Looking at the forecast I reckon we'll see an hour or two's play tomorrow, and double that Sunday. So 3 to 5 hours play. Hopefully that's enough.
From what I've seen from the forecast tonight I highly doubt it. I even think we might not get any more play.
Sunday is looking so much worse than it was 2 days ago. The rain on Saturday is now doubling back on Sunday & just hanging over Manchester for most of the day.
Looking at AccuWeather, there's better than a 50/50 chance we'll get the afternoon session tomorrow. Sunday it's a 30-40% chance of rain in every 1 hour slot, so on average you expect to get two third of the play.
Obviously they're just forecasts and we're going to need a lot of luck, but I don't think my original estimates will be a million miles from reality.
Looking at AccuWeather, there's better than a 50/50 chance we'll get the afternoon session tomorrow. Sunday it's a 30-40% chance of rain in every 1 hour slot, so on average you expect to get two third of the play.
Obviously they're just forecasts and we're going to need a lot of luck, but I don't think my original estimates will be a million miles from reality.
No issue with the decision making in this test bar the decision to play Anderson ahead of Tongue. Only way we can win is by batting once so we needed to get runs on the board today. But the First Test declaration was plain stupid as plenty of us said on here at the time. Will end up costing us the Ashes…
if two days are lost due to weather, it doesn't make any difference that England didn't declare. We might have reduced our lead by 60 by declaring earlier but Australia could be 150-4 or 5 with the strong possibility that England would have to bat a agin.
In this instance, I don't think the lack of declaration will change the end result
My issue is we never gave ourselves the chance , the window of opportunity today /tomorrow was always unknown but at all times during this week it looked like weekend game time was gonna be minimal … we didn’t bat crazy aggressive Thursday night /Friday morning to push the game on and now that chance has gone of course a draw may have happened even a loss but we never had a chance unless the weather was gonna give us more time miraculously if we needed 120 off 10 overs then it’s still a chance rather than no chance
It's not just the fact that the rain has got to stop. The outfield has to be made playable and by the time that happens the next shower will, no doubt, unfortunately arrive. That said (and this might just be momentum traders) but the draw has in the last hour gone from a low of 1.42 back out to 1.60. We can but hope.
My issue is we never gave ourselves the chance , the window of opportunity today /tomorrow was always unknown but at all times during this week it looked like weekend game time was gonna be minimal … we didn’t bat crazy aggressive Thursday night /Friday morning to push the game on and now that chance has gone of course a draw may have happened even a loss but we never had a chance unless the weather was gonna give us more time miraculously if we needed 120 off 10 overs then it’s still a chance rather than no chance
Shall we shake on the 1.42 and call it a draw
if it was day 4 I would agree but on day 3, we had to get score board pressure runs on the board and bat once
My issue is we never gave ourselves the chance , the window of opportunity today /tomorrow was always unknown but at all times during this week it looked like weekend game time was gonna be minimal … we didn’t bat crazy aggressive Thursday night /Friday morning to push the game on and now that chance has gone of course a draw may have happened even a loss but we never had a chance unless the weather was gonna give us more time miraculously if we needed 120 off 10 overs then it’s still a chance rather than no chance
Shall we shake on the 1.42 and call it a draw
if it was day 4 I would agree but on day 3, we had to get score board pressure runs on the board and bat once
It was affectively day 4 with todays forecast🥴
Happy to shake hands 🤝 on a draw cos that’s what it will be
Doubt we’ll get any play today, even if the rain eases, we still have to wait for the outfield to drain. Think we need 2 more full sessions to do it, but I don’t think we’ll get it looking at tomorrow.
The only reason we are losing this series is because we lacked pragmatism in the first two Tests - declaring in the first one and then batting like idiots when we had our hands round their throats in the second. Because of those mistakes we've gone from the attitude of "we just want the guys to go out and bat the way they want to bat" to actually adapting to the circumstances and doing what we do best when it is the right time to do that. And that is great to see.
As much as we have been the better side, we also have to recognise that we have had the rub of the green up until this Test and the weather - we are at home, we won all four tosses and we mostly had the best of the conditions. So we should be winning with this side and those advantages. The fact we aren't is very much the thing to learn from this series.
The only reason we are losing this series is because we lacked pragmatism in the first two Tests - declaring in the first one and then batting like idiots when we had our hands round their throats in the second. Because of those mistakes we've gone from the attitude of "we just want the guys to go out and bat the way they want to bat" to actually adapting to the circumstances and doing what we do best when it is the right time to do that. And that is great to see.
As much as we have been the better side, we also have to recognise that we have had the rub of the green up until this Test and the weather - we are at home, we won all four tosses and we mostly had the best of the conditions. So we should be winning with this side and those advantages. The fact we aren't is very much the thing to learn from this series.
I think you can add the injury to Nathan Lyon to that list.
Gonna wake up screaming as I recall Pope's shot in the first innings at Lords a few times
My nightmare was Root's innings and the braindead way in which we gave the advantage to a team missing the guy, mid match, who was playing his 100th consecutive Test. It was Root trying to bat in a way that he thought people wanted to see rather than the way that people actually want him to see him bat.
38.4 Green to Root, (no ball)
Gloved to Carey! Green has two in the over! No he doesn't! It's a no ball! Root survives. A huge cheer goes up at Lord's. Bouncer down leg, Root was through the pull shot too soon and gloved it through to Carey but he overstepped
45.3 Starc to Root, OUT
Australia have bounced out three in this crazy passage of play
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Sunday is looking so much worse than it was 2 days ago. The rain on Saturday is now doubling back on Sunday & just hanging over Manchester for most of the day.
Looks awful.
Obviously they're just forecasts and we're going to need a lot of luck, but I don't think my original estimates will be a million miles from reality.
https://www.accuweather.com/en/gb/old-trafford/m16-0/hourly-weather-forecast/53686_poi
Hopefully they are right and the Met Office / BBC weather are wrong...
England 2.4
England 2.94
3.35 England
still it was enjoyable watching us bat
if two days are lost due to weather, it doesn't make any difference that England didn't declare. We might have reduced our lead by 60 by declaring earlier but Australia could be 150-4 or 5 with the strong possibility that England would have to bat a agin.
we didn’t bat crazy aggressive Thursday night /Friday morning to push the game on and now that chance has gone
of course a draw may have happened even a loss but we never had a chance unless the weather was gonna give us more time miraculously
if we needed 120 off 10 overs then it’s still a chance rather than no chance
if it was day 4 I would agree but on day 3, we had to get score board pressure runs on the board and bat once
out and have 2 overs to hit 50?
Happy to shake hands 🤝 on a draw cos that’s what it will be
As much as we have been the better side, we also have to recognise that we have had the rub of the green up until this Test and the weather - we are at home, we won all four tosses and we mostly had the best of the conditions. So we should be winning with this side and those advantages. The fact we aren't is very much the thing to learn from this series.