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  • Reply to our Scottish friend on the IOW.
    Silly Billy.

    1. It wasn't clear before this series that this was one too many for Anderson.
    Jimmy had a groin issue so this may have affected his prep for this Ashes.
    2. Finding an England spinner for the ashes after the injury to Leech is similar to Cafc trying to find a Left footed Left back. 
    3. Disengenuos to say Bairstow was picked because he's a mate. Foakes is better with the gloves but Bairstow had 3 scores of over 70 in this Ashes which was a record for an English keeper. Personally thought Bairstow would only play for England as a batsman if there was a vacancy not with the gloves.
    4. Interesting debate on Stokes where it was clear that he wouldn't bowl much. If his bowling career is coming to a end then does he try to build big innings from 3 or is that position still Ollie Pope's when fit.

    England is an old boys club ?
    In times past Crawley would've been banished back to Kent (hooray) with his 28 average( before this series) and wouldn't have been around now to average 55 in this series and show his sublime skill and only the obdurate Khawaja is ahead of him in the runs accumulated.
  • just got home after abandoning the oval when it started pissing it down. We looked pretty toothless until wood came on, why did it take a whole session for stokes to turn to wood? Especially when moeen clearly couldn't bowl. Anderson really looked like an average medium pacer.
  • 3 days watching the Ashes this summer, all 3 rain affected.

    I seem to have brought the Kent cloud with me...
  • MarcusH26 said:
    I'll be interested to see who goes to India in terms of spinners. I'm assuming no Leach given it was a stress fracture and we've seen enough of the likes of Bess to know what he does 
    Rehan, Jacks, Dawson is who I would take. I'd also take Moriarty but maybe I'm biased.
  • India isn't until next January(?), surely Leach will be back by then?
  • MarcusH26 said:
    I'll be interested to see who goes to India in terms of spinners. I'm assuming no Leach given it was a stress fracture and we've seen enough of the likes of Bess to know what he does 
    Rehan, Jacks, Dawson is who I would take. I'd also take Moriarty but maybe I'm biased.

    Really? I'm surprised you haven't just said you'd take Jacks, Moriarty and Virdi  :)  
  • Jacks? God help us 
  • just got home after abandoning the oval when it started pissing it down. We looked pretty toothless until wood came on, why did it take a whole session for stokes to turn to wood? Especially when moeen clearly couldn't bowl. Anderson really looked like an average medium pacer.
    The said on (Sky) commentary that they were waiting for the lacquer to come off the ball before giving it to Wood. It had been noticed on previous innings that after 40 odd overs the ball begun to swing more & wanted Wood to have a crack with it then. 

    I think thats what they said. Either that or as it became older it didnt swing as much & Wood's pace would be better. Wasn't really listening at that point as our bowling attack was about as potent as CAFC's forward line. 

    In any case they were pretty spot on with the time/overs bowled when the ball was eventually given to Wood. Just a shame their openers had both made fifty & were well set by that time.
  • 3 days watching the Ashes this summer, all 3 rain affected.

    I seem to have brought the Kent cloud with me...
    Are you going tomorrow? Asking for a friend who is thinking of backing the draw.
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  • edited July 2023
    MarcusH26 said:
    I'll be interested to see who goes to India in terms of spinners. I'm assuming no Leach given it was a stress fracture and we've seen enough of the likes of Bess to know what he does 
    Rehan, Jacks, Dawson is who I would take. I'd also take Moriarty but maybe I'm biased.

    Really? I'm surprised you haven't just said you'd take Jacks, Moriarty and Virdi  :)  
    Have you seen Virdi bowl in the last couple years! 

    Besides Moriarty (probably) will be a Yorkshire player by the time this tour comes around.
  • Leuth said:
    Jacks? God help us 
    As the 2nd spinner in a side who needs to be able to bay then I don't see we have too many better options than him.
  • edited July 2023
    MarcusH26 said:
    I'll be interested to see who goes to India in terms of spinners. I'm assuming no Leach given it was a stress fracture and we've seen enough of the likes of Bess to know what he does 
    Rehan, Jacks, Dawson is who I would take. I'd also take Moriarty but maybe I'm biased.

    Really? I'm surprised you haven't just said you'd take Jacks, Moriarty and Virdi  :)  
    Have you seen Virdi bowl in the last couple years!
    I have - on a live stream playing for Surrey 2s against Kent. He picked up 12 wickets. But so does everyone against Kent! Apart from Moriarty who only took 3 wickets.
  • MarcusH26 said:
    I'll be interested to see who goes to India in terms of spinners. I'm assuming no Leach given it was a stress fracture and we've seen enough of the likes of Bess to know what he does 
    Rehan, Jacks, Dawson is who I would take. I'd also take Moriarty but maybe I'm biased.

    Really? I'm surprised you haven't just said you'd take Jacks, Moriarty and Virdi  :)  
    Have you seen Virdi bowl in the last couple years!
    I have - on a live stream playing for Surrey 2s against Kent. He picked up 12 wickets. But so does everyone against Kent! Apart from Moriarty who only took 3 wickets.
    Hes done better in the 2s this season than he has in the last 2 seasons but he is still a shadow of the bowler he was a few years back.
  • just got home after abandoning the oval when it started pissing it down. We looked pretty toothless until wood came on, why did it take a whole session for stokes to turn to wood? Especially when moeen clearly couldn't bowl. Anderson really looked like an average medium pacer.
    The said on (Sky) commentary that they were waiting for the lacquer to come off the ball before giving it to Wood. It had been noticed on previous innings that after 40 odd overs the ball begun to swing more & wanted Wood to have a crack with it then. 

    I think thats what they said. Either that or as it became older it didnt swing as much & Wood's pace would be better. Wasn't really listening at that point as our bowling attack was about as potent as CAFC's forward line. 

    In any case they were pretty spot on with the time/overs bowled when the ball was eventually given to Wood. Just a shame their openers had both made fifty & were well set by that time.
    Which is bizarre, as surely you'd give him a short spell in the 10th over say, then bring him back later on.

    And there won't be an reverse swing out there anyway as it's too wet.
  • 3 days watching the Ashes this summer, all 3 rain affected.

    I seem to have brought the Kent cloud with me...
    Are you going tomorrow? Asking for a friend who is thinking of backing the draw.
    Yes...
  • just got home after abandoning the oval when it started pissing it down. We looked pretty toothless until wood came on, why did it take a whole session for stokes to turn to wood? Especially when moeen clearly couldn't bowl. Anderson really looked like an average medium pacer.
    The said on (Sky) commentary that they were waiting for the lacquer to come off the ball before giving it to Wood. It had been noticed on previous innings that after 40 odd overs the ball begun to swing more & wanted Wood to have a crack with it then. 

    I think thats what they said. Either that or as it became older it didnt swing as much & Wood's pace would be better. Wasn't really listening at that point as our bowling attack was about as potent as CAFC's forward line. 

    In any case they were pretty spot on with the time/overs bowled when the ball was eventually given to Wood. Just a shame their openers had both made fifty & were well set by that time.
    Which is bizarre, as surely you'd give him a short spell in the 10th over say, then bring him back later on.

    And there won't be an reverse swing out there anyway as it's too wet.
    As you say utterly bizarre as are many of the Stokes/McCallum decisions. If Root had made so many bad decisions there would have been calls for his head. 
  • Three of us went today and we all thought Wood should have been on first change and that's because he obviously should have.

    As I've said before poor decision making has cost us The Ashes, by the selecters, manager & captain. (yes there were other  reasons). 
  • /killerandflash said:
    3 days watching the Ashes this summer, all 3 rain affected.

    I seem to have brought the Kent cloud with me...
    Are you going tomorrow? Asking for a friend who is thinking of backing the draw.
    Yes...
    Thanks. I'll tell my friend. 
  • Don't know what it's like at The Oval, but it's been raining for an hour in north London. 
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  • Forecast looks ok with a few showers possible throughout the day, so we should get the majority of overs in hopefully. I'm feeling confident... It'll probably be close but I think we'll get the win to draw the series.

    It's a shame the 4th test was washed out, this could've been a huge day.
  • I’m afraid I can add no hope from the south of the Isle of Wight as it is pissing down and blowing a hoolie!!
  • Should be good bowling conditions at least - here's hoping the attack can fire properly today.
  • In Berkshire where it stopped raining about an hour and a half ago. Wind is from the west today, so hopeful play will start on time.
  • Should be good bowling conditions at least - here's hoping the attack can fire properly today.
    If the ball gets wet, it won't help the spinners. And ruin any chance of reverse swing, so it's pros and cons
  • Not sure if it is great bowling conditions unless the damp has got into the wicket. England looked very unthreatening yesterday and need a bit of inspiration first up 
  • Light rain, bowlers run up at the Vauxhall end still covered 
  • Annoying shower, but it's stopped and there's a hint of sunshine 
  • edited July 2023
    (A)

    Stokes can't bowl
    Moeen can't bowl properly
    Anderson can't get the ball to do beat anything
    Wood can't bowl because he's suffering from the rigours of this being his third Test on the trot
    Broad stopped playing on Saturday
    Woakes is too nice a bloke to ruin Australia's day

    or

    (B)

    Stokes will bowl if it means turning the game
    Moeen was playing football so he's 100% good and will turn the ball square
    Anderson will show everyone what they've been missing this series
    Wood was saving himself yesterday just for today
    Broad will take us to this final win with one of his famous Ashes spells
    Woakes will summon his inner nastiness to ruin Australia's day

    No "ifs" or "buts", It just has to be (B) on what is the last day of Test cricket of the summer for us all


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