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POST MATCH THREAD : Charlton Athletic Vs Fleetwood Town : Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Fleetwood will be in League 2 next year and although I’m pleased with any win, I found the wild celebrations of some fans at the end, bizarre. The first half was so poor and May’s goal saved the players an almighty blast from the stands.In the next two weeks the new manager MUST sort out the defence and pick a team style that the players are comfortable with. The defence looks as unstable as a man on a one legged stool and this has to change. What’s happened to Hector? He looks a shadow of last season.The current squad needs fresh voices guiding them I believe, so I hope whoever the new manager is, he brings in a few staff who will ‘fire a few fucks into them’ as my father would say!
I really like Asiimwe and Anderson but I’m hoping they’ll feature more from the bench going forward and this will aid their development.Chem Campbell looks a good prospect and I think if we steady the ship he’ll do well for us.
Leaburn and May will be quality together I believe and we may have our best strike partnership in a long time. 🙏
If we can get a new manager in who can steady the defence and sort out our shape and if we can keep Leaburn and May fit and if we can get Fraser and Camara back, whilst two or three of the new lads solidify us then a few wins in a row could change the outlook going forward.One thing for sure is that we’ll have to be a lot lot better than we were today to get mid table, let alone top 6 but you never know…15 -
And thats why he's decided to blast them imo. He had no confidence after missing 2 in pre-season & just decided to hammer them.down the middle.aliwibble said:
He was rubbish on pens in pre-season though.follett said:
He’s taken two pens this season and scored two? He’s a very talented striker I’m sure he will mix them upRoanRedNY said:felt like a relegation 6 pointer and a win’s a win. Take the 3 points and build on that. Meantime, alfie’s gonna get sussed on those pens - they are not good2 -
Fraser or Leaburn on pens for me, when on the pitch.golfaddick said:
And thats why he's decided to blast them imo. He had no confidence after missing 2 in pre-season & just decided to hammer them.down the middle.aliwibble said:
He was rubbish on pens in pre-season though.follett said:
He’s taken two pens this season and scored two? He’s a very talented striker I’m sure he will mix them upRoanRedNY said:felt like a relegation 6 pointer and a win’s a win. Take the 3 points and build on that. Meantime, alfie’s gonna get sussed on those pens - they are not good1 -
Jeez, when did your father say that?mart77 said:Fleetwood will be in League 2 next year and although I’m pleased with any win, I found the wild celebrations of some fans at the end, bizarre. The first half was so poor and May’s goal saved the players an almighty blast from the stands.In the next two weeks the new manager MUST sort out the defence and pick a team style that the players are comfortable with. The defence looks as unstable as a man on a one legged stool and this has to change. What’s happened to Hector? He looks a shadow of last season.The current squad needs fresh voices guiding them I believe, so I hope whoever the new manager is, he brings in a few staff who will ‘fire a few fucks into them’ as my father would say!
I really like Asiimwe and Anderson but I’m hoping they’ll feature more from the bench going forward and this will aid their development.Chem Campbell looks a good prospect and I think if we steady the ship he’ll do well for us.
Leaburn and May will be quality together I believe and we may have our best strike partnership in a long time. 🙏
If we can get a new manager in who can steady the defence and sort out our shape and if we can keep Leaburn and May fit and if we can get Fraser and Camara back, whilst two or three of the new lads solidify us then a few wins in a row could change the outlook going forward.One thing for sure is that we’ll have to be a lot lot better than we were today to get mid table, let alone top 6 but you never know…
On second thoughts, perhaps it's best we don't know ....5 -
Poor first half, who would have thought that Jayden Stockley is good with his head and left unmarked in front of goal he would score!
Thought May's goal was pretty decent. Dobbo, Chem and Corey were the standout performances for me.
I'm a bid AMB fan but Isted did ok, without a lot of pressure
The second half lasted 104 minutes or so and add on the 3 minutes from the first half and that was a pretty long game117 minutes!
Deserved the win and it could have been by a cricket score or lost by the odd goal.0 -
You hear it a lot in Ireland @Off_it especially in relation to watching hurling in my house. Irish equivalent of ‘Get into them, fuck em up’ 😂👍🏼Off_it said:
Jeez, when did your father say that?mart77 said:Fleetwood will be in League 2 next year and although I’m pleased with any win, I found the wild celebrations of some fans at the end, bizarre. The first half was so poor and May’s goal saved the players an almighty blast from the stands.In the next two weeks the new manager MUST sort out the defence and pick a team style that the players are comfortable with. The defence looks as unstable as a man on a one legged stool and this has to change. What’s happened to Hector? He looks a shadow of last season.The current squad needs fresh voices guiding them I believe, so I hope whoever the new manager is, he brings in a few staff who will ‘fire a few fucks into them’ as my father would say!
I really like Asiimwe and Anderson but I’m hoping they’ll feature more from the bench going forward and this will aid their development.Chem Campbell looks a good prospect and I think if we steady the ship he’ll do well for us.
Leaburn and May will be quality together I believe and we may have our best strike partnership in a long time. 🙏
If we can get a new manager in who can steady the defence and sort out our shape and if we can keep Leaburn and May fit and if we can get Fraser and Camara back, whilst two or three of the new lads solidify us then a few wins in a row could change the outlook going forward.One thing for sure is that we’ll have to be a lot lot better than we were today to get mid table, let alone top 6 but you never know…
On second thoughts, perhaps it's best we don't know ....3 -
My buddy eventually got through the tunnel and arrived in the 84th minute0
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A deserved win in the end after an unpromising start, with their winger beating Edun far too easily and putting over a beautiful cross, which Stockley despatched with ease. It might have been an idea for one of our central defenders to pick up their main aerial threat as he wandered into the box, rather than leaving it to young Anderson.
By that stage, we’d already had a let off, after Stockley hit the underside of the bar with the sort of free kick he never remotely managed for us (or anyone else, so far as I’m aware).
We carried our usual threat down the left with CBT, while Alfie May passed up an excellent opportunity when he completely missed a lovely low cross from Tyreece Campbell. Fortunately, his namesake, Chem, threaded a beautiful through ball through for Alfie to equalise just before half time. Just as well, as we had been pretty toothless up until then and vulnerable against a well-drilled and muscular Fleetwood side, who had certainly had the better of things and should have gone in ahead at half-time.
I thought we were much better in the second half, moving the ball more quickly and putting some decent passing moves together, with Fleetwood offering practically nothing up the other end. The welcome return of Miles Leaburn gave the team and the crowd a much needed lift and a lovely pass from Edun inside the full back gave CBT the chance to cut in and earn a stonewall penalty, which Alfie rammed home.
There is still much work to do but a win’s a win and I doubt that any of us cared much how it came about. I’m also struggling to recall the last time the team came from behind to win a game and that will surely do them a great deal of good.
In terms of individual performances, Edun was a little erratic at times but good offensively, while I thought that Jones and Asiimwe both had solid games. In midfield, Dobbo got stuck in and covered a great deal of ground as usual, Anderson was sound and Chem Campbell showed some quality and football intelligence throughout. A decent cameo also from Terry Taylor, who put on a few very good corners and may be the answer to an important element of the game where we’ve consistently struggled in recent seasons.
Up top, CBT was his usual menacing self and it’s great to see Tyreece Campbell and Miles Leaburn back on the pitch and running at defenders. On another day, Alfie May could have had 3 or 4 goals but his instinct takes him into goalscoring positions and I think he’ll score plenty for us, particularly when he’s got a partner like Leaburn alongside him. The only downside was another unnecessary booking, meaning he’s only one from a suspension we can ill afford.
It’s good to now have a fortnight to integrate the new players and to try and drum some important organisational and defensive principles into them. I expect a couple of the new lads may get some minutes at Crawley on Tuesday, which will hopefully help them towards match fitness.
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JP - Half time team talk:
"Ball to feet, on the ground"
A very encouraging 2nd half0 - Sponsored links:
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Only commenting on a post from last night hence "allegedly & was it a wind up"soapboxsam said:charltonbob said:
But allegedly been told by scott that he won't be offered a new contract. Can anybody itk confirm this ? (or was it a wind up?)sirjohnhumphrey said:Three words:
George Dobson. Peerless
So Charlton won't offer him George a new contract and will let him walk away and get sweet FA for him when his contract expires.
This is Charlton Athletic the selling team for the last 100 years but please 🤷🏻♂️
🤦🏻♂️Give me strength Bob.3 -
What a turn of phrase that is. I shall be looking for an opportunity to use it myself. I hope my first chance doesn't come when I'm at work.Off_it said:
Jeez, when did your father say that?mart77 said:Fleetwood will be in League 2 next year and although I’m pleased with any win, I found the wild celebrations of some fans at the end, bizarre. The first half was so poor and May’s goal saved the players an almighty blast from the stands.In the next two weeks the new manager MUST sort out the defence and pick a team style that the players are comfortable with. The defence looks as unstable as a man on a one legged stool and this has to change. What’s happened to Hector? He looks a shadow of last season.The current squad needs fresh voices guiding them I believe, so I hope whoever the new manager is, he brings in a few staff who will ‘fire a few fucks into them’ as my father would say!
I really like Asiimwe and Anderson but I’m hoping they’ll feature more from the bench going forward and this will aid their development.Chem Campbell looks a good prospect and I think if we steady the ship he’ll do well for us.
Leaburn and May will be quality together I believe and we may have our best strike partnership in a long time. 🙏
If we can get a new manager in who can steady the defence and sort out our shape and if we can keep Leaburn and May fit and if we can get Fraser and Camara back, whilst two or three of the new lads solidify us then a few wins in a row could change the outlook going forward.One thing for sure is that we’ll have to be a lot lot better than we were today to get mid table, let alone top 6 but you never know…
On second thoughts, perhaps it's best we don't know ....6 -
What a difference a win makes, and a well-deserved one at that. Chem Campbell, Corey B-T and Alfie May all excelled. It's great to have a proper goalscorer in the team. I think this squad is good enough for top six, and let's hope we get a manager that can get the best out of it. Now we have a couple of weeks to get the new guys and the unfit guys in better shape. Oh, and wasn't Miles good too, when he came on?
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What was Corey & Pearce's card for?0
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In my opinion Corey booking was a mistaken identity which should have gone to Anderson. My guess is Pearce mentioned that to the referee and got booked for it. This is all guess work.LTKapal said:What was Corey & Pearce's card for?9 -
So thats....LargeAddick said:
Yeah 3 is a bit OTT but they did have another couple of chances, a cross that flashed across that the striker should have got his head on and a very well worked corner that the guy should have at least got on target instead of blazing over but I suppose you either missed them or forgot them. Easy to do if you have subjective memory.king addick said:
3 up at half time?! Hit the bar and scored otherwise I can't remember a clear chancegolfaddick said:PWR.
Will add more later.
Fleetwood were like us.....didnt take their chances when they were ahead. They should have been 3 up at HT.....and Mays equaliser dragged us back into it. Only 1 winner from then on & we really should have been out of sight before TWELVE mins were added.
Leaburn made a difference & so does a natural goalscorer.
What a 🤡
The goal
Free kick that hit the bar
Narrowly missed diving header
Well worked corner blazed over
Hmmm......🤔
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Stig said:
What a turn of phrase that is. I shall be looking for an opportunity to use it myself. I hope my first chance doesn't come when I'm at work.Off_it said:
Jeez, when did your father say that?mart77 said:Fleetwood will be in League 2 next year and although I’m pleased with any win, I found the wild celebrations of some fans at the end, bizarre. The first half was so poor and May’s goal saved the players an almighty blast from the stands.In the next two weeks the new manager MUST sort out the defence and pick a team style that the players are comfortable with. The defence looks as unstable as a man on a one legged stool and this has to change. What’s happened to Hector? He looks a shadow of last season.The current squad needs fresh voices guiding them I believe, so I hope whoever the new manager is, he brings in a few staff who will ‘fire a few fucks into them’ as my father would say!
I really like Asiimwe and Anderson but I’m hoping they’ll feature more from the bench going forward and this will aid their development.Chem Campbell looks a good prospect and I think if we steady the ship he’ll do well for us.
Leaburn and May will be quality together I believe and we may have our best strike partnership in a long time. 🙏
If we can get a new manager in who can steady the defence and sort out our shape and if we can keep Leaburn and May fit and if we can get Fraser and Camara back, whilst two or three of the new lads solidify us then a few wins in a row could change the outlook going forward.One thing for sure is that we’ll have to be a lot lot better than we were today to get mid table, let alone top 6 but you never know…
On second thoughts, perhaps it's best we don't know ....
@mart77 I can relate to that saying. The equaliser was so important before HT. The place would have been very poisonous had we not scored.2 -
I was confused by that incident too, as I was sure it was Anderson who committed a pretty bad tackle, yet CBT got booked instead.SouthWest_Addicks said:
In my opinion Corey booking was a mistaken identity which should have gone to Anderson. My guess is Pearce mentioned that to the referee and got booked for it. This is all guess work.LTKapal said:What was Corey & Pearce's card for?0 -
If we're counting misses we could have scored 17 and they could have scored 11.
However if we're just counting shots on target we win 4-3.2 -
The less said about the first half the better…that was as bad as it gets
much better second half and deserved the win. Great to have Leaburn back and him and May will cause all sorts of problems
CBT was unplayable at times today, every time he got the ball he had 3 men around him
the back 4 as a collective were absolutely shocking, needs sorting out big time. Edun produced once of the worst displays I think I’ve ever seen for us (and he’s had some stiff competition) he certainly had a day to forget and maybe we just put that performance to bed and move on to the next one4 - Sponsored links:
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No, no, no ..... you don't quite understand how this works do you?Dazzler21 said:If we're counting misses we could have scored 17 and they could have scored 11.
However if we're just counting shots on target we win 4-3.
In the weird parallel universe of "Golfieworld" you only count the things that didn't go your way. The rest get completely ignored as irrelevant.6 -
Edun went missing in the first half - I have no idea what he was doing. Couldn't tackle and seemed to neglect to track back.Elthamaddick said:The less said about the first half the better…that was as bad as it gets
much better second half and deserved the win. Great to have Leaburn back and him and May will cause all sorts of problems
CBT was unplayable at times today, every time he got the ball he had 3 men around him
the back 4 as a collective were absolutely shocking, needs sorting out big time. Edun produced once of the worst displays I think I’ve ever seen for us (and he’s had some stiff competition) he certainly had a day to forget and maybe we just put that performance to bed and move on to the next one1 -
I don’t care how I love winning changes my whole mood for the weekend.Poor first half much better second half. Just hope we can build on it and with more players to bring in.C Campbell looked even better this. Last week and could be key to us unlocking defences but special mention to Dobbo who was brilliant. He really seems to be adding more to his game than just making tackles and breaking up play.One thing I noticed today that we seemed quicker in midfield and more energy.Not getting carried away but something to build on.5
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Funny old game really. Coming hot on the heels of a mystery tour around Thamesmead with the A206 being closed, the first half had the feel of a pre-season friendly with two unprepared teams strolling around in the sunshine, putting on a show that at no point matched its billing as a professional football match. The couple of dozen Fleetwood fans, surely the lowest Jimmy Seed attendance for a while, told the story of how poor a team they are, whilst the first set of boos on 15 minutes told how bad we were. For forty minutes, which can best be described by the word lethargic, Charlton were second best and deserved nothing from the game. May's goal out of the blue surely spared our players an uncomfortable trudge off the pitch at half time. Presumably though there were some finely chosen words from JP at half time because we came roaring out of the traps. The second half was far better and as Fleetwood tired, there only looked to be one winner in it. A far more accomplished performance from everyone saw us to be the much better side. A second May goal and the return or Leaburn really lifting the Spirits. Well done Charlton for a decent second half. The quicker we forget that first half the better.4
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The first half was poor, but I actually enjoyed the second half. It was a crucial win and when we were 1 down, I thinking we’re really in the shit given how young the team are, and the fact that our 4 signings this week are also very young.I think it’s going to be a big ask for whoever gets the job, but there are some green shoots. Chem Campbell has good feet and looks like he could be one to watch, May is proper forward and was unlucky not to get a hat trick and CBT is a menace for a lot of defenders. If we can just get other outlets and someone can come in and continue to coach him, he could be an effective player this season.Hopefully the new players will just add to what we’ve got, because there are some skillful players in there. We just need organisation, more wise heads on the pitch in addition to Dobson, and to get that defence sorted, and there could be the foundation of a stronger team than last season. Against a better opposition we could’ve been 2 or 3 down today, so we got fortunate, but expect a tight league this year. Stevenage and Port Vale are in the top 6 as it stands, I don’t think Derby, Bolton, Wigan, Blackpool, Oxford or whoever else fancies their chances are going to do what Sheff Weds, Ipswich & Plymouth did last season
We’ve got 2 weeks. I pray we get a better manager than Holden or Garner this time. No disrespect to either, but our club and our situation is beyond their ability and I think we gave them more credit than they deserve. I mean, remember that bollocks about Holden to Huddersfield.
I don’t trust Methven, or what he’s said to the backers, but I’m oddly hopeful the season may be okay. Weird feeling9 -
BTW that's 23 bookings already in 6 games.
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And in the second half gave the ball away twice in quick succession, when under no pressure.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Edun went missing in the first half - I have no idea what he was doing. Couldn't tackle and seemed to neglect to track back.Elthamaddick said:The less said about the first half the better…that was as bad as it gets
much better second half and deserved the win. Great to have Leaburn back and him and May will cause all sorts of problems
CBT was unplayable at times today, every time he got the ball he had 3 men around him
the back 4 as a collective were absolutely shocking, needs sorting out big time. Edun produced once of the worst displays I think I’ve ever seen for us (and he’s had some stiff competition) he certainly had a day to forget and maybe we just put that performance to bed and move on to the next one
There was defensively something seriously wrong for the goal, when Stockley was left being marked by Anderson, a midfielder, with the 2 centre backs standing there marking nobody.0 -
We really need someone to sort this defence out. Fortunately we have Abankwah the Irish Maldini (MacDini?) who is apparently going to solve that little dilemma. Edun was poor today but has looked pretty good otherwise so hopefully just a bad day at the office.
Big things needed from our new boys, T. Watson and Tedic in particular so we can give Asiimwe a break and ease Leaburn back in gently.
Get the manager decision right and we'll be okay going forwards. Get it wrong and our troubles are not over yet...0 -
Maybe. As always it depends on your position. From where I was it looked like the defender stuck his leg out then pushed Chem over the outstretched limb. For me (and those around me) it looked like CBT threw himself to the floor. Ref saw both differently 🤷♂️. What WAS infuriating was that he waved their bloke on in the first half (wrist?) after about 5 seconds, but after the non pen, Chem was off for around a minute. I thought it was supposed to be 30 seconds minimum? I accept at this level the officials might be a bit ropey but for the basics I’d like consistency.Cafc43v3r said:
I didn't think it was a penalty. So times you get them, some times you give them away.Off_it said:
This was the "clear penalty" not given on Campbell. Their player definitely played the ball and the only question is whether he went through Campbell first. Doesn't look like it from this shot.
Its so easy to blame the refs, good teams win amd take the odd 50/50 ref decision out of the equation.
You could easily argue refs have cost us as much as 6 points this season. We have cost ourselves more.
The other annoying thing was when the ref made us retake a fk for a rolling ball when the only reason it was moving was because their defender had tapped it to stop us taking it quickly 🙄. Not material in impacting the result but all contributes to the bad rep the refs get when they can’t even spot those kind of tricks8
