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Chuks (p.61 - Released)

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  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,891
    Off_it said:
    He's a senior pro. We were 4-0 up. The spat before the incident, which the ref clearly saw was unnecessary. He should've just walked away.
    Poor from Chuks
    You could easily say similar about Lloyd Jones getting booked early and being on a tightrope all game. 

    The referee got it wrong. That is it. 
    Jones was putting down a marker and letting Kone know he was there. Kone wasn’t in the game after that.
    Maybe so. But it meant with the referee he could have been sent off that’s my point. 
    No idea of the point you're trying to make here, unless you're suggesting that players shouldn't try and put in tackles for fear of getting sent off?

    As opposed to getting involved in physical shenanigans off the ball.

    Baffled. 
    I’m simply saying ‘blaming’ Chuks isn’t really the right conclusion in my opinion. 

    If Jones had been sent off say for a second offence in the match and the result less favourable we’d be blaming him for a silly early booking. 

    My point is the guilt is with the referee for getting it wrong. 
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,535
    Off_it said:
    He's a senior pro. We were 4-0 up. The spat before the incident, which the ref clearly saw was unnecessary. He should've just walked away.
    Poor from Chuks
    You could easily say similar about Lloyd Jones getting booked early and being on a tightrope all game. 

    The referee got it wrong. That is it. 
    Jones was putting down a marker and letting Kone know he was there. Kone wasn’t in the game after that.
    Maybe so. But it meant with the referee he could have been sent off that’s my point. 
    No idea of the point you're trying to make here, unless you're suggesting that players shouldn't try and put in tackles for fear of getting sent off?

    As opposed to getting involved in physical shenanigans off the ball.

    Baffled. 
    I’m simply saying ‘blaming’ Chuks isn’t really the right conclusion in my opinion. 

    If Jones had been sent off say for a second offence in the match and the result less favourable we’d be blaming him for a silly early booking. 

    My point is the guilt is with the referee for getting it wrong. 
    Hugely different situations though - LJ going into a crunching tackle in first few minutes at 0-0 versus Chuks getting involved in a lengthy off the ball altercation at 4-0 with a few minutes left. 
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,891
    Off_it said:
    He's a senior pro. We were 4-0 up. The spat before the incident, which the ref clearly saw was unnecessary. He should've just walked away.
    Poor from Chuks
    You could easily say similar about Lloyd Jones getting booked early and being on a tightrope all game. 

    The referee got it wrong. That is it. 
    Jones was putting down a marker and letting Kone know he was there. Kone wasn’t in the game after that.
    Maybe so. But it meant with the referee he could have been sent off that’s my point. 
    No idea of the point you're trying to make here, unless you're suggesting that players shouldn't try and put in tackles for fear of getting sent off?

    As opposed to getting involved in physical shenanigans off the ball.

    Baffled. 
    I’m simply saying ‘blaming’ Chuks isn’t really the right conclusion in my opinion. 

    If Jones had been sent off say for a second offence in the match and the result less favourable we’d be blaming him for a silly early booking. 

    My point is the guilt is with the referee for getting it wrong. 
    Hugely different situations though - LJ going into a crunching tackle in first few minutes at 0-0 versus Chuks getting involved in a lengthy off the ball altercation at 4-0 with a few minutes left. 
    So the risk of being sent off early in a must win game is less of an issue?

    My point is to blame Chuks for the referee is not the fairest conclusion

    The conclusion should only be we as a team are the victims of a poor refereeing decision. 

    Our manager after all expressed surprise the decision was not overturned. 
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,550
    Seems that we're not the only club feeling a bit miffed.

    https://www.stockportcounty.com/club-statement-jack-diamond/
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,882
    At some point people are just going to have to let this go. Thankfully we have another game tomorrow. 
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,170
    Off_it said:
    At some point people are just going to have to let this go. Thankfully we have another game tomorrow. 
    Yeah but it’s all the refs fault , we’re like scousers 
    I mean everyone completely ignores the nibbles we’ve done That could have been penalties to the oppo and as if other teams don’t get crap decisions against them , poor us .
    How anyone can claim to clearly see what happened with Chuks when to me in all the video footage it was inconclusive so they go with the on field decision .

  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,736
    I think there is some misunderstanding. When you have a player who is much stronger than you, you either let him do what he wants or get overly physical with him. It usually isn't the strong player who instigates it but they have to respond to it. Then you get the poor refs who can't see it for what it is.  I see quite a few 50/50s that go the way of the weaker player because they are weaker. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,053
    Did we appeal? 
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,665
    se9addick said:
    Did we appeal? 
    Apparently we did to no avail.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,053
    se9addick said:
    Did we appeal? 
    Apparently we did to no avail.
    Fair enough, is what it is now then. 3 game suspension? 

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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,129
    se9addick said:
    se9addick said:
    Did we appeal? 
    Apparently we did to no avail.
    Fair enough, is what it is now then. 3 game suspension? 
    Back in time for our first Championship home game then after we go up in second. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,016
    Off_it said:
    At some point people are just going to have to let this go. Thankfully we have another game tomorrow. 
    Yeah but it’s all the refs fault , we’re like scousers 
    I mean everyone completely ignores the nibbles we’ve done That could have been penalties to the oppo and as if other teams don’t get crap decisions against them , poor us .
    How anyone can claim to clearly see what happened with Chuks when to me in all the video footage it was inconclusive so they go with the on field decision .

    This.
    I thought it was just me that thought that.
    How can you overturn a decision when you can’t clearly see what happened?
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,891
    Off_it said:
    At some point people are just going to have to let this go. Thankfully we have another game tomorrow. 
    Yeah but it’s all the refs fault , we’re like scousers 
    I mean everyone completely ignores the nibbles we’ve done That could have been penalties to the oppo and as if other teams don’t get crap decisions against them , poor us .
    How anyone can claim to clearly see what happened with Chuks when to me in all the video footage it was inconclusive so they go with the on field decision .

    This.
    I thought it was just me that thought that.
    How can you overturn a decision when you can’t clearly see what happened?
    Well NJ told us (I think) they did have clear evidence that he did not elbow a player and that was the reason for the sending off. 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,406
    edited April 27
    Finishing the game with an 18 and 20 year old up front. Just the wrong time of season for it.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,736
    Off_it said:
    He's a senior pro. We were 4-0 up. The spat before the incident, which the ref clearly saw was unnecessary. He should've just walked away.
    Poor from Chuks
    You could easily say similar about Lloyd Jones getting booked early and being on a tightrope all game. 

    The referee got it wrong. That is it. 
    Jones was putting down a marker and letting Kone know he was there. Kone wasn’t in the game after that.
    Maybe so. But it meant with the referee he could have been sent off that’s my point. 
    No idea of the point you're trying to make here, unless you're suggesting that players shouldn't try and put in tackles for fear of getting sent off?

    As opposed to getting involved in physical shenanigans off the ball.

    Baffled. 
    I’m simply saying ‘blaming’ Chuks isn’t really the right conclusion in my opinion. 

    If Jones had been sent off say for a second offence in the match and the result less favourable we’d be blaming him for a silly early booking. 

    My point is the guilt is with the referee for getting it wrong. 
    Hugely different situations though - LJ going into a crunching tackle in first few minutes at 0-0 versus Chuks getting involved in a lengthy off the ball altercation at 4-0 with a few minutes left. 
    So the risk of being sent off early in a must win game is less of an issue?

    My point is to blame Chuks for the referee is not the fairest conclusion

    The conclusion should only be we as a team are the victims of a poor refereeing decision. 

    Our manager after all expressed surprise the decision was not overturned. 
    Hardly likely to say anything else is he
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,294
    Game was already lost by the time he’d have come on, but yesterday was exactly why we need Aneke. Wrexham pressed us so well so we had to go long but we had no one to hold the ball up 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,190
    NabySarr said:
    Game was already lost by the time he’d have come on, but yesterday was exactly why we need Aneke. Wrexham pressed us so well so we had to go long but we had no one to hold the ball up 
    Yeah Mbick couldn’t fill his role. I can see that he might be able to to in future but not yet. Also compare the mental difference for those CB’s in seeing an unproven 18yr old come on instead of Aneke. That said, there was one lovely bit of movement from Mbick to get in the box which is beyond Aneke now, if he’d gone half a second earlier he might have scored which would have been some moment 
  • Off_it said:
    At some point people are just going to have to let this go. Thankfully we have another game tomorrow. 
    Yeah but it’s all the refs fault , we’re like scousers 
    I mean everyone completely ignores the nibbles we’ve done That could have been penalties to the oppo and as if other teams don’t get crap decisions against them , poor us .
    How anyone can claim to clearly see what happened with Chuks when to me in all the video footage it was inconclusive so they go with the on field decision .

    This.
    I thought it was just me that thought that.
    How can you overturn a decision when you can’t clearly see what happened?
    As the ref wasn't looking when diver Leahy went down you could also say.........

    How can you give a decision when you clearly couldn't see what happened.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,016
    Off_it said:
    At some point people are just going to have to let this go. Thankfully we have another game tomorrow. 
    Yeah but it’s all the refs fault , we’re like scousers 
    I mean everyone completely ignores the nibbles we’ve done That could have been penalties to the oppo and as if other teams don’t get crap decisions against them , poor us .
    How anyone can claim to clearly see what happened with Chuks when to me in all the video footage it was inconclusive so they go with the on field decision .

    This.
    I thought it was just me that thought that.
    How can you overturn a decision when you can’t clearly see what happened?
    As the ref wasn't looking when diver Leahy went down you could also say.........

    How can you give a decision when you clearly couldn't see what happened.
    He must have been told by the 4th official or lino.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,891
    Croydon said:
    Off_it said:
    He's a senior pro. We were 4-0 up. The spat before the incident, which the ref clearly saw was unnecessary. He should've just walked away.
    Poor from Chuks
    You could easily say similar about Lloyd Jones getting booked early and being on a tightrope all game. 

    The referee got it wrong. That is it. 
    Jones was putting down a marker and letting Kone know he was there. Kone wasn’t in the game after that.
    Maybe so. But it meant with the referee he could have been sent off that’s my point. 
    No idea of the point you're trying to make here, unless you're suggesting that players shouldn't try and put in tackles for fear of getting sent off?

    As opposed to getting involved in physical shenanigans off the ball.

    Baffled. 
    I’m simply saying ‘blaming’ Chuks isn’t really the right conclusion in my opinion. 

    If Jones had been sent off say for a second offence in the match and the result less favourable we’d be blaming him for a silly early booking. 

    My point is the guilt is with the referee for getting it wrong. 
    Hugely different situations though - LJ going into a crunching tackle in first few minutes at 0-0 versus Chuks getting involved in a lengthy off the ball altercation at 4-0 with a few minutes left. 
    So the risk of being sent off early in a must win game is less of an issue?

    My point is to blame Chuks for the referee is not the fairest conclusion

    The conclusion should only be we as a team are the victims of a poor refereeing decision. 

    Our manager after all expressed surprise the decision was not overturned. 
    Hardly likely to say anything else is he
    So you are not from the school of ‘in NJ we trust’ then 😆

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  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,483
    Croydon said:
    Off_it said:
    He's a senior pro. We were 4-0 up. The spat before the incident, which the ref clearly saw was unnecessary. He should've just walked away.
    Poor from Chuks
    You could easily say similar about Lloyd Jones getting booked early and being on a tightrope all game. 

    The referee got it wrong. That is it. 
    Jones was putting down a marker and letting Kone know he was there. Kone wasn’t in the game after that.
    Maybe so. But it meant with the referee he could have been sent off that’s my point. 
    No idea of the point you're trying to make here, unless you're suggesting that players shouldn't try and put in tackles for fear of getting sent off?

    As opposed to getting involved in physical shenanigans off the ball.

    Baffled. 
    I’m simply saying ‘blaming’ Chuks isn’t really the right conclusion in my opinion. 

    If Jones had been sent off say for a second offence in the match and the result less favourable we’d be blaming him for a silly early booking. 

    My point is the guilt is with the referee for getting it wrong. 
    Hugely different situations though - LJ going into a crunching tackle in first few minutes at 0-0 versus Chuks getting involved in a lengthy off the ball altercation at 4-0 with a few minutes left. 
    So the risk of being sent off early in a must win game is less of an issue?

    My point is to blame Chuks for the referee is not the fairest conclusion

    The conclusion should only be we as a team are the victims of a poor refereeing decision. 

    Our manager after all expressed surprise the decision was not overturned. 
    Hardly likely to say anything else is he
    I would say that the vast majority of Addicks would say exactly the same and rightly so.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,736
    He will be available agin for the second leg in the play off semi final.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,736
    Croydon said:
    Off_it said:
    He's a senior pro. We were 4-0 up. The spat before the incident, which the ref clearly saw was unnecessary. He should've just walked away.
    Poor from Chuks
    You could easily say similar about Lloyd Jones getting booked early and being on a tightrope all game. 

    The referee got it wrong. That is it. 
    Jones was putting down a marker and letting Kone know he was there. Kone wasn’t in the game after that.
    Maybe so. But it meant with the referee he could have been sent off that’s my point. 
    No idea of the point you're trying to make here, unless you're suggesting that players shouldn't try and put in tackles for fear of getting sent off?

    As opposed to getting involved in physical shenanigans off the ball.

    Baffled. 
    I’m simply saying ‘blaming’ Chuks isn’t really the right conclusion in my opinion. 

    If Jones had been sent off say for a second offence in the match and the result less favourable we’d be blaming him for a silly early booking. 

    My point is the guilt is with the referee for getting it wrong. 
    Hugely different situations though - LJ going into a crunching tackle in first few minutes at 0-0 versus Chuks getting involved in a lengthy off the ball altercation at 4-0 with a few minutes left. 
    So the risk of being sent off early in a must win game is less of an issue?

    My point is to blame Chuks for the referee is not the fairest conclusion

    The conclusion should only be we as a team are the victims of a poor refereeing decision. 

    Our manager after all expressed surprise the decision was not overturned. 
    Hardly likely to say anything else is he
    I would say that the vast majority of Addicks would say exactly the same and rightly so.
    You're surprised it wasn't overturned? 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,294
    He will be available agin for the second leg in the play off semi final.
    That’s a brave prediction, this is Aneke we are talking about 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,190
    NabySarr said:
    He will be available agin for the second leg in the play off semi final.
    That’s a brave prediction, this is Aneke we are talking about 
    I know you’re being tongue in cheek but his availability has been greatly increased this season. Obviously still not up to the levels of everyone else in the squad but it’s impressive from the medical team, NJ and Chuks himself 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,882
    fenaddick said:
    NabySarr said:
    He will be available agin for the second leg in the play off semi final.
    That’s a brave prediction, this is Aneke we are talking about 
    I know you’re being tongue in cheek but his availability has been greatly increased this season. Obviously still not up to the levels of everyone else in the squad but it’s impressive from the medical team, NJ and Chuks himself 
    "his availability has been greatly increased this season". 

    Nobody is gonna be able to limbo under a bar set that low!
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,190
    Off_it said:
    fenaddick said:
    NabySarr said:
    He will be available agin for the second leg in the play off semi final.
    That’s a brave prediction, this is Aneke we are talking about 
    I know you’re being tongue in cheek but his availability has been greatly increased this season. Obviously still not up to the levels of everyone else in the squad but it’s impressive from the medical team, NJ and Chuks himself 
    "his availability has been greatly increased this season". 

    Nobody is gonna be able to limbo under a bar set that low!
    Don’t get me wrong, it’s still not up to the required level but I don’t go into every match thinking he’ll get injured anymore and I think it’s worth acknowledging that 
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,627
    Just saw an update from Chuks, he has got his level two in scouting (talent identification)

    Despite what has being going on recently, glad to see he is looking to stay in the game!
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,386
    Just saw an update from Chuks, he has got his level two in scouting (talent identification)

    Despite what has being going on recently, glad to see he is looking to stay in the game!
    Where was this?
  • Plaaayer
    Plaaayer Posts: 9,001
    edited April 28
    Dartford scout hall mate, was given it by the Akela