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  • edited July 2023
    Cafc43v3r said:


    Here here.
    Will we want that to apply when we're losing, and desperate for no light? ;)
  • If England can be out playing football, why can't they play cricket
  • If England can be out playing football, why can't they play cricket

    I did wonder that but on the first hand they aren't running around and there might be other areas of the ground that are a lot more saturated than where they are.
  • The draw is now 1.05. It ain't going to happen today. 
  • Cafc43v3r said:


    Here here.
    Will we want that to apply when we're losing, and desperate for no light? ;)
    I get the tongue in cheek nature of this but yes. Start earlier, finish later, shorter lunch break, less time lost. 

    Obviously I can't comment on what time it gets dark in Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka but start at 10 and play until 90 over are bowled or a later cut off point.

    I don't know what players eat at lunch and tea but I'm guessing they don't go to spoons for a sit down meal. I'm assuming the ground provides sandwiches, fruit etc? Finish at 1 and have 20 mins for a quick snack and change of clothes, rub down from the physio etc. 

    cricket has changed over the years, the rules should follow
  • Fairly sure we're done for the day. Weather has taken away our chance of winning this match, but our mistakes and poor play in the first 2 games have cost us the Ashes. Disappointing as we've bettered them throughout the series.
  • Root's comment have to be tongue in cheek. Just ask him to face Nortje at 9.45 at night and see how keen he is to do so. It is ridiculous how restricted the day's play is but the duty of care is not limited to batsmen. How many times have those that have played the game, at club level, not been able to pick the ball up and gone the wrong way as a result? Take that to international level and there is every chance that you will get one straight between the eyes because you can't see it clearly whether you are the bowler, short cover or midwicket.   
  • MrOneLung said:
    just posting to say - Fuck the day one declaration in the first test


    Yep - I know I keep banging on about it but enough of us said at the time it was crazy and ultimately that's what means we're going to the Oval with the contest effectively over rather than with everything to play for.
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  • MrOneLung said:
    just posting to say - Fuck the day one declaration in the first test


    We still had over 50 runs in the bank and plenty of time to get 9, 10 and Jack.  We should have won that despite the declaration. 
  • MrOneLung said:
    just posting to say - Fuck the day one declaration in the first test


    Exactly, would of at worse got the draw. Which would of still meant all to play for at the oval. Now it's done, I don't think there will be half the amount watching now, me included. 
  • One thing I will never really get - this talk of "retaining the ashes" if  the series ends in a draw. Like, if the series ends up 2-2 are Aus going to be there at the end parading the urn around like they won?  Do away goals count double or something? A drawn series is a drawn series. 
  • MrOneLung said:
    just posting to say - Fuck the day one declaration in the first test


    Yep - I know I keep banging on about it but enough of us said at the time it was crazy and ultimately that's what means we're going to the Oval with the contest effectively over rather than with everything to play for.
    There were plenty of other factors - Stuart Broad bowled Khawaja, only it was a no-ball, we dropped catches, Jonny Bairstow missed a stumping...

    We had to create around 15/16 good chances in that Test just to get 10 wickets. 

    By contrast in this Test we've held all our chances (bar a tough one to Harry Brook late last night) and Australia were bowled out for just over 300 in the first innings and are currently 214/5 in the second. I don't think the declaration is the reason why we lost the first Test. 
  • One thing I will never really get - this talk of "retaining the ashes" if  the series ends in a draw. Like, if the series ends up 2-2 are Aus going to be there at the end parading the urn around like they won?  Do away goals count double or something? A drawn series is a drawn series. 
    That does rather make the assumption that we are going to win the last Test. Hope we do from both the fact that we won't have lost the series and a financial perspective but that isn't a certainty
  • One thing I will never really get - this talk of "retaining the ashes" if  the series ends in a draw. Like, if the series ends up 2-2 are Aus going to be there at the end parading the urn around like they won?  Do away goals count double or something? A drawn series is a drawn series. 
    There's bragging rights both ways with a draw I guess - Australia can say we've held the Ashes for 8 years by the time the next series comes along, and we can say that they still haven't won in England in 24 years.

    I hope we go all out to win at the Oval.
  • One thing I will never really get - this talk of "retaining the ashes" if  the series ends in a draw. Like, if the series ends up 2-2 are Aus going to be there at the end parading the urn around like they won?  Do away goals count double or something? A drawn series is a drawn series. 
    That does rather make the assumption that we are going to win the last Test. Hope we do from both the fact that we won't have lost the series and a financial perspective but that isn't a certainty
    I get your point and making no assumptions about the end result - but I still think it's a valid question to ask if that scenario occurs - how can a drawn series be painted as a "victory" for one side or the other is my point. 
  • One thing I will never really get - this talk of "retaining the ashes" if  the series ends in a draw. Like, if the series ends up 2-2 are Aus going to be there at the end parading the urn around like they won?  Do away goals count double or something? A drawn series is a drawn series. 
    In a word, yes, it's same as in 2019. England's job is to make that victory parade look hollow by winning the fifth Test. 

    The weather forecast for the Oval doesn't look great...
  • Thanks to five sessions being washed out, it looks like the 17th Bazball Test brings its first draw (plus 12 wins, 4 losses).

    A reminder that in the 17 Tests before Ben Stokes and Brendon McCullum took over, England's record was: 1 win, 5 draws, 11 losses.

  • Not keen on trying to rewrite the process because of the circumstances, we all know that the Ashes is a challenge sort of competition, where the prize has to be taken from the holder. Them's the rules.  
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  • looks as though an exciting series now looks to be decided (though there is still one to play) by the English weather .. there might be a serious heatwave in Europe, the middle east and the Americas but in the north it has been as cold as autumn form two weeks .. all just at a time when a bit of g b (global warming) temperatures would have been very welcome in gloomy Mancland
  • looks as though an exciting series now looks to be decided (though there is still one to play) by the English weather .. there might be a serious heatwave in Europe, the middle east and the Americas but in the north it has been as cold as autumn form two weeks .. all just at a time when a bit of g b (global warming) temperatures would have been very welcome in gloomy Mancland

    britain will probably be one of the few places in the world that will get colder due to global warming because the warm air/currents from the carribean that naturally drift towards us are being disrupted. 
  • be interesting to find out home much water the omnipresent bucket hats hold .. 
  • The frustrating thing is it feels like England should be winning 2-1, not losing.
  • Should have had it here in Romford. Three loads of washing done and dried in the garden today. 
  • The frustrating thing is it feels like England should be winning 2-1, not losing.
    Yep, feels like we've cost ourselves the Ashes. Disappointing. 
  • Last time England won vs Australia per venue:

    - Headingley: 2023
    - The Oval: 2019
    - Trent Bridge: 2015
    - Edgbaston: 2015
    - Sophia Gardens: 2015
    - Riverside Ground: 2013
    - Lord’s: 2013
    - Old Trafford: 1981
  • We should finish off the fourth Test on day one at the Oval, before starting the fifth Test on day two. 
  • Chizz said:
    We should finish off the fourth Test on day one at the Oval, before starting the fifth Test on day two. 
    Isn’t it due to rain on day one of Oval?
  • Chizz said:
    We should finish off the fourth Test on day one at the Oval, before starting the fifth Test on day two. 
    Isn’t it due to rain on day one of Oval?
    Shift day one at the Oval up the road to the O2
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