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Charlton vs Leyton Orient - Pre-Season Friendly.

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Egbo and Campbell combine to get behind the back line but no striker in position for the tap in
    I thought Kirk was in a good position but the cross was poor? 
    A bit of pace across the six yard box… didn’t see anything wrong with it myself.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    NabySarr said:
    Southbank said:
    Neither Kirk nor CBT fit the 3-5-2 system
    I think they both fit it more than Campbell who I think is the biggest loser from our formation change. 

    CBT played wing back for Jackson and did pretty well. Also once we have signed a proper LWB then he can be used as an impact sub which he is very effective at. From pre-season so far the wing backs have played very high up so probably a more attacking 3-5-2 than Jackson’s also 

    Kirk doesn’t really fit but he did play up front quite well last season against Pompey and burton. I think he will leave though as for that role as May’s backup I’m sure we’d rather use 2 of our own in Kanu and Campbell 
    If we go into the season with Kanu, green as a pepper tree, and Campbell a winger who is still wet behind the ears as the only back up for May we best hope he plays 40+ games next season.

    There is still a lot of work to do in both directions.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    A beer? It's only ten past 11!

    Might have a dump though. 
  • Positives, May looked good, Thomas going forward, Fraser good on the ball, Anderson passing the ball nicely.
    Negatives, Henry, lack of pace in his defensive work, passing average.
    Mitchell, some poor passing and defensively looked shaky.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited July 2023
    I'll find out from my Leyton Orient colleague later, to see the measure of their teams that they've put out.

    I'm hoping this is their better squad
    AFAIK it was mostly their best side. Archibald, Moncur, El Mizouni, Happe, Brynn are all ones I’d be shocked if they don’t start at the Valley…

    (edit: Brown, James and Sanders too… that’s eight of the XI)
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,665
    I'll find out from my Leyton Orient colleague later, to see the measure of their teams that they've put out.

    I'm hoping this is their better squad
    It is, it's pretty much full strength.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    Mitchell has been horrible. I haven’t seen much of him in the past.  Why is everybody so high his potential? Just one bad performance?

    Fraser, Egbo, Isted and Thomas looking solid.
    He'll hopefully do better in a more experienced back line - His best quality is his ability to bring the ball out, and usually his passing ability.

    He'll probably end being better in Dobson's role
    I much prefer him in midfield. Indeed in the role Henry had in this half.
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,972
    Well in that first game. two concerns show up. First that the defenders are too easily manoeuvred out of position and are unaware of who is around them. Two the passing except that of Fraser, was poor to often.
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    Agree with others, Anderson looking a real prospect. Difficult for us going forward with only May as an actual striker. 

    Isted had a strange hour, some really good saves but looks dodgy coming for the ball.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Just a friendly so to be taken with a large pinch of salt, but my view on the "performances" of those involved - Main factor is they've had minutes, and no injuries.

    Isted: Who lines up on the opening day is an interesting, could be either of them.
    Ness: Didnt really stand out, looked a bit relaxed
    Mitchell: Few loose balls - See him getting token appearances
    Thomas: Has carried on his form from the end of the season
    Egbo: Been impressed with him at Wing-Back
    CBT: Has struggled at wing-back, but still worked well at times
    Henry: Calling it now... Leuth's POTY!!
    Anderson: Quietly impressed, reckon next season will be his breakout year
    Fraser (MOTM): Pulled the strings in Midfield
    Kirk: Nice first 30mins... Barely visible the second
    May: Looks a very good signing to boot, relieved he's got his first goal
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Archibald impressed me. Cheeky bid please Charlie…
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Egbo and Campbell combine to get behind the back line but no striker in position for the tap in
    No surprise now May has gone off. We don't have any natural strikers on the pitch 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Egbo and Campbell combine to get behind the back line but no striker in position for the tap in
    No surprise now May has gone off. We don't have any natural strikers on the pitch 
    Kanu will come on for the second 60-minutes
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    The first team for Orient had far more of their starting 11 in it. We seem to have ours split more evenly across the two teams.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    Cafc43v3r said:
    NabySarr said:
    Southbank said:
    Neither Kirk nor CBT fit the 3-5-2 system
    I think they both fit it more than Campbell who I think is the biggest loser from our formation change. 

    CBT played wing back for Jackson and did pretty well. Also once we have signed a proper LWB then he can be used as an impact sub which he is very effective at. From pre-season so far the wing backs have played very high up so probably a more attacking 3-5-2 than Jackson’s also 

    Kirk doesn’t really fit but he did play up front quite well last season against Pompey and burton. I think he will leave though as for that role as May’s backup I’m sure we’d rather use 2 of our own in Kanu and Campbell 
    If we go into the season with Kanu, green as a pepper tree, and Campbell a winger who is still wet behind the ears as the only back up for May we best hope he plays 40+ games next season.

    There is still a lot of work to do in both directions.
    We’d also have Leaburn when fit, and another new striker. So those 2 and May would be ahead of Kanu and TC. I do think Kanu will be fine, he looked good in Holdens 3-5-2 against Peterborough, just needs a partner like Leaburn or someone more physical (new signing) to do that side of the game. 

    Don’t think we can expect 2 more strikers to be brought in as that’s a lot of budget on the front line and we still have holes elsewhere in the team to fill 
  • Bostonaddick
    Bostonaddick Posts: 814
    Pratley is on. Make sure any potential starters don’t play this quarter.  Pratley never saw an ankle he didn’t like stepping on.
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    Getting a good LWB in will balance the team out far better, CBT as we know very dangerous going forward but offers almost nothing defensively (not his fault, never been a defender).
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
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  • Jonniesta
    Jonniesta Posts: 1,152
    Thought Ness had a strong half personally, looks sharp again. Agree with others on CBT, Fraser, Thomas. Less convinced by Anderson, but missed the first 10 minutes. Mitchell had a bit of a mare, but first time I've seen him play like that. Everyone gets a dodgy half every now and then.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    NabySarr said:
    Southbank said:
    Neither Kirk nor CBT fit the 3-5-2 system
    I think they both fit it more than Campbell who I think is the biggest loser from our formation change. 

    CBT played wing back for Jackson and did pretty well. Also once we have signed a proper LWB then he can be used as an impact sub which he is very effective at. From pre-season so far the wing backs have played very high up so probably a more attacking 3-5-2 than Jackson’s also 

    Kirk doesn’t really fit but he did play up front quite well last season against Pompey and burton. I think he will leave though as for that role as May’s backup I’m sure we’d rather use 2 of our own in Kanu and Campbell 
    If we go into the season with Kanu, green as a pepper tree, and Campbell a winger who is still wet behind the ears as the only back up for May we best hope he plays 40+ games next season.

    There is still a lot of work to do in both directions.
    I'm with you on this.
    We are rightly proud of our academy, but it's not like we have a crop of game changers or oven ready first teamers.
    I'm still hoping we will bring in 2 or 3 more of the caibre of May.
    The kids should continue to be brought through sensibly and used sparingly.
    Kanu needs to be loaned out to play amongst men.
    Not even sure Leaburn should be an auto pick for every available game yet. There I've said it.

  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    NabySarr said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    NabySarr said:
    Southbank said:
    Neither Kirk nor CBT fit the 3-5-2 system
    I think they both fit it more than Campbell who I think is the biggest loser from our formation change. 

    CBT played wing back for Jackson and did pretty well. Also once we have signed a proper LWB then he can be used as an impact sub which he is very effective at. From pre-season so far the wing backs have played very high up so probably a more attacking 3-5-2 than Jackson’s also 

    Kirk doesn’t really fit but he did play up front quite well last season against Pompey and burton. I think he will leave though as for that role as May’s backup I’m sure we’d rather use 2 of our own in Kanu and Campbell 
    If we go into the season with Kanu, green as a pepper tree, and Campbell a winger who is still wet behind the ears as the only back up for May we best hope he plays 40+ games next season.

    There is still a lot of work to do in both directions.
    We’d also have Leaburn when fit, and another new striker. So those 2 and May would be ahead of Kanu and TC. I do think Kanu will be fine, he looked good in Holdens 3-5-2 against Peterborough, just needs a partner like Leaburn or someone more physical (new signing) to do that side of the game. 

    Don’t think we can expect 2 more strikers to be brought in as that’s a lot of budget on the front line and we still have holes elsewhere in the team to fill 
    I might be wrong here. Kanu hasn’t come out for the second half and we have Jaiyesimi up front. Unless Kanu has a knock or something that to me says he’s maybe not in the plans and will be loaned out. Or hopefully a league 2 scout is here and we’re putting DJ in the shop window 
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,791
    So we are playing 4 halves
    Football is a game of two halves.

    and then two more.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318

  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited July 2023
    Second half side…

     ——————Isted
     ——-Bakrin Hector Elerewe
     Asiimwe Dobson McGrandles Chin
     ——————Payne
     ———-Jaiyesimi Campbell
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
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