Next Manager Search - August 2023

ElliotCAFC

Chunes said:

Robinson sticks to his 4-2-3-1 doesn't he? Hard to see May fitting into that.

Matty Taylor didn’t do too bad in his Oxford side. 

ShootersHillGuru

NabySarr said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

I’m usually dead against ever going back because I think it rarely works but out of the realistic names being bandied about my personal choice would be Karl Robinson. Vast experience at our level. Gets teams playing attractive football and I think we currently have the squad that would fit into his preferred style. Definitely has his limitations but would be a solid choice. I’ve ruled out Moore and Jones purely because I don’t think they’d entertain coming. Having said that I doubt Robinson would either. 

I think Robinson would definitely come back and agree with your reasons that he’d be a good choice. My only doubt is I’m not sure he would be able to command the respect of the dressing room if what allegedly happened at Oxford is to be believed 

I’m afraid I’m unaware of what happened there ?

SDAddick

agim said:

Maybe the pressure got to him or something but Nathan Jones at Southampton seemed to have a fucking screw loose? 

I think I had the line "he was humbled by his Southhampton experience, but not managing at League One humbled."

Yeah, it really seemed to do something to him. I still suspect we'll see him managing a Championship team at some point this season. But if I were on a hiring committee and I saw how he handled Southampton, I would be very skeptical about hiring someone who was a previously very highly rated coach.

NabySarr

SDAddick said:

NabySarr said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

I’m usually dead against ever going back because I think it rarely works but out of the realistic names being bandied about my personal choice would be Karl Robinson. Vast experience at our level. Gets teams playing attractive football and I think we currently have the squad that would fit into his preferred style. Definitely has his limitations but would be a solid choice. I’ve ruled out Moore and Jones purely because I don’t think they’d entertain coming. Having said that I doubt Robinson would either. 

I think Robinson would definitely come back and agree with your reasons that he’d be a good choice. My only doubt is I’m not sure he would be able to command the respect of the dressing room if what allegedly happened at Oxford is to be believed 

What was alleged to have happened at Oxford?

Allegedly was having an affair with one of the women’s team. The players found out and left a sex doll in the changing room with a photo of the woman’s face on. The 2 players responsible were quickly loaned out and the club backed Robinson, but results didn’t improve and he was then sacked 

That kind of news probably travels quite quickly around dressing rooms. Think it will be a struggle for Robinson wherever he goes next 

SDAddick

ElliotCAFC said:

Chunes said:

Robinson sticks to his 4-2-3-1 doesn't he? Hard to see May fitting into that.

Matty Taylor didn’t do too bad in his Oxford side. 

Slightly different player thought. More physicality and hold up to his game. Not a target man, but I think a little more of a dynamic forward than May.

cafcdave123

NabySarr said:

SDAddick said:

NabySarr said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

I’m usually dead against ever going back because I think it rarely works but out of the realistic names being bandied about my personal choice would be Karl Robinson. Vast experience at our level. Gets teams playing attractive football and I think we currently have the squad that would fit into his preferred style. Definitely has his limitations but would be a solid choice. I’ve ruled out Moore and Jones purely because I don’t think they’d entertain coming. Having said that I doubt Robinson would either. 

I think Robinson would definitely come back and agree with your reasons that he’d be a good choice. My only doubt is I’m not sure he would be able to command the respect of the dressing room if what allegedly happened at Oxford is to be believed 

What was alleged to have happened at Oxford?

Allegedly was having an affair with one of the women’s team. The players found out and left a sex doll in the changing room with a photo of the woman’s face on. The 2 players responsible were quickly loaned out and the club backed Robinson, but results didn’t improve and he was then sacked 

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NabySarr

ElliotCAFC said:

Chunes said:

Robinson sticks to his 4-2-3-1 doesn't he? Hard to see May fitting into that.

Matty Taylor didn’t do too bad in his Oxford side. 

That was until he was allegedly one of the players loaned out for the sex doll scandal 

bertpalmer

NabySarr said:

SDAddick said:

NabySarr said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

I’m usually dead against ever going back because I think it rarely works but out of the realistic names being bandied about my personal choice would be Karl Robinson. Vast experience at our level. Gets teams playing attractive football and I think we currently have the squad that would fit into his preferred style. Definitely has his limitations but would be a solid choice. I’ve ruled out Moore and Jones purely because I don’t think they’d entertain coming. Having said that I doubt Robinson would either. 

I think Robinson would definitely come back and agree with your reasons that he’d be a good choice. My only doubt is I’m not sure he would be able to command the respect of the dressing room if what allegedly happened at Oxford is to be believed 

What was alleged to have happened at Oxford?

Allegedly was having an affair with one of the women’s team. The players found out and left a sex doll in the changing room with a photo of the woman’s face on. The 2 players responsible were quickly loaned out and the club backed Robinson, but results didn’t improve and he was then sacked 

That kind of news probably travels quite quickly around dressing rooms. Think it will be a struggle for Robinson wherever he goes next 

did he shag the doll ?

Garrymanilow

I hate the idea of bringing back any of our old managers but I honestly can't imagine having to put up with Karl Robinson again. I just cannot. I know a fair few on here liked him and rated him but I just couldn't stand all the chat that covered for a lack of enjoyable football. We had two fairly bleak seasons with him as manager, one where we finished 13th which is a joint lowest finish and one where we'd gone off the rails and Bowyer managed to get the same squad into the play-offs somehow. At Oxford despite some decent backing he only finished in the play-off spots twice and both times he lost. He hasn't been promoted out of L1 since 2014/15 despite operating almost exclusively in that league over that period. He had Roland to contend with but the transfer business doesn't look too different to back then so I don't see much changing. I at least understand the logic of bringing back managers who previously succeeded, but ones who just failed? No thanks.

NabySarr

agim said:

Maybe the pressure got to him or something but Nathan Jones at Southampton seemed to have a fucking screw loose? 

He has a very high opinion of himself as a manager and talks himself up a lot. In a premier league dressing room it was laughed at as probably a lot of the players hadn’t heard of him. At league 1 level though he is probably one of the best managers around so that kind of talk is maybe less cringe and works better with players lower down the pyramid? 

ShootersHillGuru

Garrymanilow said:

I hate the idea of bringing back any of our old managers but I honestly can't imagine having to put up with Karl Robinson again. I just cannot. I know a fair few on here liked him and rated him but I just couldn't stand all the chat that covered for a lack of enjoyable football. We had two fairly bleak seasons with him as manager, one where we finished 13th which is a joint lowest finish and one where we'd gone off the rails and Bowyer managed to get the same squad into the play-offs somehow. At Oxford despite some decent backing he only finished in the play-off spots twice and both times he lost. He hasn't been promoted out of L1 since 2014/15 despite operating almost exclusively in that league over that period. He had Roland to contend with but the transfer business doesn't look too different to back then so I don't see much changing. I at least understand the logic of bringing back managers who previously succeeded, but ones who just failed? No thanks.

I doubt we’ll get better. 

fenaddick

NabySarr said:

agim said:

Maybe the pressure got to him or something but Nathan Jones at Southampton seemed to have a fucking screw loose? 

He has a very high opinion of himself as a manager and talks himself up a lot. In a premier league dressing room it was laughed at as probably a lot of the players hadn’t heard of him. At league 1 level though he is probably one of the best managers around so that kind of talk is maybe less cringe and works better with players lower down the pyramid? 

Problem Jones is going to have is everyone saw it implode at Southampton including L1 players. His methods worked at Luton but nowhere else and I'd imagine that will be even more true now. 

iaitch

bertpalmer said:

NabySarr said:

SDAddick said:

NabySarr said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

I’m usually dead against ever going back because I think it rarely works but out of the realistic names being bandied about my personal choice would be Karl Robinson. Vast experience at our level. Gets teams playing attractive football and I think we currently have the squad that would fit into his preferred style. Definitely has his limitations but would be a solid choice. I’ve ruled out Moore and Jones purely because I don’t think they’d entertain coming. Having said that I doubt Robinson would either. 

I think Robinson would definitely come back and agree with your reasons that he’d be a good choice. My only doubt is I’m not sure he would be able to command the respect of the dressing room if what allegedly happened at Oxford is to be believed 

What was alleged to have happened at Oxford?

Allegedly was having an affair with one of the women’s team. The players found out and left a sex doll in the changing room with a photo of the woman’s face on. The 2 players responsible were quickly loaned out and the club backed Robinson, but results didn’t improve and he was then sacked 

That kind of news probably travels quite quickly around dressing rooms. Think it will be a struggle for Robinson wherever he goes next 

did he shag the doll ?

No it went down on him and he had to get the leak repaired.

ShootersHillGuru

NabySarr said:

agim said:

Maybe the pressure got to him or something but Nathan Jones at Southampton seemed to have a fucking screw loose? 

He has a very high opinion of himself as a manager and talks himself up a lot. In a premier league dressing room it was laughed at as probably a lot of the players hadn’t heard of him. At league 1 level though he is probably one of the best managers around so that kind of talk is maybe less cringe and works better with players lower down the pyramid? 

I think football dressing rooms are pretty tough environments and any chink of weakness that is exposed would be ruthlessly exploited. If he’s any way as insane as he came across at Southampton then he’ll be ridiculed behind his back. Talking himself up would make it worse. It’s a no from me. 

ProperCharlton

FirenzeAddick said:

I think some of the reporting is a little unfair on Andy Scott, Cawley's article does state that he has contacted a number of managers both in and out of work to ask if they would like to be considered for the role (as well as those applying separately). 

That's a standard process - the fact that Ferguson said no is only being reported for headlines - DF basically said no thanks I'm happy where I am, so he comes off the list. If Bonner, Jones, Moore etc have all been approached and remain on that list then I'm sure our collective view would be different, but we won't know that just yet.

I agree its poor to offer Powell an interim role and a stupid own goal. 

There's too much reactionary emotion and noise, it wasn't going to work under Holden and they've made their decision. I'm watching on intently, they're at a crossroads early on with the fan base... lets see how they respond this week.

This is exactly how I see it. I think some of our fanbase need to relax a little bit.

RedChaser

iaitch said:

bertpalmer said:

NabySarr said:

SDAddick said:

NabySarr said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

I’m usually dead against ever going back because I think it rarely works but out of the realistic names being bandied about my personal choice would be Karl Robinson. Vast experience at our level. Gets teams playing attractive football and I think we currently have the squad that would fit into his preferred style. Definitely has his limitations but would be a solid choice. I’ve ruled out Moore and Jones purely because I don’t think they’d entertain coming. Having said that I doubt Robinson would either. 

I think Robinson would definitely come back and agree with your reasons that he’d be a good choice. My only doubt is I’m not sure he would be able to command the respect of the dressing room if what allegedly happened at Oxford is to be believed 

What was alleged to have happened at Oxford?

Allegedly was having an affair with one of the women’s team. The players found out and left a sex doll in the changing room with a photo of the woman’s face on. The 2 players responsible were quickly loaned out and the club backed Robinson, but results didn’t improve and he was then sacked 

That kind of news probably travels quite quickly around dressing rooms. Think it will be a struggle for Robinson wherever he goes next 

did he shag the doll ?

No it went down on him and he had to get the leak repaired.

That’s what happens when you use the tactics board with pins in it, schoolboy error 😏.

golfaddick

_MrDick said:

Andy Scott has got his work cut out this week. Trying to sign new players and bring in a new manager. Hope he can multi-task 

Will probably muddle it all up & we get Nathan Jones at right back & Dabo as our new manager 

Garrymanilow

ShootersHillGuru said:

Garrymanilow said:

I hate the idea of bringing back any of our old managers but I honestly can't imagine having to put up with Karl Robinson again. I just cannot. I know a fair few on here liked him and rated him but I just couldn't stand all the chat that covered for a lack of enjoyable football. We had two fairly bleak seasons with him as manager, one where we finished 13th which is a joint lowest finish and one where we'd gone off the rails and Bowyer managed to get the same squad into the play-offs somehow. At Oxford despite some decent backing he only finished in the play-off spots twice and both times he lost. He hasn't been promoted out of L1 since 2014/15 despite operating almost exclusively in that league over that period. He had Roland to contend with but the transfer business doesn't look too different to back then so I don't see much changing. I at least understand the logic of bringing back managers who previously succeeded, but ones who just failed? No thanks.

I doubt we’ll get better. 

Be nice to try though. I still remember the 8 game winless streak, or the 1 win in 8 that followed three games after that. This was a team that had Amos, a fit JFC, Konsa, Dasilva, Kashi, Bauer, Fosu, Solly, Aribo, Pearce and Ricky Holmes and still had to be rescued by Bowyer getting more than a quarter of our overall points in 9 games. The season before that we won 1 game in 14 at one point, which was a worse run than Slade ever went on that season. I think that Robinson's cheeky chappy charm and our overwhelming hatred of Roland actually spared Robinson from proper scrutiny a lot of the time.

bertpalmer

iaitch said:

bertpalmer said:

NabySarr said:

SDAddick said:

NabySarr said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

I’m usually dead against ever going back because I think it rarely works but out of the realistic names being bandied about my personal choice would be Karl Robinson. Vast experience at our level. Gets teams playing attractive football and I think we currently have the squad that would fit into his preferred style. Definitely has his limitations but would be a solid choice. I’ve ruled out Moore and Jones purely because I don’t think they’d entertain coming. Having said that I doubt Robinson would either. 

I think Robinson would definitely come back and agree with your reasons that he’d be a good choice. My only doubt is I’m not sure he would be able to command the respect of the dressing room if what allegedly happened at Oxford is to be believed 

What was alleged to have happened at Oxford?

Allegedly was having an affair with one of the women’s team. The players found out and left a sex doll in the changing room with a photo of the woman’s face on. The 2 players responsible were quickly loaned out and the club backed Robinson, but results didn’t improve and he was then sacked 

That kind of news probably travels quite quickly around dressing rooms. Think it will be a struggle for Robinson wherever he goes next 

did he shag the doll ?

No it went down on him and he had to get the leak repaired.

So inflation is down,i dont believe it  !!!

Starinnaddick

I imagine Chris Powell would feel insulted to only be offered the "interim" manager job even if he has no intention of managing again. 

grumpyaddick

The historical evidence proves that changing the manager will make zero difference to the outcome except maybe for an ephemeral bounce in motivation before the rot sets back in.

Following the play off final under Bowyer - we have lost him, Adkins, Jackson, Garner and Holden. They can't all have been inept. 

The downward spiral continues at an alarming rate under these so called 'football professionals'.

The only relevant qualifications for this job are to be cheap, available and compliant. 

 I am very relieved  that Chris Powell did not sully his reputation on this bunch of hopeless charlatans. 

SDAddick

fenaddick said:

NabySarr said:

agim said:

Maybe the pressure got to him or something but Nathan Jones at Southampton seemed to have a fucking screw loose? 

He has a very high opinion of himself as a manager and talks himself up a lot. In a premier league dressing room it was laughed at as probably a lot of the players hadn’t heard of him. At league 1 level though he is probably one of the best managers around so that kind of talk is maybe less cringe and works better with players lower down the pyramid? 

Problem Jones is going to have is everyone saw it implode at Southampton including L1 players. His methods worked at Luton but nowhere else and I'd imagine that will be even more true now. 

Yeah that would be my concern: how drastically and publicly it fell apart at Southampton. 

I think he may want to take a little time so that it's less fresh in the memory. 

Taxi_Lad

Robbo and a sex doll??  Begs the question which is more full of hot air 🤔

Blucher

Wheresmeticket? said:

barstool said:

The rush to sack Holden is strange, either they have someone lined up or contractually maybe an extra compensation was about to cost them more after so many games etc. 

They needed someone to blame in a hurry, and wanted to give the impression of a decisive, strong leadership who, how does it go?  "don't do failure".  Because they are American.  Apparently that makes a difference.

I seem to recall the great Katrien telling us that Roland “didn’t do failure” either

soapboxsam

iainambler said:

fenaddick said:

Pretty insulting to ask Powell to do it as interim to be honest 

I expect a contributing factor to turning it down - although he may of course have bigger fish to fry.

Similar reason why Lee Bowyer would turn the job down ?

Lee has bigger fish to catch.

Garrymanilow

Blucher said:

Wheresmeticket? said:

barstool said:

The rush to sack Holden is strange, either they have someone lined up or contractually maybe an extra compensation was about to cost them more after so many games etc. 

They needed someone to blame in a hurry, and wanted to give the impression of a decisive, strong leadership who, how does it go?  "don't do failure".  Because they are American.  Apparently that makes a difference.

I seem to recall the great Katrien telling us that Roland “didn’t do failure” either

One of the very few correct things she ever said. It's true that Roland doesn't 'do' failure, because he refuses to accept that he's failed and is rich enough to keep his nails dug in until he's proven right on his terms. That's why he's still got The Valley. He wants £50m because a liar told him he could pay it and now he reckons that's his price point. If he can get £50m for the assets then he offsets the money he spaffed up the wall owning us and can tell everyone it was a successful business venture. If that kills us in the meantime then oh well.

Chippycafc

Someone has just text me and said Bowyer has got the job...

shirty5

Chippycafc said:

Someone has just text me and said Bowyer has got the job...

Gary, Ian or Lee

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