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Macauley Bonne - now at Southend (p29)

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  • He could’ve come here and repeated the performances he put in during our championship season, which were imo, okay given his return and the fact he had stepped up from non league.  He’s lost his way since leaving us.  I don’t really care about his past comments or this ‘like’, because I very much doubt he’ll be here next season.  Not sure why Holden wants to make it public that he’ll be talking to Bonne about this.  Non story 
  • cabbles said:
    He could’ve come here and repeated the performances he put in during our championship season, which were imo, okay given his return and the fact he had stepped up from non league.  He’s lost his way since leaving us.  I don’t really care about his past comments or this ‘like’, because I very much doubt he’ll be here next season.  Not sure why Holden wants to make it public that he’ll be talking to Bonne about this.  Non story 
    He would have been directly asked about it, so had to answer and they've then taken that soundbite. Holden hasn't gone out of his way to mention it
  • Is Gallen still at the club ?
    he was glued to MS (or vice versa) in directors box pre Christmas every home game , maybe a bit of Jan but since then I’ve not seen him at all 
    is he still around 🤷‍♂️ does anyone know 

  • You're either for us or against us.  Bonne evidently ain't for us - I'd sack him.


  • Fraser laughing with their players after is more annoying, both planks though 
    At least fraser knows how to play football. I don't understand why bonne is here, massive misjudgement of the opinion of him by people at the club, combined with him obviously having no social awareness (definitely dossnt match the no dickheads policy) and being a dogshit footballer... there really aren't many recent players I like less, he epitomises everything I don't like about the club recently
  • Is Gallen still at the club ?
    he was glued to MS (or vice versa) in directors box pre Christmas every home game , maybe a bit of Jan but since then I’ve not seen him at all 
    is he still around 🤷‍♂️ does anyone know.

    On Charlton Live, Terry said he is now watching potential signings on a Saturday at 3pm, rather than watching Charlton. Makes sense.
    Rumoured he was at Welling last Saturday, Cray Wanderers this weekend & will be watching the Dog & Duck play the Malt Shovel on Sunday 😆
    C'mon golfie. You are better than this, everyone knows that the malt shovel are at home to the rose and crown
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  • Has anybody spotted the theme:

    Cost cut
    Crap of pitch
    Discipline issues
    Mgt and fans expect more 

    I think all the above might be linked? Otherwise my Dowie Business degree from decades ago might be wasted!
  • Just sack him, pay him off and delete his number from Gallen's little black book
  • _MrDick said:
    Just sack him, pay him off and delete his number from Gallen's little black book
    What if HardShot has the lil black book in possession atm?
  • I was more than prepared to give Bonne a chance when he signed in January, game after game, I tried to see past the noise from fans, saying how naff he was, I wanted him to ‘Come good’ as East Stand Mike used to say.

    But this fella keeps putting his foot in it, time and time again and riles up the Charlton fans.

    Its a bit disrespectful to your employer and the fans who pay your wages (I’m guessing we are paying him something).

    But the question I’m asking is, why does he keep doing this, and who does he have in his life to advise him?
  • Is Gallen still at the club ?
    he was glued to MS (or vice versa) in directors box pre Christmas every home game , maybe a bit of Jan but since then I’ve not seen him at all 
    is he still around 🤷‍♂️ does anyone know 

    On Charlton Live, Terry said he is now watching potential signings on a Saturday at 3pm, rather than watching Charlton. Makes sense 
    I do wonder though why it took so long for him to do so, how was watching our games helping the club?
  • cafctom said:
    The signing of Bonne isn't even in the top 20 worst signings of the last 3 years.

    It was worth a go and helped us shed Stockley. It hasn't worked out, oh well.

    I'm not going to get upset about liking instagram posts because I'm not a child. He shouldn't have done it, mind.
    Not in the top 20 worst signings of the last few years?

    Sorry, but for me he’s in the top 20 worst in the entire time I’ve been following Charlton (30 years). 

    A striker who hadn’t scored in about a year, and nobody else wanted, who then goes on to alienate fans with his idiocy after a 6-0 loss.

    If you reckon there are 20 worse than him in the last few years then I’d love to see that list.
    Sort of depends on your definition of worst. Worst player or worst in the effect they had/didn't have? Bonne was signed on a free when our season was already over. We were treading water and needed someone to come in so we could sell Stockley while we waited for Leaburn to come back. Bonne has scored more league goals for us than Stockley did this season. It's been bad and disappointing but it hasn't really affected anything. He was free, only on a six month deal so essentially the same as a loan and came in at a time when nothing mattered.
    Last three years might be a bit tight. Lavelle, Kirk, Penney, Mac, Castillo, John, Arter, Chuks 2.0, Watson, Souare, Gilbey, Gunter, Maddison, Matthews 2.0, Schwartz, Levitt, Smith, Leko 2.0, Roddy, Smyth was a big disappointment. That's 20 going back three years, plenty of room for debate in there and honestly even with that I'd say Bonne is number 21. Within these there's a bit of everything; players so bad they didn't even play, players signed for big money who let us down, players brought in to be relied on for promotion who failed us, backup players signed because they were cheap enough before we realised exactly why they were so cheap. Bonne's been bad but I've honestly found it hard to care based on where we were when he joined. I do however have nightmares about us relying on Watson to patrol our midfield, Schwartz to fire us to promotion, Leko and Arter to add quality to our first team or spending 500k on Kirk to end up in the L1 relegation zone. Top 20 in the last 30 years? Not a chance I won't remember Bonne next season.
  • Scoham said:
    Is Gallen still at the club ?
    he was glued to MS (or vice versa) in directors box pre Christmas every home game , maybe a bit of Jan but since then I’ve not seen him at all 
    is he still around 🤷‍♂️ does anyone know 

    On Charlton Live, Terry said he is now watching potential signings on a Saturday at 3pm, rather than watching Charlton. Makes sense 
    I do wonder though why it took so long for him to do so, how was watching our games helping the club?
    It’s not his job, SG said so himself in an interview 

    Martin S find’s and scouts the players 

    SG negotiates the contracts 

    Thomas signs the cheques 
  • cafctom said:
    The signing of Bonne isn't even in the top 20 worst signings of the last 3 years.

    It was worth a go and helped us shed Stockley. It hasn't worked out, oh well.

    I'm not going to get upset about liking instagram posts because I'm not a child. He shouldn't have done it, mind.
    Not in the top 20 worst signings of the last few years?

    Sorry, but for me he’s in the top 20 worst in the entire time I’ve been following Charlton (30 years). 

    A striker who hadn’t scored in about a year, and nobody else wanted, who then goes on to alienate fans with his idiocy after a 6-0 loss.

    If you reckon there are 20 worse than him in the last few years then I’d love to see that list.
    Sort of depends on your definition of worst. Worst player or worst in the effect they had/didn't have? Bonne was signed on a free when our season was already over. We were treading water and needed someone to come in so we could sell Stockley while we waited for Leaburn to come back. Bonne has scored more league goals for us than Stockley did this season. It's been bad and disappointing but it hasn't really affected anything. He was free, only on a six month deal so essentially the same as a loan and came in at a time when nothing mattered.
    Last three years might be a bit tight. Lavelle, Kirk, Penney, Mac, Castillo, John, Arter, Chuks 2.0, Watson, Souare, Gilbey, Gunter, Maddison, Matthews 2.0, Schwartz, Levitt, Smith, Leko 2.0, Roddy, Smyth was a big disappointment. That's 20 going back three years, plenty of room for debate in there and honestly even with that I'd say Bonne is number 21. Within these there's a bit of everything; players so bad they didn't even play, players signed for big money who let us down, players brought in to be relied on for promotion who failed us, backup players signed because they were cheap enough before we realised exactly why they were so cheap. Bonne's been bad but I've honestly found it hard to care based on where we were when he joined. I do however have nightmares about us relying on Watson to patrol our midfield, Schwartz to fire us to promotion, Leko and Arter to add quality to our first team or spending 500k on Kirk to end up in the L1 relegation zone. Top 20 in the last 30 years? Not a chance I won't remember Bonne next season.
    That is a pretty damning list. Take a bow recruitment team. I need to have a lie down after reading that. 
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  • edited April 2023
    Is there any evidence that Bonne is cheap? Feels like this is another one that will be repeated until accepted as fact
  • Cheap in the sense that he cost £0 in transfer fees and we only have him until the end of the season so no ongoing liability. I don't know what he's being paid in wages but I would be really surprised if it was more than we were paying Stockley, who we signed from a Championship club and cost us around £500k in transfer fees. Stockley out for cash and the removed ongoing costs of his longer term contract, Bonne in until the end of the season. I'd say that's pretty cheap.
  • edited April 2023
    cafctom said:
    Shipping out Stockley to bring him in didn’t make sense at all.

    Of course Stockley was majorly out of goal scoring form, but Bonne’s form was drastically worse. I think it’s a crying shame that we didn’t set up at any point to play to Stockley’s strengths (which he undeniably has).

    On the other hand, I couldn’t tell you what Bonne’s key strengths are and how to get him firing. 

    It was a downgrade
    This is the key point - personally I think Stockley was really struggling post-injury etc, and selling him was the right choice.

    But replacing him with Bonne wasn't.
  • edited April 2023
    cafctom said:
    The signing of Bonne isn't even in the top 20 worst signings of the last 3 years.

    It was worth a go and helped us shed Stockley. It hasn't worked out, oh well.

    I'm not going to get upset about liking instagram posts because I'm not a child. He shouldn't have done it, mind.
    Not in the top 20 worst signings of the last few years?

    Sorry, but for me he’s in the top 20 worst in the entire time I’ve been following Charlton (30 years). 

    A striker who hadn’t scored in about a year, and nobody else wanted, who then goes on to alienate fans with his idiocy after a 6-0 loss.

    If you reckon there are 20 worse than him in the last few years then I’d love to see that list.
    Sort of depends on your definition of worst. Worst player or worst in the effect they had/didn't have? Bonne was signed on a free when our season was already over. We were treading water and needed someone to come in so we could sell Stockley while we waited for Leaburn to come back. Bonne has scored more league goals for us than Stockley did this season. It's been bad and disappointing but it hasn't really affected anything. He was free, only on a six month deal so essentially the same as a loan and came in at a time when nothing mattered.
    Last three years might be a bit tight. Lavelle, Kirk, Penney, Mac, Castillo, John, Arter, Chuks 2.0, Watson, Souare, Gilbey, Gunter, Maddison, Matthews 2.0, Schwartz, Levitt, Smith, Leko 2.0, Roddy, Smyth was a big disappointment. That's 20 going back three years, plenty of room for debate in there and honestly even with that I'd say Bonne is number 21. Within these there's a bit of everything; players so bad they didn't even play, players signed for big money who let us down, players brought in to be relied on for promotion who failed us, backup players signed because they were cheap enough before we realised exactly why they were so cheap. Bonne's been bad but I've honestly found it hard to care based on where we were when he joined. I do however have nightmares about us relying on Watson to patrol our midfield, Schwartz to fire us to promotion, Leko and Arter to add quality to our first team or spending 500k on Kirk to end up in the L1 relegation zone. Top 20 in the last 30 years? Not a chance I won't remember Bonne next season.
    That is a pretty damning list. Take a bow recruitment team. I need to have a lie down after reading that. 
    That list gave me shivers when i read it, no one wonder we are floundering , the recruitment / ownership whatever you want to call it, has to change, if we are to not be in the same situation next season.
  • Chunes said:
    Cheap in the sense that he cost £0 in transfer fees and we only have him until the end of the season so no ongoing liability. I don't know what he's being paid in wages but I would be really surprised if it was more than we were paying Stockley, who we signed from a Championship club and cost us around £500k in transfer fees. Stockley out for cash and the removed ongoing costs of his longer term contract, Bonne in until the end of the season. I'd say that's pretty cheap.
    I think as Louis Mendez was alluding to in his excellent takeaways, a level of acceptance is creeping into the fanbase. To accept this transfer of Bonne, and that we chased him for two windows, is to accept us as a mid-level L1 club. If we're happy with the kind of season we just had, I guess that's fine. Personally I'm pretty furious, and certainly not happy with this transfer, despite the explanation.
    I don't accept it, I have detached from it. I'm full apathy. It's a shame but I recently realised that about 50% of my life supporting Charlton it has been a total shitshow. Complete clown car for about 16 consecutive years (there was one good year in there to be fair). I took goal alerts off my phone, I got out of the minutiae of caring and I watch matches, feel disappointingly little when we both score and concede and look at it fairly objectively. While we're in mid-takeover rumblings I can't get hopeful about the future and I can't worry too much about the now because it's all in view of the impending changes. Either we're bought or we're not. If we aren't, more of the same. If we are then it'll either get better or worse or it won't change at all. I might wake up then or I might not, I can't tell. In the context of what we have though, Bonne was a cheap, temporary replacement for a misfiring striker who had to go, which is what I was responding to. I'm not happy about it, I just don't have the energy to be troubled by it anymore.
  • cafctom said:
    Shipping out Stockley to bring him in didn’t make sense at all.

    Of course Stockley was majorly out of goal scoring form, but Bonne’s form was drastically worse. I think it’s a crying shame that we didn’t set up at any point to play to Stockley’s strengths (which he undeniably has).

    On the other hand, I couldn’t tell you what Bonne’s key strengths are and how to get him firing. 

    It was a downgrade. 
    It wasn't really though. It was swapping out a flat tire for a flat tire but getting paid for giving someone your current tire and picking the new one up off the scrap heap. They both have scored two league goals for us this season (I've checked and I'd evidently forgotten a Stockley goal, sorry Jayden!) Stockley scored a penalty in a 5-1 win and a header from about a yard out in a draw. Bonne scored a couple of simple goals in a 6-0 win and a 3-2 win. They provide very little. Stockley had to go because he was completely busted for us, even his hold up play and non-goal contributions had collapsed. He was a spare part. Bonne, when he's not offside, doesn't offer anything much more, and I reckon any vague uptick in his form will die away now he's managed to maneuver the fans onto his back again. Neither of them should be playing for us next season. What we did do was shift Stockley out while there was evidently a market for him, remove the liability of the remaining year on his contract and replace a long-term space-filler with a short-term space-filler. Bonne can go in June and fingers crossed we'll have new owners with a fresh slate to bring in a striker who looks like he recognises what his feet are.
    Honestly, if we're at the stage where we're quibbling about which rotting corpse smells better then we might be wasting our time. At this point all you can say is we created a situation where next season we don't have to have either, and that's good.
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