Does anyone ever think that when commentators give stats they use the wrong ones. Atherton has just said ‘no team has ever won a test at Old Trafford having won the toss and chosen to bowl’. The relevant stat is how many test matches at Old Trafford have been won by the team batting last, who won the toss is irrelevant.
Is englands next test series against the w indies next June? No overseas tests this winter?
It seems we have no matches at all between January and May when we have a random home T20 series against Pakistan. Starting 22nd May in Headingley, which sounds grim.
We’re due to play in India early next year , no dates confirmed as yet .
Does anyone ever think that when commentators give stats they use the wrong ones. Atherton has just said ‘no team has ever won a test at Old Trafford having won the toss and chosen to bowl’. The relevant stat is how many test matches at Old Trafford have been won by the team batting last, who won the toss is irrelevant.
I agree that the latter stat is more relevant but Atherton wanted to see Stokes' reaction to the notion that captains that do choose to bowl first don't win at Old Trafford. That should be qualified with how many have actually done so though.
Does anyone ever think that when commentators give stats they use the wrong ones. Atherton has just said ‘no team has ever won a test at Old Trafford having won the toss and chosen to bowl’. The relevant stat is how many test matches at Old Trafford have been won by the team batting last, who won the toss is irrelevant.
I agree that the latter stat is more relevant but Atherton wanted to see Stokes' reaction to the notion that captains that do choose to bowl first don't win at Old Trafford. That should be qualified with how many have actually done so though.
I see that. I often have the same irritation when they show stats about highest successful run chases but not highest fourth innings scores. I think often it is done to make things look a bit more sensational
Is englands next test series against the w indies next June? No overseas tests this winter?
It seems we have no matches at all between January and May when we have a random home T20 series against Pakistan. Starting 22nd May in Headingley, which sounds grim.
We’re due to play in India early next year , no dates confirmed as yet .
Does anyone ever think that when commentators give stats they use the wrong ones. Atherton has just said ‘no team has ever won a test at Old Trafford having won the toss and chosen to bowl’. The relevant stat is how many test matches at Old Trafford have been won by the team batting last, who won the toss is irrelevant.
Does that mean no team has won at Old Trafford batting last then ?
i guess aussies are banking on lots of rain breaks to get their bowlers a shower and a massage. V risky to go into a 4th test with such a packed series with all seamers.
With lots of rain breaks there might only be three of them bowling at any given time. If Moeen is hit out of the attack or as ineffective as Head might be then we might have one less seamer than them to rotate. They've also had the same ten day break as our bowlers and they don't have to bowl any of them in three or four over bursts as Wood does to be at his most effective.
So Moeen has gone for 17 in 2 overs. At what point does he come back on to bowl? Wood has just finished his second spell so Anderson, Woakes and Broad are going to have to bowl for a good while unless Moeen is brought on again.
Does anyone ever think that when commentators give stats they use the wrong ones. Atherton has just said ‘no team has ever won a test at Old Trafford having won the toss and chosen to bowl’. The relevant stat is how many test matches at Old Trafford have been won by the team batting last, who won the toss is irrelevant.
Does that mean no team has won at Old Trafford batting last then ?
i guess aussies are banking on lots of rain breaks to get their bowlers a shower and a massage. V risky to go into a 4th test with such a packed series with all seamers.
With lots of rain breaks there might only be three of them bowling at any given time. If Moeen is hit out of the attack or as ineffective as Head might be then we might have one less seamer than them to rotate. They've also had the same ten day break as our bowlers and they don't have to bowl any of them in three or four over bursts as Wood does to be at his most effective.
So Moeen has gone for 17 in 2 overs. At what point does he come back on to bowl? Wood has just finished his second spell so Anderson, Woakes and Broad are going to have to bowl for a good while unless Moeen is brought on again.
Another weird dismissal for Marnus , wondering if he's fundamentally changed his technique
I think it's more a concentration thing. Instead of showing the full face, he's tried to work one too square. As Ponting says, in the previous over he had to bail out twice when coming down the pitch and I think that, combined with reaching 50, has caused him to over think things rather than play on instinct. He is as big a thinker about the game as there is but it is that strength over done that seems to be his undoing at the moment.
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