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Following this club is so depressing…
Callumcafc
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Winning and losing games is part of football. And today’s opposition played well, deserved the win.
But today felt different to the embarrassing defeats of recent weeks against Cheltenham or Port Vale.
Perhaps I’m just numb to the embarrassing results but today felt like a depressing reality check. A slap in the face. Today we played a club that is well run, from top to bottom, and it was harder to watch everything unfold because you can’t help but wonder why can’t that be us? What did we do to deserve the shit that we’ve dealt with the past 15 years?
But today felt different to the embarrassing defeats of recent weeks against Cheltenham or Port Vale.
Perhaps I’m just numb to the embarrassing results but today felt like a depressing reality check. A slap in the face. Today we played a club that is well run, from top to bottom, and it was harder to watch everything unfold because you can’t help but wonder why can’t that be us? What did we do to deserve the shit that we’ve dealt with the past 15 years?
We played a club today that three or four years ago almost went bust. They had to play a full season in this league with a points deduction and an U23 squad because they couldn’t make signings.
They got relegated and spent a full season down in League Two. They sat 19th in the fourth tier after 10 games that season. They were staring at non-league.
But somehow, like Coventry before them, like Wigan since, they’re out the other side.
Why are we having to deal with shit owner after shit owner while other clubs get stood up properly with competent people in charge? It’s demoralising.
They got relegated and spent a full season down in League Two. They sat 19th in the fourth tier after 10 games that season. They were staring at non-league.
But somehow, like Coventry before them, like Wigan since, they’re out the other side.
Why are we having to deal with shit owner after shit owner while other clubs get stood up properly with competent people in charge? It’s demoralising.
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The game could have gone either way. That Ness chance goes in we're winning 2-1. Bolton have sorted themselves out, sure, but there wasn't a chasm in quality on the field21
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Yup agree. Feel completely rudderless at the moment. It's just utter shite with us at the moment. Holden not to blame.0
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Its proof that well ran clubs dont need to splash out endless Transfer Fees provided they do their scouting and due diligence on signings properly... Thats what it comes down to
Have the organised staff in the background, get the right individuals signed up on the pitch, doesnt matter if they're frees | loans | transfers... doesnt matter
Of course you also need to find a decent Manager... Ian Evatt has definitely done well for himself in his short reign in Football Management - We may have found one of those building blocks in Dean Holden... But why, why do I expect him to leave in the summer because of ineptness in the background!!7 -
I think it’s bigger than you realise…Leuth said:The game could have gone either way. That Ness chance goes in we're winning 2-1. Bolton have sorted themselves out, sure, but there wasn't a chasm in quality on the field15 -
They sat 19th in the fourth tier after 10 games that season. They were staring at non-league.Then they signed a player that wanted to come to us who helped them out if it, but we chose DJ instead. It’s a sliding doors moment.2
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It's also proof that things can happen quickly. A Wigan fan could post the same thing in 12 months time after we beat them to extend our lead at the top.Callumcafc said:Winning and losing games is part of football. And today’s opposition played well, deserved the win.
But today felt different to the embarrassing defeats of recent weeks against Cheltenham or Port Vale.
Perhaps I’m just numb to the embarrassing results but today felt like a depressing reality check. A slap in the face. Today we played a club that is well run, from top to bottom, and it was harder to watch everything unfold because you can’t help but wonder why can’t that be us? What did we do to deserve the shit that we’ve dealt with the past 15 years?We played a club today that three or four years ago almost went bust. They had to play a full season in this league with a points deduction and an U23 squad because they couldn’t make signings.
They got relegated and spent a full season down in League Two. They sat 19th in the fourth tier after 10 games that season. They were staring at non-league.
But somehow, like Coventry before them, like Wigan since, they’re out the other side.
Why are we having to deal with shit owner after shit owner while other clubs get stood up properly with competent people in charge? It’s demoralising.5 -
As a Charlton fan I hope you’re right but I am losing faith that anything good will ever happen again at this point lolCafc43v3r said:
It's also proof that things can happen quickly. A Wigan fan could post the same thing in 12 months time after we beat them to extend our lead at the top.Callumcafc said:Winning and losing games is part of football. And today’s opposition played well, deserved the win.
But today felt different to the embarrassing defeats of recent weeks against Cheltenham or Port Vale.
Perhaps I’m just numb to the embarrassing results but today felt like a depressing reality check. A slap in the face. Today we played a club that is well run, from top to bottom, and it was harder to watch everything unfold because you can’t help but wonder why can’t that be us? What did we do to deserve the shit that we’ve dealt with the past 15 years?We played a club today that three or four years ago almost went bust. They had to play a full season in this league with a points deduction and an U23 squad because they couldn’t make signings.
They got relegated and spent a full season down in League Two. They sat 19th in the fourth tier after 10 games that season. They were staring at non-league.
But somehow, like Coventry before them, like Wigan since, they’re out the other side.
Why are we having to deal with shit owner after shit owner while other clubs get stood up properly with competent people in charge? It’s demoralising.0 -
Why can't we just get a normal owner who employs decent people and wants to invest in the side?
We spend fuck all, half a squad rebuild every summer, a bunch of average players, a few loans and we float around mid-table.
I genuinely believe that with our academy it wouldn't even take a lot to get us on an upward trajectory if we had the right people in charge with a decent recruitment plan.14 -
Don't bring logic in here, there's incessant whining to be doneCafc43v3r said:
It's also proof that things can happen quickly. A Wigan fan could post the same thing in 12 months time after we beat them to extend our lead at the top.Callumcafc said:Winning and losing games is part of football. And today’s opposition played well, deserved the win.
But today felt different to the embarrassing defeats of recent weeks against Cheltenham or Port Vale.
Perhaps I’m just numb to the embarrassing results but today felt like a depressing reality check. A slap in the face. Today we played a club that is well run, from top to bottom, and it was harder to watch everything unfold because you can’t help but wonder why can’t that be us? What did we do to deserve the shit that we’ve dealt with the past 15 years?We played a club today that three or four years ago almost went bust. They had to play a full season in this league with a points deduction and an U23 squad because they couldn’t make signings.
They got relegated and spent a full season down in League Two. They sat 19th in the fourth tier after 10 games that season. They were staring at non-league.
But somehow, like Coventry before them, like Wigan since, they’re out the other side.
Why are we having to deal with shit owner after shit owner while other clubs get stood up properly with competent people in charge? It’s demoralising.
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When someone as Uber positive as Callum can see how much of a shitshow it is then we really are in footballing hell
it truly is the worst footballing period in our history and on the back of Curbs and Lennie glory years .
still no need to whine when next season we’re gonna be in our 10th season in 15 in the third tier
palace will be entering their 11th on the spin in the Premiership
and the scum will be in their 12th in 14 in the championship.
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Because some people fear Administration & prefer a Danish wannabe who employes his non-experienced son.Callumcafc said:Winning and losing games is part of football. And today’s opposition played well, deserved the win.
But today felt different to the embarrassing defeats of recent weeks against Cheltenham or Port Vale.
Perhaps I’m just numb to the embarrassing results but today felt like a depressing reality check. A slap in the face. Today we played a club that is well run, from top to bottom, and it was harder to watch everything unfold because you can’t help but wonder why can’t that be us? What did we do to deserve the shit that we’ve dealt with the past 15 years?We played a club today that three or four years ago almost went bust. They had to play a full season in this league with a points deduction and an U23 squad because they couldn’t make signings.
They got relegated and spent a full season down in League Two. They sat 19th in the fourth tier after 10 games that season. They were staring at non-league.
But somehow, like Coventry before them, like Wigan since, they’re out the other side.
Why are we having to deal with shit owner after shit owner while other clubs get stood up properly with competent people in charge? It’s demoralising.
Sliding Doors moment - Farnell & Elliott take over in Aug 2020 & we go into Administration shortly afterwards. By 2023 we are in the Championship after being bought for peanuts by Barclay who then employs Peter Varney as CEO.6 -
The hope is what hurts, despite all the reasons to doubt it a part of us had started to think we were finally starting to rise. Then reality hits1
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After watching the first half today, the realism hit home the difference between a team fighting for a play off place and us. The gulf in quality was there to show. We all thought (up until Barnsley won last Saturday) that it was mathematically albeit hard to to get. Those small flames of hope blown out completely today (if they wern't already). All I could say was that at least this team tries. I can't fault them for effort.2
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Scunthorpe are losing at home to Bromley. There was about 5 divisions between them a decade ago.Scoham said:1 -
Even more depressing is that yet again we are about to be taken over by a group that have no money.3
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Not as depressing as reading this site18
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Loads of club have been through similar issues with poor owners. Oxford, Wrexham, Coventry, Portsmouth, etc. to name four recent examples. Guess the only saving grace is we haven't been down to the 4th tier (which I have now just jinxed) It's annoying when the likes of palace got away with it unscathed, can add Leicester to that as they only had a single season in the third tier then achieved the unthinkable.Sadly with modern football and the difference between the financial differences between the Premiership and Championship I see more charlatans getting involved. How is Southall not in prison? This isn't the game I feel in love with as a kid.
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Since 2010 we’ve been owned by people who don’t share our passion for the club. It’s the modern way, but it’s been a crucial difference in Charlton’s case.
it’s (mostly) not Sandgaard’s fault as the majority of the damage predates him but the heart has been ripped out of the club.20 -
Tommy won't take advice, and we are in this position BECAUSE of him.
He made a statement when he brought the club "....just need to tweak a few dials... will blow the league out of the water...."
Yeah great,put you have to INVEST, in both players and staff, not sack the people who were the beating heart of the club.
We are now facing another "investment" from who knows who and perhaps another change of direction.
I am not depressed, just fed up with the way the club has been run the last 10 seasons3 - Sponsored links:
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I agree with that - but the reason for that is that at no point in that time has the success of the club been the clear and unqualified focus of the ownership. For the most part, this has not been caused by shortage of funds, it’s been because the club has always been a means to an end rather than the end itself.usetobunkin said:Tommy won't take advice, and we are in this position BECAUSE of him.
He made a statement when he brought the club "....just need to tweak a few dials... will blow the league out of the water...."
Yeah great,put you have to INVEST, in both players and staff, not sack the people who where the beating heart of the club.
We are now facing another "investment" from and perhaps another change of direction.
I am not depressed, just fed up with the way the club has been run the last 10 seasons15 -
Another defeat then. However through thick and thin the hardcore Charlton fans are there as per usual.Onwards and upwards!2
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AdTheAddicK said:Yup agree. Feel completely rudderless at the moment. It's just utter shite with us at the moment. Holden not to blame.
Do you mean the 3 games in a row we won, today's game or the off field dodgy infrastructure we have ?
It's like a emotional seesaw with Charlton critics, it never in the middle, just rock bottom with worse team ever, or win 3 games and we go too high and are reaching the playoffs. Lose to a cracking team like Bolton and our fans dreams crash down to terra Firma.
Pay attention and realize we are a mid table team.
IF we can have stability with Dean Holden in charge and we don't cash in this window to raise a few million on Leaburn, Ness and Dobson then we can finish top half. Plus moving on two high wages (if poss) who didn't make the squad today.
I expect it from professional negative critics like Golfie and Oohaahmortimer, but disappointing from Callum.
You would need your head up your own arse(Try it at home if flexible enough) not to realize that we are mega struggling as a football club but at some time soon we need stability on and off the pitch. Is the Pope a Catholic.
We really don't need more threads like this it only feeds the negativity that is so prevalent.
Constructive criticism welcomed, but why moan on a loop.2 -
Yep, i’ve got the massive post match blues today. Hate how much this club plays on my emotions. Season over.
Will probably book Derby tickets tomorrow…11 -
Nope, I mean the club as a whole. I agree with Callum it's depressing.soapboxsam said:AdTheAddicK said:Yup agree. Feel completely rudderless at the moment. It's just utter shite with us at the moment. Holden not to blame.
Do you mean the 3 games in a row we won, today's game or the off field dodgy infrastructure we have ?
It's like a emotional seesaw with Charlton critics, it never in the middle, just rock bottom with worse team ever, or win 3 games and we go too high and are reaching the playoffs. Lose to a cracking team like Bolton and our fans dreams crash down to terra Firma.
Pay attention and realize we are a mid table team.
IF we can have stability with Dean Holden in charge and we don't cash in this window to raise a few million on Leaburn, Ness and Dobson then we can finish top half. Plus moving on two high wages (if poss) who didn't make the squad today.
I expect it from professional negative critics like Golfie and Oohaahmortimer, but disappointing from Callum.
You would need your head up your own arse(Try it at home if flexible enough) not to realize that we are mega struggling as a football club but at some time soon we need stability on and off the pitch. Is the Pope a Catholic.
We really don't need more threads like this it only feeds the negativity that is so prevalent.
Constructive criticism welcomed, but why moan on a loop.1 -
It's never depressing following us.1
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Exeter is the place to goAFKABartram said:Yep, i’ve got the massive post match blues today. Hate how much this club plays on my emotions. Season over.
Will probably book Derby tickets tomorrow…0 -
No one can disagree with that.Airman Brown said:
I agree with that - but the reason for that is that at no point in that time has the success of the club been the clear and unqualified focus of the ownership. For the most part, this has not been caused by shortage of funds, it’s been because the club has always been a means to an end rather than the end itself.usetobunkin said:Tommy won't take advice, and we are in this position BECAUSE of him.
He made a statement when he brought the club "....just need to tweak a few dials... will blow the league out of the water...."
Yeah great,put you have to INVEST, in both players and staff, not sack the people who where the beating heart of the club.
We are now facing another "investment" from and perhaps another change of direction.
I am not depressed, just fed up with the way the club has been run the last 10 seasonsQuestion is will we ever attract a genuine football fan to take us or or do we just have to hope / settle for a slightly better informed ‘investor’?0 -
Did you honestly think this season wasn’t already over? They had a guile that was beyond anything we can produce. Dean says fine margins but dean knows we were played if that park. Patching ourselves together and wasting valuable money has been our downfall (Kirk aneke and lavell says all you need to know. Mr gallen must be running low on creditAFKABartram said:Yep, i’ve got the massive post match blues today. Hate how much this club plays on my emotions. Season over.
Will probably book Derby tickets tomorrow…1 -
Yep, I’m a hopeless fool, old football romantic!CAFCBourne said:
Did you honestly think this season wasn’t already over?AFKABartram said:Yep, i’ve got the massive post match blues today. Hate how much this club plays on my emotions. Season over.
Will probably book Derby tickets tomorrow…Win today we would have been 6 points off play offs with Bolton also pegged back. All to play for. Now it’s well and truly gone.0
