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Charlie Methven: Global Football Partners have no plans to ‘flip’ Charlton Athletic

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  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,979
    seth plum said:
    I am waiting for the answer from anybody in this regime to give a clear answer as to ‘why Charlton?’
    That is like asking those American billionaire brothers why they have bought Bedford Real. I can not fathom that, but it happened.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,237
    edited April 2024
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/charlton-athletic-owners-fully-intent-on-backing-nathan-jones-in-summer-transfer-window/

    Bit of a rehash of the OS interview but some additional info, to me at least EG

    Jones on 4.5 year contract

    Jones was in last two for Spanner job when Edwards was appointed.

    No talks with Thomas as yet over new deal.

    Aim next season is "big promotion push".

    "Ownership group, who were very, very clear that they want to back the manager in his aspirations.”
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,473
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/charlton-athletic-owners-fully-intent-on-backing-nathan-jones-in-summer-transfer-window/

    Bit of a rehash of the OS interview but some additional info, to me at least EG

    Jones on 4.5 year contract

    Jones was in last two for Spanner job when Edwards was appointed.

    No talks with Thomas as yet over new deal.

    Aim next season is "big promotion push".

    "Ownership group, who were very, very clear that they want to back the manager in his aspirations.”
     Really don't think he'll be here next season. Same goes for Hector
  • We are going to have to make some amazing signings to make a push from 16th to top 6 next season.

    Of course it is possible, but not easy, just hope Nathan and the Charlton fanbase aren’t let down again.
  • Damned impressive deal to give Jones

    Bit risky too seeing we've not had a Manager in 4 years who has lasted a full season
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,529
    Kenny J from Gillingham was scouting at the Valley last weekend and I suspect he was looking at TT. I suspect he did not skip to his car post game, because that would have looked plain fcuking weird, but hope he saw enough of an elite League 2 defender there to give him a go. Like above, I think both TT and Hec will be leaving and while I love the fact that TT is a fellow CAFC fan, if we want a genuine promotion push next season, there is zero room for sentiment. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,594
    We are going to have to make some amazing signings to make a push from 16th to top 6 next season.

    Of course it is possible, but not easy, just hope Nathan and the Charlton fanbase aren’t let down again.
    Not sure I totally agree. With the current squad, if starting the season, I think Jones could get them top ten. However, wholesale changes needed to get us top two and those signings need to be permanent ones who are then good enough for the step up to the Championship. That started with Coventry who @RonnieMoore assures us is already Championship ready.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,594
    The Jones 4.5 year contract isn’t new news, he confirmed it himself in an interview at some point.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,315
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/charlton-athletic-owners-fully-intent-on-backing-nathan-jones-in-summer-transfer-window/

    Bit of a rehash of the OS interview but some additional info, to me at least EG

    Jones on 4.5 year contract

    Jones was in last two for Spanner job when Edwards was appointed.

    No talks with Thomas as yet over new deal.

    Aim next season is "big promotion push".

    "Ownership group, who were very, very clear that they want to back the manager in his aspirations.”
     Really don't think he'll be here next season. Same goes for Hector
    And if this talk of going for promotion is true, then neither should be. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,237
    The Jones 4.5 year contract isn’t new news, he confirmed it himself in an interview at some point.
    Fair enough, don't remember that and don't think it was given out when he joined.

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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,594
    The Jones 4.5 year contract isn’t new news, he confirmed it himself in an interview at some point.
    Fair enough, don't remember that and don't think it was given out when he joined.
    It wasn’t stated when he joined but in a later interview, weeks later, he confirmed the length of the contract.
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,224
    edited April 2024
    We are going to have to make some amazing signings to make a push from 16th to top 6 next season.

    Of course it is possible, but not easy, just hope Nathan and the Charlton fanbase aren’t let down again.
    Agreed we need a cracking summer of transfer business. 

    However, out of interest, what did Oxford (19th to 7th currently) and Lincoln (11th to 6th currently) do last summer to improve there position within one season. Wonder if they both made amazing signings. 
  • Kips
    Kips Posts: 689
    We are going to have to make some amazing signings to make a push from 16th to top 6 next season.

    Of course it is possible, but not easy, just hope Nathan and the Charlton fanbase aren’t let down again.
    Agreed we need a cracking summer of transfer business. 

    However, out of interest, what did Oxford (19th to 7th currently) and Lincoln (11th to 6th currently) do last summer to improve there position within one season. Wonder if they both made amazing signings. 

    Pompey are another example who improved considerably from last season.  In their case getting the new manager in at the back end of the season to have a look at what he had in the building would have helped I'm sure. I don't think they just made amazing signings, they also did some of their main business early too.

    So I suspect It's a variety of ingredients needed for success, and the ownership already have a great leader of the first team in place.


  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,787
    What I can pick out is that two of those three teams changed their manager around January/February time the season before…
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,473
    Interview with Methven in 'The Masthead', South East London Chamber of Commerce's quarterly business magazine.
    https://www.selondonchamber.org/masthead/
    Interview below
    https://issuu.com/benham/docs/the_masthead_may_23
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,736
    We are going to have to make some amazing signings to make a push from 16th to top 6 next season.

    Of course it is possible, but not easy, just hope Nathan and the Charlton fanbase aren’t let down again.
    Agreed we need a cracking summer of transfer business. 

    However, out of interest, what did Oxford (19th to 7th currently) and Lincoln (11th to 6th currently) do last summer to improve there position within one season. Wonder if they both made amazing signings. 
    Oxford did some good business in the summer, from memory
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,490
    se9addick said:
    Good luck “flipping” us now (if that were ever the intention!) - doubt our value has been this low in the modern era. 
    I thought that when Southall got found out. Since then ESI has made a decent profit and so did Thomas
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    Did Sandgaard make a profit from us?
  • No, TS sold us for more than he bought us for but overall made a big, multi £million loss
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,344
    edited April 2024
    Ironically it's probably only Southall and Nimer who made money out of us

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  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,362
    edited April 2024
    We are going to have to make some amazing signings to make a push from 16th to top 6 next season.

    Of course it is possible, but not easy, just hope Nathan and the Charlton fanbase aren’t let down again.
    Agreed we need a cracking summer of transfer business. 

    However, out of interest, what did Oxford (19th to 7th currently) and Lincoln (11th to 6th currently) do last summer to improve there position within one season. Wonder if they both made amazing signings. 
    Portsmouth are another example, just not as drastic as Oxford in terms of league position. 

    They had a massive turnover of players and have won promotion as champions after finishing 8th prior and will finish with a minimum of 20 points more than last season. 

    It can be done in one transfer window, Portsmouth didn't exactly have the foundations laid out for promotion imo, they've done it with John Mousinho, who hasn't even managed 100 games yet, and is very young in his managerial career. 

    Will Norris - free from Burnley - 45 apps
    Abu Kamara - loan from Norwich - 45 apps
    Conor Shaughnessy - free, Burton - 45 apps
    Kusini Yengi, free, 25 apps
    Alex Robertson, loan from Man City 25 apps
    Christian Saydee, loan from Bournemouth 35 apps

    Then there are other players who had an impact but were hindered by injury such as Regan Poole who before injury looked a real coup.

    Either way they were smart with their loans and scooped up some pretty decent free agents. Usually this is where we struggle as there's some sort of crisis at Charlton, luckily with Jones already in place this time, hopefully it encourages players to want to sign for us early.

    Anyway I've waffled a bit too much to basically say, we need to sign good players which is what we have failed to do for the most part every window

  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    doubt it
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,787
    edited April 2024
    If you believe the other forum, the ownership want an “Ipswich model” type of summer.

    I will wait to see it with my own eyes before I believe it. Especially as Ipswich’s accounts showed they spent £8m on players during the 22/23 period.


  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,016
    edited April 2024
    If you believe the other forum, the ownership want an “Ipswich model” type of summer.

    I will wait to see it with my own eyes before I believe it. Especially as Ipswich’s accounts showed they spent £8m on players during the 22/23 period.


    Seems to be differing figures around, below from another site:

    2022/23: Transfer Ins

    Total: £2,182,400


    2022/23: Transfer Outs

    Total: £510,400


    https://salarysport.com/football/ipswich-town/transfers/


  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,787
    edited April 2024
    That’s fair. Got the graph above from Kieran Maguire who is usually pretty on the mark with this kind of thing.

    The link you shared has “unknown” transfer fees listed for four players which aren’t included in the transfers in total. Plus any loan fees they might have paid?


    https://x.com/kieranmaguire/status/1771322350958518713?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    seth plum said:
    Chunes said:
    I might be wrong but I don't think these new owners came into a club with a gutted infrastructure. It was Roland who left a gutted infrastructure to Sandgaard. And TS, for all his failures, at least invested into rebuilding. The improvements at the training ground speak for themselves, the investments in the medical department, and the ultimately failed effort to gain Category 1 status. Sandgaard still managed to finish higher than this lot, having walked into a club that had been run on a gaffa-taped shoestring. Methven & Co have inherited less of a mess than TS did, and yet so far have managed to perform much worse.
    Isn’t the story that Methven met with/spoke to/contacted Sandgaard and said he could run a football club better/properly?
    You are right, judging by results (and the training ground physical development) so far Sandgaard has a better track record than all the billionaires who own apparently 95% of our shares.
    I am curious as to how somebody with apparently 5% is calling the shots. Is it a case of the tail wagging the dog, or has the dog had it’s tail ‘docked’ and yet the tail still has life in it in London, whilst the dog is out of the picture overseas?
    Like all of them, Methven is on a salary. Looks like his appearances and speak are part of his role.
  • KiwiValley
    KiwiValley Posts: 3,380
    stonemuse said:
    If you believe the other forum, the ownership want an “Ipswich model” type of summer.

    I will wait to see it with my own eyes before I believe it. Especially as Ipswich’s accounts showed they spent £8m on players during the 22/23 period.


    Seems to be differing figures around, below from another site:

    2022/23: Transfer Ins

    Total: £2,182,400


    2022/23: Transfer Outs

    Total: £510,400


    https://salarysport.com/football/ipswich-town/transfers/


    Ouch Forest Green spent up large and got relegated and are about to get relegated again. Their finances must be apocalyptic. I used to work with the current CEO. He went in after the League One relegation. He will be having some sleepless nights.
  • CAFCBill
    CAFCBill Posts: 398
    edited August 2024
    Sorry this is obviously not the right thread for this but I'm new to this forum and struggling to find the best way to search for them. I've just seen this on Youtube. Charlie clearly loves a podcast. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sk77BnfkN0&t=68s
  • Marriott110
    Marriott110 Posts: 1,528
    Is fairly standard business guff from Charlie, highlight was him originally putting the blame on the appleton hire on the ''football staff'' so Andy Scott, before in the next breath reverting to ''We'' as owners made a mistake

    as well as defining Appleton's communication skills as '' not his strongest aspect''

  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,358
    edited August 2024
    Good to hear the voice behind the purple trousers i suppose.