I think Jones is very good at certain things, simple passes, fairly strong, wins headers, but he lacks some of the qualities to be a top CB, so I think a back 5 suits him.
I'd like to see him on the left side, with Mitchell on the right and someone in the middle who can allow us to play it out a bit. I know Nathan Jones doesn't necessarily like to play that way, but it would be nice to have that option.
I hope in January we try and capitalise on a club looking to sale a player before he goes for nothing.
Either way, been impressed by him this season so far.
He needs to play on the front foot and at full intensity to bring out his qualities. Slowing down into Hector mode leads him to lose concentration and some clumsy moments.
I think Jones is very good at certain things, simple passes, fairly strong, wins headers, but he lacks some of the qualities to be a top CB, so I think a back 5 suits him.
I'd like to see him on the left side, with Mitchell on the right and someone in the middle who can allow us to play it out a bit. I know Nathan Jones doesn't necessarily like to play that way, but it would be nice to have that option.
I hope in January we try and capitalise on a club looking to sale a player before he goes for nothing.
Either way, been impressed by him this season so far.
He has virtually no left foot at all as evidenced when he went on his marauding run. Agree that I'd like to see us try someone with better passing range in the middle, Z Mitchell could be that man but feels too early. I wonder if REG is worth a go there at some point?
I think Jones is very good at certain things, simple passes, fairly strong, wins headers, but he lacks some of the qualities to be a top CB, so I think a back 5 suits him.
I'd like to see him on the left side, with Mitchell on the right and someone in the middle who can allow us to play it out a bit. I know Nathan Jones doesn't necessarily like to play that way, but it would be nice to have that option.
I hope in January we try and capitalise on a club looking to sale a player before he goes for nothing.
Either way, been impressed by him this season so far.
He has virtually no left foot at all as evidenced when he went on his marauding run. Agree that I'd like to see us try someone with better passing range in the middle, Z Mitchell could be that man but feels too early. I wonder if REG is worth a go there at some point?
He played left side at Cambridge and did alright mate. Either way you see my point, it would be nice to have a centre back who is comfortable in bringing the ball out.
I'll probably get a LoL for this, but Ryan Innis was pretty good at it, would be nice to get someone similar without the red card in him and the turning speed of a tractor.
My view of Jones is that he’s played outstandingly this season but has made two mistakes that have lead to goals in successive games.
If that carries on, it’s a concern and another should be given a chance, if it doesn’t then we forget about it and remember what an excellent and dominant cb he can be.
My view of Jones is that he’s played outstandingly this season but has made two mistakes that have lead to goals in successive games.
If that carries on, it’s a concern and another should be given a chance, if it doesn’t then we forget about it and remember what an excellent and dominant cb he can be.
Hopefully for all of us, it’s the latter.
That's really the issue with Jones isn't it, he looks brilliant for 95% of a game but that other 5% is very costly sometimes. Both the goals he "caused" did have other players involved as well in fairness, he's not served up a short back pass or given the ball directly to a goal scorer or anything so blatant but NJ's system is very punishing on both teams - one mistake is often enough.
I don't think N. Jones will be changing out his namesake just yet but the mistakes will be noticed that's for sure.
I think Jones is very good at certain things, simple passes, fairly strong, wins headers, but he lacks some of the qualities to be a top CB, so I think a back 5 suits him.
I'd like to see him on the left side, with Mitchell on the right and someone in the middle who can allow us to play it out a bit. I know Nathan Jones doesn't necessarily like to play that way, but it would be nice to have that option.
I hope in January we try and capitalise on a club looking to sale a player before he goes for nothing.
Either way, been impressed by him this season so far.
I think playing him on the left would be a big mistake, it would probably expose Jones defensively against some of the wide players in this league and would make us look very clunky in possession. There is a reason everyone is desperate for left footed centre backs! And now we’ve finally got 2 of them so let’s use them
I think we’d be much better with the ball with REG on the right and A.Mitchell moving to the middle. But I think we then look a little small, and Jones has been very good defensively this season, so I think the current set up is probably for the best
What Jones did on Saturday happens so far before the goal it's not even in the highlights package on YouTube. I think it's harsh to single him out and more responsibility lies on the midfield for not getting close to the shooter much earlier. No player makes zero errors and players have to have each other's backs when a mistake does occur.
But that doesn’t mean he’s absolved of any responsibility either.
I’ve heard Brownie, and others, say that when you concede a goal there’s usually at least two mistakes you can point to. Everyone needs to keep pushing their standards, personally and collectively.
I think Jones is very good at certain things, simple passes, fairly strong, wins headers, but he lacks some of the qualities to be a top CB, so I think a back 5 suits him.
I'd like to see him on the left side, with Mitchell on the right and someone in the middle who can allow us to play it out a bit. I know Nathan Jones doesn't necessarily like to play that way, but it would be nice to have that option.
I hope in January we try and capitalise on a club looking to sale a player before he goes for nothing.
Either way, been impressed by him this season so far.
He has virtually no left foot at all as evidenced when he went on his marauding run. Agree that I'd like to see us try someone with better passing range in the middle, Z Mitchell could be that man but feels too early. I wonder if REG is worth a go there at some point?
He played left side at Cambridge and did alright mate. Either way you see my point, it would be nice to have a centre back who is comfortable in bringing the ball out.
I'll probably get a LoL for this, but Ryan Innis was pretty good at it, would be nice to get someone similar without the red card in him and the turning speed of a tractor.
Whaaaaaaaaatttt
Come on Brazilliance you see the game better than that
If he wasn't playing non league football at the moment, I might be motivated to fish out some highlights of dear old Ryan "bringing the ball out"
We need the Nabster back to ping those laser-guided left-footed crossfield balls. Gillesphey tries them but he ain't great at them.
Prompted me to look up where he’s playing and he seems to be a free agent. Pleasantly surprised his name didn’t crop up on the rumours thread all summer
We need the Nabster back to ping those laser-guided left-footed crossfield balls. Gillesphey tries them but he ain't great at them.
Prompted me to look up where he’s playing and he seems to be a free agent. Pleasantly surprised his name didn’t crop up on the rumours thread all summer
Are you sure? Looks like he plays for a team in the Qatari second division.
Reg is the best centre back we have on the ball. Not as good defensively as Mitchell or imposing as Jones though. I would personally find a slot for him for his qualities at bringing the ball out from the back but I understand why Jones favours the status quo.
We need the Nabster back to ping those laser-guided left-footed crossfield balls. Gillesphey tries them but he ain't great at them.
Prompted me to look up where he’s playing and he seems to be a free agent. Pleasantly surprised his name didn’t crop up on the rumours thread all summer
Are you sure? Looks like he plays for a team in the Qatari second division.
Fotmob says he played there last season but is a free agent now
I would take Naby back in a heartbeat. Even if he was error prone, he could tackle and pass better than most of the players we've had since. Can't even be that old.
I would take Naby back in a heartbeat. Even if he was error prone, he could tackle and pass better than most of the players we've had since. Can't even be that old.
Imagine the carnage of the last 5 minutes of a game we are losing, when Chuks and Naby go up front together
I would take Naby back in a heartbeat. Even if he was error prone, he could tackle and pass better than most of the players we've had since. Can't even be that old.
He's 31 and currently playing for Al-Markhiya SC in Qatar. Head coach, one Madjid Bougherra. All according to Wikipedia. No idea how good he is these days though.
One of my favourites so far he’s come on leaps and bounds with some proper defenders around him. I can only see him getting better, as for the goal/mistake like others have said. His teammates need to have his back there and they all could of closed the guy down for the goal quicker.
What Jones did on Saturday happens so far before the goal it's not even in the highlights package on YouTube. I think it's harsh to single him out and more responsibility lies on the midfield for not getting close to the shooter much earlier. No player makes zero errors and players have to have each other's backs when a mistake does occur.
Agreed. You'd have thought he passed the ball to an opposition player in the penalty area, the way he's being blamed by some. At the time I, and others around me, were furious with the lack of closing down, as the goalscorer still had loads to do.
Jones is the only one of the 3 current CBs who at least tries to bring the ball forward and make forward passes (as opposed to forward hoofs).
What Jones did on Saturday happens so far before the goal it's not even in the highlights package on YouTube. I think it's harsh to single him out and more responsibility lies on the midfield for not getting close to the shooter much earlier. No player makes zero errors and players have to have each other's backs when a mistake does occur.
Agreed. You'd have thought he passed the ball to an opposition player in the penalty area, the way he's being blamed by some. At the time I, and others around me, were furious with the lack of closing down, as the goalscorer still had loads to do.
Jones is the only one of the 3 current CBs who at least tries to bring the ball forward and make forward passes (as opposed to forward hoofs).
Rotherham pressed Mitchell and Gillesphey whenever the ball was passed to them. They didn’t press Jones
Maybe it was just because he was the middle centre back that he wasn’t pressed, but it felt like a deliberate plan that they wanted him to be the one passing the ball, because he isn’t the best at it, and if so it worked
What Jones did on Saturday happens so far before the goal it's not even in the highlights package on YouTube. I think it's harsh to single him out and more responsibility lies on the midfield for not getting close to the shooter much earlier. No player makes zero errors and players have to have each other's backs when a mistake does occur.
Agreed. You'd have thought he passed the ball to an opposition player in the penalty area, the way he's being blamed by some. At the time I, and others around me, were furious with the lack of closing down, as the goalscorer still had loads to do.
Jones is the only one of the 3 current CBs who at least tries to bring the ball forward and make forward passes (as opposed to forward hoofs).
Rotherham pressed Mitchell and Gillesphey whenever the ball was passed to them. They didn’t press Jones
Maybe it was just because he was the middle centre back that he wasn’t pressed, but it felt like a deliberate plan that they wanted him to be the one passing the ball, because he isn’t the best at it, and if so it worked
Yes but it's odd because I think Jones is probably the most talented of the 3 on the ball.
Jones has been fine so far, will be interesting as the season goes on if they offer a new contract
If he’s not signed one by the end of December, he’ll either walk in the summer , or be sold in January, good question for Charlie and Gavin at Bromley Addicks.
I think Jones is very good at certain things, simple passes, fairly strong, wins headers, but he lacks some of the qualities to be a top CB, so I think a back 5 suits him.
I'd like to see him on the left side, with Mitchell on the right and someone in the middle who can allow us to play it out a bit. I know Nathan Jones doesn't necessarily like to play that way, but it would be nice to have that option.
I hope in January we try and capitalise on a club looking to sale a player before he goes for nothing.
Either way, been impressed by him this season so far.
He has virtually no left foot at all as evidenced when he went on his marauding run. Agree that I'd like to see us try someone with better passing range in the middle, Z Mitchell could be that man but feels too early. I wonder if REG is worth a go there at some point?
He played left side at Cambridge and did alright mate. Either way you see my point, it would be nice to have a centre back who is comfortable in bringing the ball out.
I'll probably get a LoL for this, but Ryan Innis was pretty good at it, would be nice to get someone similar without the red card in him and the turning speed of a tractor.
Whaaaaaaaaatttt
Come on Brazilliance you see the game better than that
If he wasn't playing non league football at the moment, I might be motivated to fish out some highlights of dear old Ryan "bringing the ball out"
I genuinely liked him as a player 50% of the time, he was a disaster waiting to happen, but players were pretty scared to go near him, and he rarely lost an aerial duel. Many times I saw him attempt to run out with the ball. He was just a bit slow on the turn and made bad decisions.
I'm not saying I want Innis, or a player of his level, at all, rather someone who could try and run with the ball a bit instead of lumping it. We are missing it at the moment.
I think Jones is very good at certain things, simple passes, fairly strong, wins headers, but he lacks some of the qualities to be a top CB, so I think a back 5 suits him.
I'd like to see him on the left side, with Mitchell on the right and someone in the middle who can allow us to play it out a bit. I know Nathan Jones doesn't necessarily like to play that way, but it would be nice to have that option.
I hope in January we try and capitalise on a club looking to sale a player before he goes for nothing.
Either way, been impressed by him this season so far.
He has virtually no left foot at all as evidenced when he went on his marauding run. Agree that I'd like to see us try someone with better passing range in the middle, Z Mitchell could be that man but feels too early. I wonder if REG is worth a go there at some point?
He played left side at Cambridge and did alright mate. Either way you see my point, it would be nice to have a centre back who is comfortable in bringing the ball out.
I'll probably get a LoL for this, but Ryan Innis was pretty good at it, would be nice to get someone similar without the red card in him and the turning speed of a tractor.
Whaaaaaaaaatttt
Come on Brazilliance you see the game better than that
If he wasn't playing non league football at the moment, I might be motivated to fish out some highlights of dear old Ryan "bringing the ball out"
I genuinely liked him as a player 50% of the time, he was a disaster waiting to happen, but players were pretty scared to go near him, and he rarely lost an aerial duel. Many times I saw him attempt to run out with the ball. He was just a bit slow on the turn and made bad decisions.
I'm not saying I want Innis, or a player of his level, at all, rather someone who could try and run with the ball a bit instead of lumping it. We are missing it at the moment.
I'm not sure it's because we lack players who can do it, it's how NJ has got us playing.
What Jones did on Saturday happens so far before the goal it's not even in the highlights package on YouTube. I think it's harsh to single him out and more responsibility lies on the midfield for not getting close to the shooter much earlier. No player makes zero errors and players have to have each other's backs when a mistake does occur.
Agreed. You'd have thought he passed the ball to an opposition player in the penalty area, the way he's being blamed by some. At the time I, and others around me, were furious with the lack of closing down, as the goalscorer still had loads to do.
Jones is the only one of the 3 current CBs who at least tries to bring the ball forward and make forward passes (as opposed to forward hoofs).
Rotherham pressed Mitchell and Gillesphey whenever the ball was passed to them. They didn’t press Jones
Maybe it was just because he was the middle centre back that he wasn’t pressed, but it felt like a deliberate plan that they wanted him to be the one passing the ball, because he isn’t the best at it, and if so it worked
He is better on the ball than the the other 2, especially Alex Mitchell who looks fairly limited as a passer.
What Jones did on Saturday happens so far before the goal it's not even in the highlights package on YouTube. I think it's harsh to single him out and more responsibility lies on the midfield for not getting close to the shooter much earlier. No player makes zero errors and players have to have each other's backs when a mistake does occur.
Agreed. You'd have thought he passed the ball to an opposition player in the penalty area, the way he's being blamed by some. At the time I, and others around me, were furious with the lack of closing down, as the goalscorer still had loads to do.
Jones is the only one of the 3 current CBs who at least tries to bring the ball forward and make forward passes (as opposed to forward hoofs).
Rotherham pressed Mitchell and Gillesphey whenever the ball was passed to them. They didn’t press Jones
Maybe it was just because he was the middle centre back that he wasn’t pressed, but it felt like a deliberate plan that they wanted him to be the one passing the ball, because he isn’t the best at it, and if so it worked
He is better on the ball than the the other 2, especially Alex Mitchell who looks fairly limited as a passer.
I’d say Gillesphey is the best of the 3, but do agree on Mitchell. I think Gillesphey has the ability to play forward progressive passes, but the way we play doesn’t usually allow him to do it.
When we have the ball at the back, only the wing backs and Coventry are available for forward passes to feet. The other 2 midfielders position themselves nearer the striker, ready for the long ball and knockdown. So it is difficult for our back 3 to not resort to the long ball
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I'd like to see him on the left side, with Mitchell on the right and someone in the middle who can allow us to play it out a bit. I know Nathan Jones doesn't necessarily like to play that way, but it would be nice to have that option.
I hope in January we try and capitalise on a club looking to sale a player before he goes for nothing.
Either way, been impressed by him this season so far.
I'll probably get a LoL for this, but Ryan Innis was pretty good at it, would be nice to get someone similar without the red card in him and the turning speed of a tractor.
Hopefully for all of us, it’s the latter.
I don't think N. Jones will be changing out his namesake just yet but the mistakes will be noticed that's for sure.
I think we’d be much better with the ball with REG on the right and A.Mitchell moving to the middle. But I think we then look a little small, and Jones has been very good defensively this season, so I think the current set up is probably for the best
Come on Brazilliance you see the game better than that
If he wasn't playing non league football at the moment, I might be motivated to fish out some highlights of dear old Ryan "bringing the ball out"
Are you sure? Looks like he plays for a team in the Qatari second division.
Jones is the only one of the 3 current CBs who at least tries to bring the ball forward and make forward passes (as opposed to forward hoofs).
Maybe it was just because he was the middle centre back that he wasn’t pressed, but it felt like a deliberate plan that they wanted him to be the one passing the ball, because he isn’t the best at it, and if so it worked
I'm not saying I want Innis, or a player of his level, at all, rather someone who could try and run with the ball a bit instead of lumping it. We are missing it at the moment.