough honour to play for the country. It is so sad to see.
It's a terrific illustration of how quickly 'Bazball' was successful.
Athletics, specifically track, baseball and basketball was already taking players out of the system, i use the word system loosely. You can make decent money as a decent baseball or basketball player, if your really good you would make more money than any cricketer ever could.
Plus the scholarships offered by American Universities, never mind the green card, were seen as a great way out of poverty.
Bairstow has scored 141, so he's effectively -50 for the series.
It's an issue, and a shame they've ignored it for the next Test.
And to be fair, the whole concept of the West Indies team is a bit of a curio anyway. Can anyone feel the same, playing for a collection of 30? countries, as opposed to someone playing just for their own one?
Meanwhile, are you looking forward to the Ryder Cup?
😉
The Ryder Cup as you well know is Europe v the USA.
Now if you we're to mix up all the players from both sides it would lose all appeal.