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Chat GPT and other AI guff
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I dont disagree while trump is in charge but will send a message for the post trump world. And with the world how it is taking some action is good for the old mental health if nothing else.3
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I'm not so sure about that. Anthropic are showing some bottle by suing the DOJ. I reckon the DOJ won't want that to go to court, might be embarrassing for the Fox News presenter who now conducts wars. What's more I've heard a lot of people out here (both commentariat and friends) saying the EU should offer Anthropic a good home.Leroy Ambrose said:It won't make a jot of difference. They're literally all bending the knee to Trump. They can't survive without it.
This will sound very untechy (and I guess it is) but when a mate pointed me towards Claude about 15 months ago I quickly felt it "behaves" in a more ..mature way than ChatGPT. The adult in the AI room. It's still the only one I pay for, although I know that one should always test it against other models.1 -
Agree about Claude. GPT grabbed some market share by being first but is by a long way the worst of the AI tools.
Though I generally haven't found much use for any of them. Massive flaws every time I have tried to use them for anything useful. And the studies into cognitive decline in people who rely on AI is scary - basically replicating dementia in those who over rely on it.2 -
Our CFO proudly boasted in a budget call that he took the deck someone had submitted, put it into Co-Pilot and got it to give him 20 questions to ask. This is a CFO of a major professional services company who will be on c.£300k-£400k a year.cantersaddick said:Agree about Claude. GPT grabbed some market share by being first but is by a long way the worst of the AI tools.
Though I generally haven't found much use for any of them. Massive flaws every time I have tried to use them for anything useful. And the studies into cognitive decline in people who rely on AI is scary - basically replicating dementia in those who over rely on it.
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The deck was probably produced by Co-Pilot in the first place.Huskaris said:
Our CFO proudly boasted in a budget call that he took the deck someone had submitted, put it into Co-Pilot and got it to give him 20 questions to ask. This is a CFO of a major professional services company who will be on c.£300k-£400k a year.cantersaddick said:Agree about Claude. GPT grabbed some market share by being first but is by a long way the worst of the AI tools.
Though I generally haven't found much use for any of them. Massive flaws every time I have tried to use them for anything useful. And the studies into cognitive decline in people who rely on AI is scary - basically replicating dementia in those who over rely on it.
I couldn't believe it
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I’m admittedly biased, but I absolutely hate AI. I work as a web developer for a blue chip company and my role has now shifted to essentially “optimising code for AI”. Everything has to be for AI now, make the site easier to read for AI crawlers, make it so AI is more likely to show us in chat responses, build with AI-first in mind, etc.
I’m in my mid 20’s and I see my friends unable to compose thoughts without first checking in with ChatGPT, I see my parents treat it as gospel without every checking any sources, I see my partner complete her master thesis without learning anything as AI can do it all. I see people manipulate AI to feed into their own delusions and begin ostracising themselves.My company has just sacked thousands of people, as human beings are now seen as obsolete in the corporate world. I’m not even going to get into the environmental factors.We’re never going to get it back in the bottle, but I feel like I’m in the start of a disaster movie; trying to tell people what’s going on but they’re too occupied giggling a silly images they’ve generated on ChatGPT.14 -
Agreed with all of this and that its not going anywhere. It could go one of 2 ways.ElliotCAFC said:I’m admittedly biased, but I absolutely hate AI. I work as a web developer for a blue chip company and my role has now shifted to essentially “optimising code for AI”. Everything has to be for AI now, make the site easier to read for AI crawlers, make it so AI is more likely to show us in chat responses, build with AI-first in mind, etc.
I’m in my mid 20’s and I see my friends unable to compose thoughts without first checking in with ChatGPT, I see my parents treat it as gospel without every checking any sources, I see my partner complete her master thesis without learning anything as AI can do it all. I see people manipulate AI to feed into their own delusions and begin ostracising themselves.My company has just sacked thousands of people, as human beings are now seen as obsolete in the corporate world. I’m not even going to get into the environmental factors.We’re never going to get it back in the bottle, but I feel like I’m in the start of a disaster movie; trying to tell people what’s going on but they’re too occupied giggling a silly images they’ve generated on ChatGPT.
1) it could be used to transform the world as we know it. To reduce the demands on humans, reduce working hours and increase leisure time across the board. It could be a great factor in distributing resources more fairly both nationally and in the world. It could be supported with an ethical transition into the new world that allows people to be creative and pursue passions and make the world a better place while AI does the hard and mundane.
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2) A very small number of people will accumulate more wealth than can be consumed in ten thousand lifetimes and everyone else will become effective slaves to them.
Sadly with the way politics and the media/social media is it will only go one way.9 -
Every single c suite role will be doing the same, and shouting from the rooftops about it. It's not because they're proud of what they're doing - it's because they've all been told, in no uncertain terms, to pimp it out to the poors to try and alleviate their natural fear that it will take their job ('if Charlie Bigbucks is using it, then everyone at the company should be').Huskaris said:
Our CFO proudly boasted in a budget call that he took the deck someone had submitted, put it into Co-Pilot and got it to give him 20 questions to ask. This is a CFO of a major professional services company who will be on c.£300k-£400k a year.cantersaddick said:Agree about Claude. GPT grabbed some market share by being first but is by a long way the worst of the AI tools.
Though I generally haven't found much use for any of them. Massive flaws every time I have tried to use them for anything useful. And the studies into cognitive decline in people who rely on AI is scary - basically replicating dementia in those who over rely on it.
I couldn't believe it
It's an entirely parasitical relationship. AI is the largest ponzi scheme in history - literally the entire global economy is predicated on growth based on some amorphous concept of 'true' artifical intelligence being achieved 'soon'. It requires an endless stream of suckers, terrified that their job will be wiped out, getting on board and using it like the good little symbiotic drones they are.
My company is taking probably the best approach I've seen so far, but even there people are absolutely terrified of it under the surface. I said a while back that companies will start to hire back the teams of people they fired early on because they thought that a glorified chatbot could replace their customer service function (or lied about believing it so they could ensure they kept pace with competitors so their share price didn't suffer) - but that there would be a much, much deeper wave of cuts later down the line (3-5 years) as internal functions are replaced wholesale by shit AI versions (HR, Software development, legal services, project management etc). You can now add to that a further trough - probably in 18 months or so - where companies will have to make huge cuts as the ponzi starts to collapse. That will usher in the deepest recession since the great depression - and it'll be global.
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Even if they did realise, I don't think it would make much of a difference. I'm sure 90% of people realise what's happening with the environment and we are still sleepwalking towards disaster.ElliotCAFC said:We’re never going to get it back in the bottle, but I feel like I’m in the start of a disaster movie; trying to tell people what’s going on but they’re too occupied giggling a silly images they’ve generated on ChatGPT.
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I fully understand and agree with the all the negatives cited and the likely negative consequences. I'm actually surprised, unless I've missed it, that nobody has mentioned the current court case against Google Gemini
Google faces lawsuit after Gemini chatbot allegedly instructed man to kill himself
If you have't read it, I warn you, it's the worst thing you'll read today.
But I would like to say that on many occasions, re fairly mundane matters, I've said to myself "Thank you, Claude". Tasks that require a certain amount of work and I don't quite know how to, or just don't want to start. Claude accelerates me into them. Tasks that require some research (the answers need to be scrutinised of course). Just things where I find myself wondering, how does this affect me, often from the savings and investments topic. Things which I vaguely understand (e.g. gilts, or double taxation treaties) and realise that I could fully understand. Using Excel sheets for mundane things can drive me nuts, Claude can build the sheet for me.
So I find that it can be really helpful in daily life but that doesn't mitigate all the problems and dangers described on the thread. It should have been subject to much stricter regulation but it was never going to be possible at this stage. The genie was out of the box back in 2005 or so when Google and Zuckerberg were allowed to make themselves fabulously rich by stealing other people's content and flogging advertising around it; and most of the world still told itself that Google was a "tech company" who invented this brilliant search engine thing we can all use for free.
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'kin well Leroy. Can't you go back to posting about throwing up after banging a chick at a Christmas Party.Leroy Ambrose said:
Every single c suite role will be doing the same, and shouting from the rooftops about it. It's not because they're proud of what they're doing - it's because they've all been told, in no uncertain terms, to pimp it out to the poors to try and alleviate their natural fear that it will take their job ('if Charlie Bigbucks is using it, then everyone at the company should be').Huskaris said:
Our CFO proudly boasted in a budget call that he took the deck someone had submitted, put it into Co-Pilot and got it to give him 20 questions to ask. This is a CFO of a major professional services company who will be on c.£300k-£400k a year.cantersaddick said:Agree about Claude. GPT grabbed some market share by being first but is by a long way the worst of the AI tools.
Though I generally haven't found much use for any of them. Massive flaws every time I have tried to use them for anything useful. And the studies into cognitive decline in people who rely on AI is scary - basically replicating dementia in those who over rely on it.
I couldn't believe it
It's an entirely parasitical relationship. AI is the largest ponzi scheme in history - literally the entire global economy is predicated on growth based on some amorphous concept of 'true' artifical intelligence being achieved 'soon'. It requires an endless stream of suckers, terrified that their job will be wiped out, getting on board and using it like the good little symbiotic drones they are.
My company is taking probably the best approach I've seen so far, but even there people are absolutely terrified of it under the surface. I said a while back that companies will start to hire back the teams of people they fired early on because they thought that a glorified chatbot could replace their customer service function (or lied about believing it so they could ensure they kept pace with competitors so their share price didn't suffer) - but that there would be a much, much deeper wave of cuts later down the line (3-5 years) as internal functions are replaced wholesale by shit AI versions (HR, Software development, legal services, project management etc). You can now add to that a further trough - probably in 18 months or so - where companies will have to make huge cuts as the ponzi starts to collapse. That will usher in the deepest recession since the great depression - and it'll be global.
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Sorry mate, on the bright side I'd be surprised if we all make it to 3-5 years anyway, so there's that 😏3
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Google AI's suggestion for an away pub!3 -
'https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jun/05/anthropic-urges-temporary-pause-on-ai-development-to-discuss-risks'
Some of you might be looking at Anthropic's latest genius bit of hype and wondering whether we're truly at the point where AI is inventing itself
Spoiler - we're not
Check the marketing out and note the subtle changes over time
'Look how cool this is! You don't want to miss out!'
'Hey, everyone is using this - you need to be on the train to keep up'
'If you don't use this you'll be obsolete within months'
'This is really dangerous and powerful, so much so that we need to slow down'
Not too much longer before the bubble bursts - I give it 6-8 months. The only thing that can save them is if governments are stupid enough to make the public shareholders (ie: bank bailouts) - so expect that at some point soon.3 -
I’ve drunk in worse boozers tbfStig said:
Google AI's suggestion for an away pub!1 -
I’m sure it can be useful, and I heard someone complaining that asking AI simple questions misusing it, but it’s still a concern when it can’t accurately answer a simple question.I wanted, purely for research purposes, a list of all the breweries and taprooms within RT128 (Bostons version of the M25. I ask Google in its AI version, back comes the list, and I immediately notice a couple of major omissions. I ask did it forget them, and it say yes, here’s an updated list. Just to see what happens, I asked if had forgotten any others, and it said it had, here are some more.It doesn’t fill me with confidence.2
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I knew that AI searches use a massive increase in electricity over an ordinary search, but only recently discovered the astonishing amount of water used. Large data centres can consume 5 million gallons a day - that's hundreds of billions of litres globally.
Individual Requests: According to University of California, Riverside researchers, generating an AI response (roughly 100 words or a 20-query chat session) consumes about one bottle of water (roughly 500 ml). For generating a high-complexity video, the indirect water footprint jumps to 4.1 litres.1 -
The water is "used" but often out back where it came from! It does not mysteriously disappear.
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I work in Financial Services industry.AI is being banded about wherever I look in my firm as if it’ll be the answer to everything. Cost savings, controls, client experience etc.
it’s almost as if the top brass think just saying AI will make it happen.1 -
Shows how divvy management are, everybody knows you have to say it three times whilst looking in the mirror….6
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I work in the same but the marketing side. Lots of pressure to start coming up with ai solutions to producing assets. Despite the fact the tech still isn’t there. I’ve created tools with ai but that’s about it. It’s terrible when you try to use it for end to end producing assets.SuedeAdidas said:I work in Financial Services industry.AI is being banded about wherever I look in my firm as if it’ll be the answer to everything. Cost savings, controls, client experience etc.
it’s almost as if the top brass think just saying AI will make it happen.1 -
The problem with AI is that it takes its learnings and behavioural mechanics from what has gone before. Or at best current trends.
Where it struggles is if an industry is intrinsically flawed.
The sports sponsorship industry for example that I work in has historically been guided by personal bias, who you know and not what you know, sales bias and everything except transparency and objectivity.
If you ask ChatGPT what you should sponsor, all it does is look at historic tends and what’s gone before. Which for an industry that is totally flawed, is rinse an repeat of decades old problems.
We have spent the last few years building out the most extensive data warehouse in the industry. Only then can you leverage the power of AI to drive more efficient thinking because it actually has something to lean on2 -
Fucking hell I hate being right sometimes 🤣Leroy Ambrose said:'https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jun/05/anthropic-urges-temporary-pause-on-ai-development-to-discuss-risks'
Some of you might be looking at Anthropic's latest genius bit of hype and wondering whether we're truly at the point where AI is inventing itself
Spoiler - we're not
Check the marketing out and note the subtle changes over time
'Look how cool this is! You don't want to miss out!'
'Hey, everyone is using this - you need to be on the train to keep up'
'If you don't use this you'll be obsolete within months'
'This is really dangerous and powerful, so much so that we need to slow down'
Not too much longer before the bubble bursts - I give it 6-8 months. The only thing that can save them is if governments are stupid enough to make the public shareholders (ie: bank bailouts) - so expect that at some point soon.
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Did you have any doubts Trump would be stupid enough?4
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I mean I’m skeptical that we’re in a bubble but you can’t tell me this isn’t bubble behaviour.Leroy Ambrose said:
Fucking hell I hate being right sometimes 🤣Leroy Ambrose said:'https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jun/05/anthropic-urges-temporary-pause-on-ai-development-to-discuss-risks'
Some of you might be looking at Anthropic's latest genius bit of hype and wondering whether we're truly at the point where AI is inventing itself
Spoiler - we're not
Check the marketing out and note the subtle changes over time
'Look how cool this is! You don't want to miss out!'
'Hey, everyone is using this - you need to be on the train to keep up'
'If you don't use this you'll be obsolete within months'
'This is really dangerous and powerful, so much so that we need to slow down'
Not too much longer before the bubble bursts - I give it 6-8 months. The only thing that can save them is if governments are stupid enough to make the public shareholders (ie: bank bailouts) - so expect that at some point soon.If we were to be kind you could claim that it’s like the British government taking a stake in railways during the Industrial Revolution, but that gave birth to its own bubbles.1 -
It is 100% a bubbleDiebythesword said:
I mean I’m skeptical that we’re in a bubble but you can’t tell me this isn’t bubble behaviour.Leroy Ambrose said:
Fucking hell I hate being right sometimes 🤣Leroy Ambrose said:'https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jun/05/anthropic-urges-temporary-pause-on-ai-development-to-discuss-risks'
Some of you might be looking at Anthropic's latest genius bit of hype and wondering whether we're truly at the point where AI is inventing itself
Spoiler - we're not
Check the marketing out and note the subtle changes over time
'Look how cool this is! You don't want to miss out!'
'Hey, everyone is using this - you need to be on the train to keep up'
'If you don't use this you'll be obsolete within months'
'This is really dangerous and powerful, so much so that we need to slow down'
Not too much longer before the bubble bursts - I give it 6-8 months. The only thing that can save them is if governments are stupid enough to make the public shareholders (ie: bank bailouts) - so expect that at some point soon.If we were to be kind you could claim that it’s like the British government taking a stake in railways during the Industrial Revolution, but that gave birth to its own bubbles.2 -
I'm with you on this. I read today the levels of debt tied up with the big banks from generative AI companies is now twice that as the subprime mortgage crisis. Its similar in the sense that its all based on overstated upside and under-reported liabilities. They are only building half the data centres they have generated debts to build, they have spent nearly a trillion developing products they can't monetise, there is no customer loyalty. Here is no way to significantly increase revenue without massive costs of scaling. I can't see any route to investments paying off.Leroy Ambrose said:
Fucking hell I hate being right sometimes 🤣Leroy Ambrose said:'https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jun/05/anthropic-urges-temporary-pause-on-ai-development-to-discuss-risks'
Some of you might be looking at Anthropic's latest genius bit of hype and wondering whether we're truly at the point where AI is inventing itself
Spoiler - we're not
Check the marketing out and note the subtle changes over time
'Look how cool this is! You don't want to miss out!'
'Hey, everyone is using this - you need to be on the train to keep up'
'If you don't use this you'll be obsolete within months'
'This is really dangerous and powerful, so much so that we need to slow down'
Not too much longer before the bubble bursts - I give it 6-8 months. The only thing that can save them is if governments are stupid enough to make the public shareholders (ie: bank bailouts) - so expect that at some point soon.
This is gonna go bang at some point and it's gonna be bad. Just like 2008 it's gonna affect normal people horribly and as you suggest governments don't seem to have learnt the lessons of 2008 and bailouts in the form of ownership stakes are already being quietly discussed. If that does happen I hope there are massive protests that spark genuine change and break the control oligarchs have over governments.4 -
My company use Claude a lot it’s pretty handy.0
