Thank god for that... Really wouldnt want Ferguson here - If he was any good, he wouldnt have spent most of his career at this level.
I just want someone to get us out of league one though
How do you prepare for survival / build a Championship team, if your Manager has a shite track record at that level.
You either have to hope they buck the trend, or get rid...
How do you build on that promotion having to replace the Manager too?
I'd prefer a Manager who can get us promoted from both League One and the Championship in the future - Mark Robins for example almost achieved that feat with Coventry a few months ago.
Thats a bit unfair isn't it? He has only managed Peterborough in the championship, it would be difficult for any manager to have kept them up given their budget.
He's won promotion from League One three times, looks like he actually kept Posh up at the second attempt, but was sacked each year they ended up relegated.
Sorry i wrongly worded that. I meant to say hes got them promoted but due to probably having a low budget it would be hard for all managers to keep them up.
Apparently we are going through all the Ferguson's. We tried an audacious bid with Sir Alex's care home. Then we moved onto his son's. And apparently we have now turned to Massey. Not much tactical nous but can flatten anything placed in front of it...
If Ferguson turned down the chance to talk to us it must mean that MacAnthony gave him permission to.
Does anyone else think this is a massive smokescreen to make it look like we didn’t have someone in mind before Holden was sacked. I think 3 people lined up for manager, assistant and gk coach already.
If Ferguson turned down the chance to talk to us it must mean that MacAnthony gave him permission to.
I suspect it's the opposite of that. I doubt Ferguson was given the choice.
MacAnthony confirmed the approach, but revealed that Ferguson had declined the opportunity to enter talks with the Addicks.
'I have an agreement with Darren that I would tell him about any approach respectfully and he can then decide if he wants to talk to club,' MacAnthony said, as reported by Peterborough Telegraph.
'Thankfully he declined and fair play to him as he loves our project.'
"Darren really wants to get Peterborough promoted this season, so that he can then exit the proper way, halfway through the first season in the Championship, when Grant McCann takes over again.
Darren can then return for his 17th spell in charge in 25/26."
i'll say it til the end of time, it might not happen today, or tomorrow, or next year, but Chris Powell has unfinished business here with us. The timing is everything but i will stand by it.
you can tell when he talks about us he wants to as much as we do as well
Im probably at the lowest ebb regarding following Charlton.....cant really identify anyone as being "Charlton" so the next manager will only be around for a maximum of 12 months if recent history dictates. Johnson for me is a definite no....he'd be the straw that broke the camels back. Robinson....why?......Moore would be a statement so that rules him out doesnt it. Scraping the barrel the rest of them. Ive switched off Charlton TV after 40 mins the last two games and Ive never done that before.....shows how disillusioned Iam about the club. Same shit, different names.
Lowest ebb is the club getting relegated and playing that first game the next season in division 3 in front of 3k and losing, or entering bankruptcy, or moving to Milton Keynes being touted in the papers, or leaving the Valley to go and play at Selhurst. Sacking another manager that’s just lost 5 games on the bounce after not being able to work out how to stop the basic errors that’s costing us the games isn’t a lowest ebb moment.
Nope. I've lived through all those scenarios bar the league 2 if that's what you were referencing. Old enough to have been following Charlton through the short lived Milton Keynes speculation and I was a season ticket holder from day one at Selhurst.
The difference is I had an affinity with the club and players. Players that worked hard regardless of ability. We had a structure and people within it that cared.
Compare that to the endless player/ manager/ owners coming and going and what are you left with? A shell of what was once a proud club. That's my lowest ebb.
It's a difficult time because we're the first club to sack their manager, and as such, interesting managers at other clubs haven't come free yet.
I would not have been thrilled by Ferguson, but we could certainly do far worse.
I'm sort of desperately looking at teams in the Championship and League One that have started slowly. I don't think Rotherham would part with Taylor, especially early on, but he would be a great get. Xisco at Sheff Wed would also be interesting, but I don't know that he'd need to drop down to League One unless he was set on managing and succeeding in England.
So back to reality:
Darren Moore: By all accounts a lovely guy. Think he did the right think being asked to be paid like a Championship manager at Sheff Wed. I just think he's probably holding out for a Championship job, and more importantly, I don't think his style fits our squad. At all.
Bowyer: Never go back. 2018/19 was great. I think Bowyer did the best he could in 19/20. But I think people forget just how bereft of ideas he was at the end of his time here. And generally, he accomplished a lot here and I think it would be a real risk to him coming back now.
Robinson: Okay, my unpopular opinion is that this is a squad that would suit Robinson's system and style of play. Would I bring him back? Only if I absolutely couldn't get anyone else. But he did pretty well at Oxford, seemed to become a little more tactically flexible.
Bonner: I'm always a little worried about giving managers who have been at one club for a while a big step up. He's definitely done well with the resources at his disposal at Cambridge. 4-2-3-1 is what I think this squad will end up playing.
Ritchie Wellens: I think this is very, very unlikely but he obviously did incredibly well with Orient last year. I like the way he wants to play football even if I think he made a poor substitution bringing off Piggot and not replacing him with a CF on opening day.
Grant McCann: Makes sense that we would move on from Ferguson to McCann.
Michael Appleton: I no longer know what type of manager Appleton is, I only know him as a meme.
Nathan Jones: I suspect he was (or should have been) humbled by his time at Soton. I don't think he was League One humbled, and I don't think a diamond suits this team.
Euell/Pearce: I doubt Pearce is in line for it. Euell seems like a decent coach but I feel like he needs a senior managerial job, and also, I feel like this club could use some fresh blood from a coaching perspective.
Steve Cotterill: Cheekbones you could set your watch by. He's been around forever, and I really struggle to remember any of his sides. That's not necessarily a knock on him, it might be more about me and my memory, but he seems to be gradually working his way down the leagues.
Danny Cowley: There was a time when he seemed quite intriguing, but things didn't end well at Hudds and didn't seem to go well at Portsmouth and I'm now quite skeptical. I think he is a cautionary tale for someone like a Bonner--making the step up and falling short.
Warburton: He did alright with QPR, but it's weird to me that he hasn't had a job since. I don't know if that was by choice.
Lee Johnson: There was a time when he was considered a bright young manager. It will be him I suspect.
It's, not an inspiring list. I really hope Rodwell has a deep rolladex with coaches who aren't his friends. I do think this could be a good job for a Championship Assistant looking to break into management (what we tried to do with Beale). Right now it just feels like there isn't a whole lot out there. I think Holden had to go, he'd hit his ceiling and he was bumping up against it. But sacking a manager is only half of the equation. Would this lot be okay to let Pearcey go 2-3 weeks to see who comes available? I doubt it given how poorly we've started, but we'll see.
It's a difficult time because we're the first club to sack their manager, and as such, interesting managers at other clubs haven't come free yet.
I would not have been thrilled by Ferguson, but we could certainly do far worse.
I'm sort of desperately looking at teams in the Championship and League One that have started slowly. I don't think Rotherham would part with Taylor, especially early on, but he would be a great get. Xisco at Sheff Wed would also be interesting, but I don't know that he'd need to drop down to League One unless he was set on managing and succeeding in England.
So back to reality:
Darren Moore: By all accounts a lovely guy. Think he did the right think being asked to be paid like a Championship manager at Sheff Wed. I just think he's probably holding out for a Championship job, and more importantly, I don't think his style fits our squad. At all.
Bowyer: Never go back. 2018/19 was great. I think Bowyer did the best he could in 19/20. But I think people forget just how bereft of ideas he was at the end of his time here. And generally, he accomplished a lot here and I think it would be a real risk to him coming back now.
Robinson: Okay, my unpopular opinion is that this is a squad that would suit Robinson's system and style of play. Would I bring him back? Only if I absolutely couldn't get anyone else. But he did pretty well at Oxford, seemed to become a little more tactically flexible.
Bonner: I'm always a little worried about giving managers who have been at one club for a while a big step up. He's definitely done well with the resources at his disposal at Cambridge. 4-2-3-1 is what I think this squad will end up playing.
Ritchie Wellens: I think this is very, very unlikely but he obviously did incredibly well with Orient last year. I like the way he wants to play football even if I think he made a poor substitution bringing off Piggot and not replacing him with a CF on opening day.
Grant McCann: Makes sense that we would move on from Ferguson to McCann.
Michael Appleton: I no longer know what type of manager Appleton is, I only know him as a meme.
Nathan Jones: I suspect he was (or should have been) humbled by his time at Soton. I don't think he was League One humbled, and I don't think a diamond suits this team.
Euell/Pearce: I doubt Pearce is in line for it. Euell seems like a decent coach but I feel like he needs a senior managerial job, and also, I feel like this club could use some fresh blood from a coaching perspective.
Steve Cotterill: Cheekbones you could set your watch by. He's been around forever, and I really struggle to remember any of his sides. That's not necessarily a knock on him, it might be more about me and my memory, but he seems to be gradually working his way down the leagues.
Danny Cowley: There was a time when he seemed quite intriguing, but things didn't end well at Hudds and didn't seem to go well at Portsmouth and I'm now quite skeptical. I think he is a cautionary tale for someone like a Bonner--making the step up and falling short.
Warburton: He did alright with QPR, but it's weird to me that he hasn't had a job since. I don't know if that was by choice.
Lee Johnson: There was a time when he was considered a bright young manager. It will be him I suspect.
It's, not an inspiring list. I really hope Rodwell has a deep rolladex with coaches who aren't his friends. I do think this could be a good job for a Championship Assistant looking to break into management (what we tried to do with Beale). Right now it just feels like there isn't a whole lot out there. I think Holden had to go, he'd hit his ceiling and he was bumping up against it. But sacking a manager is only half of the equation. Would this lot be okay to let Pearcey go 2-3 weeks to see who comes available? I doubt it given how poorly we've started, but we'll see.
I know you took a lot of time making this post but Chris Powell is abscent from that list;
Reason - he "gets" us - Holden made a big "thing" about the no dick head rule - CP didn't even feel the need to explain that as a prerequisit - it was a natural assumption for any player coming here. Ability - he has previous significant success - he's won this league once at a canter Opportunity - he is available and not in current employment Financial - it wouldn't cost us a major amount since he is coming from a coaching role Most importantly - gives the fan base the kind of lift that is potentially only possible with one other encumbent and dare I forget Will - unfinished business, affinity with the fans, wanting to prove he is a top level manager
It's a difficult time because we're the first club to sack their manager, and as such, interesting managers at other clubs haven't come free yet.
I would not have been thrilled by Ferguson, but we could certainly do far worse.
I'm sort of desperately looking at teams in the Championship and League One that have started slowly. I don't think Rotherham would part with Taylor, especially early on, but he would be a great get. Xisco at Sheff Wed would also be interesting, but I don't know that he'd need to drop down to League One unless he was set on managing and succeeding in England.
So back to reality:
Darren Moore: By all accounts a lovely guy. Think he did the right think being asked to be paid like a Championship manager at Sheff Wed. I just think he's probably holding out for a Championship job, and more importantly, I don't think his style fits our squad. At all.
Bowyer: Never go back. 2018/19 was great. I think Bowyer did the best he could in 19/20. But I think people forget just how bereft of ideas he was at the end of his time here. And generally, he accomplished a lot here and I think it would be a real risk to him coming back now.
Robinson: Okay, my unpopular opinion is that this is a squad that would suit Robinson's system and style of play. Would I bring him back? Only if I absolutely couldn't get anyone else. But he did pretty well at Oxford, seemed to become a little more tactically flexible.
Bonner: I'm always a little worried about giving managers who have been at one club for a while a big step up. He's definitely done well with the resources at his disposal at Cambridge. 4-2-3-1 is what I think this squad will end up playing.
Ritchie Wellens: I think this is very, very unlikely but he obviously did incredibly well with Orient last year. I like the way he wants to play football even if I think he made a poor substitution bringing off Piggot and not replacing him with a CF on opening day.
Grant McCann: Makes sense that we would move on from Ferguson to McCann.
Michael Appleton: I no longer know what type of manager Appleton is, I only know him as a meme.
Nathan Jones: I suspect he was (or should have been) humbled by his time at Soton. I don't think he was League One humbled, and I don't think a diamond suits this team.
Euell/Pearce: I doubt Pearce is in line for it. Euell seems like a decent coach but I feel like he needs a senior managerial job, and also, I feel like this club could use some fresh blood from a coaching perspective.
Steve Cotterill: Cheekbones you could set your watch by. He's been around forever, and I really struggle to remember any of his sides. That's not necessarily a knock on him, it might be more about me and my memory, but he seems to be gradually working his way down the leagues.
Danny Cowley: There was a time when he seemed quite intriguing, but things didn't end well at Hudds and didn't seem to go well at Portsmouth and I'm now quite skeptical. I think he is a cautionary tale for someone like a Bonner--making the step up and falling short.
Warburton: He did alright with QPR, but it's weird to me that he hasn't had a job since. I don't know if that was by choice.
Lee Johnson: There was a time when he was considered a bright young manager. It will be him I suspect.
It's, not an inspiring list. I really hope Rodwell has a deep rolladex with coaches who aren't his friends. I do think this could be a good job for a Championship Assistant looking to break into management (what we tried to do with Beale). Right now it just feels like there isn't a whole lot out there. I think Holden had to go, he'd hit his ceiling and he was bumping up against it. But sacking a manager is only half of the equation. Would this lot be okay to let Pearcey go 2-3 weeks to see who comes available? I doubt it given how poorly we've started, but we'll see.
Warburton left Brentford because he wanted final veto as to who they signed. As much as I wouldn't mind him getting the job, I'm sure one sniff of how this regime works will mean that he won't even get to the stage of putting his application in.
It's a difficult time because we're the first club to sack their manager, and as such, interesting managers at other clubs haven't come free yet.
I would not have been thrilled by Ferguson, but we could certainly do far worse.
I'm sort of desperately looking at teams in the Championship and League One that have started slowly. I don't think Rotherham would part with Taylor, especially early on, but he would be a great get. Xisco at Sheff Wed would also be interesting, but I don't know that he'd need to drop down to League One unless he was set on managing and succeeding in England.
So back to reality:
Darren Moore: By all accounts a lovely guy. Think he did the right think being asked to be paid like a Championship manager at Sheff Wed. I just think he's probably holding out for a Championship job, and more importantly, I don't think his style fits our squad. At all.
Bowyer: Never go back. 2018/19 was great. I think Bowyer did the best he could in 19/20. But I think people forget just how bereft of ideas he was at the end of his time here. And generally, he accomplished a lot here and I think it would be a real risk to him coming back now.
Robinson: Okay, my unpopular opinion is that this is a squad that would suit Robinson's system and style of play. Would I bring him back? Only if I absolutely couldn't get anyone else. But he did pretty well at Oxford, seemed to become a little more tactically flexible.
Bonner: I'm always a little worried about giving managers who have been at one club for a while a big step up. He's definitely done well with the resources at his disposal at Cambridge. 4-2-3-1 is what I think this squad will end up playing.
Ritchie Wellens: I think this is very, very unlikely but he obviously did incredibly well with Orient last year. I like the way he wants to play football even if I think he made a poor substitution bringing off Piggot and not replacing him with a CF on opening day.
Grant McCann: Makes sense that we would move on from Ferguson to McCann.
Michael Appleton: I no longer know what type of manager Appleton is, I only know him as a meme.
Nathan Jones: I suspect he was (or should have been) humbled by his time at Soton. I don't think he was League One humbled, and I don't think a diamond suits this team.
Euell/Pearce: I doubt Pearce is in line for it. Euell seems like a decent coach but I feel like he needs a senior managerial job, and also, I feel like this club could use some fresh blood from a coaching perspective.
Steve Cotterill: Cheekbones you could set your watch by. He's been around forever, and I really struggle to remember any of his sides. That's not necessarily a knock on him, it might be more about me and my memory, but he seems to be gradually working his way down the leagues.
Danny Cowley: There was a time when he seemed quite intriguing, but things didn't end well at Hudds and didn't seem to go well at Portsmouth and I'm now quite skeptical. I think he is a cautionary tale for someone like a Bonner--making the step up and falling short.
Warburton: He did alright with QPR, but it's weird to me that he hasn't had a job since. I don't know if that was by choice.
Lee Johnson: There was a time when he was considered a bright young manager. It will be him I suspect.
It's, not an inspiring list. I really hope Rodwell has a deep rolladex with coaches who aren't his friends. I do think this could be a good job for a Championship Assistant looking to break into management (what we tried to do with Beale). Right now it just feels like there isn't a whole lot out there. I think Holden had to go, he'd hit his ceiling and he was bumping up against it. But sacking a manager is only half of the equation. Would this lot be okay to let Pearcey go 2-3 weeks to see who comes available? I doubt it given how poorly we've started, but we'll see.
I'm surprised Leam Richardson doesn't seem to be fancied by the bookies. He got Wigan promoted from L1 not long ago, so has proven success at this level (plus as assistant to Paul Cook), and been available since they sacked him a year ago, so might be "desperate" to get back into management
Leam Richardson, Darren Moore, got promoted with the highest spending teams.
I believe Richardson is on the shortlist
How is that possible, if the 'Skint' brigade are to be believed?
Certain set of fans been against the group from day 1 and always going to say that.. Holden just cost 500K to sack.
Those fans, also believe Holden is blameless. For me, it is both parties, we haven't got enough players through the door, that is either because we haven't sold the club well enough, or didn't want to work with Holden.
Holden wanted a smaller squad of around 16 players, plus academy players coming through, he got his main man in May, despite better options being available to sign.
Not sure many clubs in league One have spent as much as us this year in transfer fees, loan fees or signing on fees.
Suppose the next appointment and the type of contact, will suggest if they are skint or not!
i'll say it til the end of time, it might not happen today, or tomorrow, or next year, but Chris Powell has unfinished business here with us. The timing is everything but i will stand by it.
you can tell when he talks about us he wants to as much as we do as well
I love Powell but wouldn’t want him working with these chancers.
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No credit given for the attempt... keep trying!
Maybe he'll try to get himself sacked on Saturday, by picking a weird team and making himself look incompetent. It worked for Holden.
MacAnthony confirmed the approach, but revealed that Ferguson had declined the opportunity to enter talks with the Addicks.
'I have an agreement with Darren that I would tell him about any approach respectfully and he can then decide if he wants to talk to club,' MacAnthony said, as reported by Peterborough Telegraph.
'Thankfully he declined and fair play to him as he loves our project.'
Darren can then return for his 17th spell in charge in 25/26."
you can tell when he talks about us he wants to as much as we do as well
Compare that to the endless player/ manager/ owners coming and going and what are you left with? A shell of what was once a proud club. That's my lowest ebb.
I would not have been thrilled by Ferguson, but we could certainly do far worse.
I'm sort of desperately looking at teams in the Championship and League One that have started slowly. I don't think Rotherham would part with Taylor, especially early on, but he would be a great get. Xisco at Sheff Wed would also be interesting, but I don't know that he'd need to drop down to League One unless he was set on managing and succeeding in England.
So back to reality:
It's, not an inspiring list. I really hope Rodwell has a deep rolladex with coaches who aren't his friends. I do think this could be a good job for a Championship Assistant looking to break into management (what we tried to do with Beale). Right now it just feels like there isn't a whole lot out there. I think Holden had to go, he'd hit his ceiling and he was bumping up against it. But sacking a manager is only half of the equation. Would this lot be okay to let Pearcey go 2-3 weeks to see who comes available? I doubt it given how poorly we've started, but we'll see.
Reason - he "gets" us - Holden made a big "thing" about the no dick head rule - CP didn't even feel the need to explain that as a prerequisit - it was a natural assumption for any player coming here.
Ability - he has previous significant success - he's won this league once at a canter
Opportunity - he is available and not in current employment
Financial - it wouldn't cost us a major amount since he is coming from a coaching role
Most importantly - gives the fan base the kind of lift that is potentially only possible with one other encumbent
and dare I forget Will - unfinished business, affinity with the fans, wanting to prove he is a top level manager
I'm surprised Leam Richardson doesn't seem to be fancied by the bookies. He got Wigan promoted from L1 not long ago, so has proven success at this level (plus as assistant to Paul Cook), and been available since they sacked him a year ago, so might be "desperate" to get back into management
Those fans, also believe Holden is blameless. For me, it is both parties, we haven't got enough players through the door, that is either because we haven't sold the club well enough, or didn't want to work with Holden.
Holden wanted a smaller squad of around 16 players, plus academy players coming through, he got his main man in May, despite better options being available to sign.
Not sure many clubs in league One have spent as much as us this year in transfer fees, loan fees or signing on fees.
Suppose the next appointment and the type of contact, will suggest if they are skint or not!