It will only take one really cold winter and power outages become a reality, for people to turn on whoever is running the country, if everybody truly believed in climate emergency we would all vote for the Greens.
Surely you mean 'prioritised' rather than 'believed?'
I think you're right that, whether power outages are likely or not, many fear them more than they do the climate emergency. Energy security is where the argument for continued use of fossil fuels has shifted now, away from denial of its harmful side effects to the more urgent need to satisfy demand until renewables can cope with it.
The transition should have started earlier and then there wouldn't be those concerns.
It will only take one really cold winter and power outages become a reality, for people to turn on whoever is running the country, if everybody truly believed in climate emergency we would all vote for the Greens.
Surely you mean 'prioritised' rather than 'believed?'
I think you're right that, whether power outages are likely or not, many fear them more than they do the climate emergency. Energy security is where the argument for continued use of fossil fuels has shifted now, away from denial of its harmful side effects to the more urgent need to satisfy demand until renewables can cope with it.
The transition should have started earlier and then there wouldn't be those concerns.
Concern about the continued supply of power should be an argument for renewables investments, not an argument for the longer reliance on fossil fuels.
It will only take one really cold winter and power outages become a reality, for people to turn on whoever is running the country, if everybody truly believed in climate emergency we would all vote for the Greens.
Surely you mean 'prioritised' rather than 'believed?'
I think you're right that, whether power outages are likely or not, many fear them more than they do the climate emergency. Energy security is where the argument for continued use of fossil fuels has shifted now, away from denial of its harmful side effects to the more urgent need to satisfy demand until renewables can cope with it.
The transition should have started earlier and then there wouldn't be those concerns.
Concern about the continued supply of power should be an argument for renewables investments, not an argument for the longer reliance on fossil fuels.
Agreed. I'm just pointing out the change of emphasis of spin from the fossil fuel lobby now, not that they're right or that I agree with it.
It will only take one really cold winter and power outages become a reality, for people to turn on whoever is running the country, if everybody truly believed in climate emergency we would all vote for the Greens.
Surely you mean 'prioritised' rather than 'believed?'
I think you're right that, whether power outages are likely or not, many fear them more than they do the climate emergency. Energy security is where the argument for continued use of fossil fuels has shifted now, away from denial of its harmful side effects to the more urgent need to satisfy demand until renewables can cope with it.
The transition should have started earlier and then there wouldn't be those concerns.
Concern about the continued supply of power should be an argument for renewables investments, not an argument for the longer reliance on fossil fuels.
Agreed. I'm just pointing out the change of emphasis of spin from the fossil fuel lobby now, not that they're right or that I agree with it.
I think anyone making the argument that we need to rely even more heavily on fossil fuels "to prevent the lights going out" would not be acting in good faith. Relying solely on twentieth century sources of electricity would, by definition, put the lights out. Permanently.
There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
Love Rupert Lowe. One of the hardest working MP’s and donates his salary to a local charity each month. I expect him to be on the front bench when Reform get in.
There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
Love Rupert Lowe. One of the hardest working MP’s and donates his salary to a local charity each month. I expect him to be on the front bench when Reform get in.
There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
I find comments like this disingenuous. Rupert Lowe probably has a bit of money and can afford the initial investment to put solar panels on his roof. The average person cannot.
There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
I find comments like this disingenuous. Rupert Lowe probably has a bit of money and can afford the initial investment to put solar panels on his roof. The average person cannot.
Pointing this out does not make him a hypocrite?
When a political party talks about renewals they're not taking about people installing solar panels at their own costs.
There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
Love Rupert Lowe. One of the hardest working MP’s and donates his salary to a local charity each month. I expect him to be on the front bench when Reform get in.
Hardest working says who ? If he donates his salary to charity then fair play but that doesn’t stop him from being a twunt which he demonstrates on a daily basis.
There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
I find comments like this disingenuous. Rupert Lowe probably has a bit of money and can afford the initial investment to put solar panels on his roof. The average person cannot.
There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
Love Rupert Lowe. One of the hardest working MP’s and donates his salary to a local charity each month. I expect him to be on the front bench when Reform get in.
There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
I find comments like this disingenuous. Rupert Lowe probably has a bit of money and can afford the initial investment to put solar panels on his roof. The average person cannot.
Pointing this out does not make him a hypocrite?
When a political party talks about renewals they're not taking about people installing solar panels at their own costs.
Right, which makes shooters criticism even less relevant.
There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
Love Rupert Lowe. One of the hardest working MP’s and donates his salary to a local charity each month. I expect him to be on the front bench when Reform get in.
Top Knob if Elon has his way
Works for me 😀
Seems pretty unlikely given that Farage actually owns Reform, lock stock and barrel and only has his eyes set on the keys to number ten and couldn’t give a flying fuck about playing second fiddle.
There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
Love Rupert Lowe. One of the hardest working MP’s and donates his salary to a local charity each month. I expect him to be on the front bench when Reform get in.
Top Knob if Elon has his way
Works for me 😀
Seems pretty unlikely given that Farage actually owns Reform, lock stock and barrel and only has his eyes set on the keys to number ten and couldn’t give a flying fuck about playing second fiddle.
Still works for me. Doesn’t have the baggage that nige has and his lack of previous political experience doesn’t seem to be an issue. Ultimately it will be trumps decision anyway. Also, I don’t believe farage owns Reform.
More extreme weather in USA, floods in Kentucky have killed 10 people and extremely low temperatures in other regions. The cost of dealing with all these weather related events is enormous.
There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
Love Rupert Lowe. One of the hardest working MP’s and donates his salary to a local charity each month. I expect him to be on the front bench when Reform get in.
Top Knob if Elon has his way
Works for me 😀
Seems pretty unlikely given that Farage actually owns Reform, lock stock and barrel and only has his eyes set on the keys to number ten and couldn’t give a flying fuck about playing second fiddle.
Still works for me. Doesn’t have the baggage that nige has and his lack of previous political experience doesn’t seem to be an issue. Ultimately it will be trumps decision anyway. Also, I don’t believe farage owns Reform.
Me too. Wish these useless twats would call an election.. they havent got the balls to do it though.
There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
Love Rupert Lowe. One of the hardest working MP’s and donates his salary to a local charity each month. I expect him to be on the front bench when Reform get in.
Top Knob if Elon has his way
Works for me 😀
Seems pretty unlikely given that Farage actually owns Reform, lock stock and barrel and only has his eyes set on the keys to number ten and couldn’t give a flying fuck about playing second fiddle.
Still works for me. Doesn’t have the baggage that nige has and his lack of previous political experience doesn’t seem to be an issue. Ultimately it will be trumps decision anyway. Also, I don’t believe farage owns Reform.
Reform UK, originally established as the Brexit Party in 2018, was initially structured as a private limited company known as Reform UK Party Limited. This corporate setup granted significant control to its primary shareholders, with Nigel Farage owning a majority stake. In August 2024, Farage increased his ownership to 60% by acquiring shares from the departing chief executive, Paul Oakden. (thetimes.co.uk)
In September 2024, Farage announced plans to transition Reform UK from a private company to a company limited by guarantee, effectively transferring ownership to its members. This move aimed to democratize the party's structure, allowing members to have a direct say in its governance and policies. (ft.com)
By October 2024, during its inaugural party conference in Birmingham, Reform UK had begun implementing this new structure. The party reported a membership exceeding 80,000 and outlined plans to establish local constituency branches, further embedding its grassroots presence. (thetimes.co.uk)
There is no publicly available information as to who owns the remaining 40% or so of the shares. I wouldn't be surprised to find that some or all of the shareholders can be traced back to the fossil fuel industry.
Rupert Lowe, Reform MP for Great Yarmouth since 2024, i.e. a party that plans to scrap the country's net zero target, is a hypocrite by most definitions of the word. He has more interest in net zero than just solar panels apparently, according to the Hope Not Hate website today;
"Lowe, in fact, is a major investor in green technology. He has at least a 15% stake in Kona Energy, a battery energy storage company working “to deliver a zero carbon future”. He also owns Alto Energy, a heat pump company. His colleague Richard Tice said these eco-friendly alternatives to gas boilers are “as attractive as a bucket of cold sick”, urging his followers on X: “Ignore the heat pump sellers!” Perhaps Tice could follow his own advice…"
I can't think why, but I had a sudden urge to see the effect of climate change on rat population numbers. Rattus norvegicus and Rattus rattus seem to be thriving, rats being one of the very few wildlife species with increasing numbers.
There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
Love Rupert Lowe. One of the hardest working MP’s and donates his salary to a local charity each month. I expect him to be on the front bench when Reform get in.
Top Knob if Elon has his way
Works for me 😀
Seems pretty unlikely given that Farage actually owns Reform, lock stock and barrel and only has his eyes set on the keys to number ten and couldn’t give a flying fuck about playing second fiddle.
Still works for me. Doesn’t have the baggage that nige has and his lack of previous political experience doesn’t seem to be an issue. Ultimately it will be trumps decision anyway. Also, I don’t believe farage owns Reform.
Reform UK, originally established as the Brexit Party in 2018, was initially structured as a private limited company known as Reform UK Party Limited. This corporate setup granted significant control to its primary shareholders, with Nigel Farage owning a majority stake. In August 2024, Farage increased his ownership to 60% by acquiring shares from the departing chief executive, Paul Oakden. (thetimes.co.uk)
In September 2024, Farage announced plans to transition Reform UK from a private company to a company limited by guarantee, effectively transferring ownership to its members. This move aimed to democratize the party's structure, allowing members to have a direct say in its governance and policies. (ft.com)
By October 2024, during its inaugural party conference in Birmingham, Reform UK had begun implementing this new structure. The party reported a membership exceeding 80,000 and outlined plans to establish local constituency branches, further embedding its grassroots presence. (thetimes.co.uk)
There is no publicly available information as to who owns the remaining 40% or so of the shares. I wouldn't be surprised to find that some or all of the shareholders can be traced back to the fossil fuel industry.
It also receives 92% of its funding from fossil fuel industry stakeholders.
There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
Love Rupert Lowe. One of the hardest working MP’s and donates his salary to a local charity each month. I expect him to be on the front bench when Reform get in.
Top Knob if Elon has his way
Works for me 😀
Seems pretty unlikely given that Farage actually owns Reform, lock stock and barrel and only has his eyes set on the keys to number ten and couldn’t give a flying fuck about playing second fiddle.
Still works for me. Doesn’t have the baggage that nige has and his lack of previous political experience doesn’t seem to be an issue. Ultimately it will be trumps decision anyway. Also, I don’t believe farage owns Reform.
Me too. Wish these useless twats would call an election.. they havent got the balls to do it though.
Why would they, they have a huge majority.
Back to Climate Change, we are all affected by it, so should all be working together.
Rob Lowe is MP for Great Yarmouth, which is where the gas pipelines from the Southern North Sea comes ashore, also the gas industry employs a lot of workers in the area servicing the rigs etc. So in someways he is looking after his constituents interests. Anyway Reform has a larger appeal (what were are not allowed to talk about) There is no way Reform will ever run the country with the existing voting system.
It will only take one really cold winter and power outages become a reality, for people to turn on whoever is running the country, if everybody truly believed in climate emergency we would all vote for the Greens.
Without wishing to get political. I think the name “Greens” is not truly reflective of just what a shambles of policies they have. The overarching “Green” credentials is for me lost in the other crap they want.
Well the political comment didn’t last long. Like others on here, you just can’t help yourselves.
It will only take one really cold winter and power outages become a reality, for people to turn on whoever is running the country, if everybody truly believed in climate emergency we would all vote for the Greens.
Without wishing to get political. I think the name “Greens” is not truly reflective of just what a shambles of policies they have. The overarching “Green” credentials is for me lost in the other crap they want.
Well the political comment didn’t last long. Like others on here, you just can’t help yourselves.
What's your view on the Climate Emergency? Should we stick to our Net Zero targets? Is harvesting energy from onshore wind farms a reliable, sustainable method of delivering cheap power? Should we continue to issue North Sea drilling licences? How soon should petrol stations be converted into EV charging points?
There is no legitimate argument for not progressively moving away from fossil fuels. None. If there is an argument at all it’s about the speed needed to make the transition as painless and realistic as possible. Green energy is a massive opportunity for businesses and for jobs. It’s going to happen regardless so having targets and government resources put into green initiatives makes sense on every level. People like Tice are in the pay of the fossil fuel lobby. The amount of “old” money and investment tied up in fossil fuels scares the life out of the uber wealthy and until they can move their investments away from that into greener money spinners we’ll see the man made climate change denials continue by those in the pay of the fossil fuel industry. We saw exactly the same tactics used by the tobacco industry which was sickening. That’s until they could switch their customers to the third world. I read earlier that Rupert Lowe that shite of a Reform MP has had solar panels fitted to his farmhouse despite his party and him spouting that green is more expensive. Everything you need to know right there.
Love Rupert Lowe. One of the hardest working MP’s and donates his salary to a local charity each month. I expect him to be on the front bench when Reform get in.
Top Knob if Elon has his way
Works for me 😀
Seems pretty unlikely given that Farage actually owns Reform, lock stock and barrel and only has his eyes set on the keys to number ten and couldn’t give a flying fuck about playing second fiddle.
Still works for me. Doesn’t have the baggage that nige has and his lack of previous political experience doesn’t seem to be an issue. Ultimately it will be trumps decision anyway. Also, I don’t believe farage owns Reform.
Well you could look at Companies House where Nigel Paul Farage is designated as the person with significant control. It’s a limited company. Its accounts are due in August. That’ll make interesting reading.
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I think you're right that, whether power outages are likely or not, many fear them more than they do the climate emergency. Energy security is where the argument for continued use of fossil fuels has shifted now, away from denial of its harmful side effects to the more urgent need to satisfy demand until renewables can cope with it.
The transition should have started earlier and then there wouldn't be those concerns.
Pointing this out does not make him a hypocrite?
https://news.sky.com/story/us-weather-nine-dead-as-severe-rain-flooding-and-lows-of-35c-hit-multiple-states-13311121
Reform UK, originally established as the Brexit Party in 2018, was initially structured as a private limited company known as Reform UK Party Limited. This corporate setup granted significant control to its primary shareholders, with Nigel Farage owning a majority stake. In August 2024, Farage increased his ownership to 60% by acquiring shares from the departing chief executive, Paul Oakden. (thetimes.co.uk)
In September 2024, Farage announced plans to transition Reform UK from a private company to a company limited by guarantee, effectively transferring ownership to its members. This move aimed to democratize the party's structure, allowing members to have a direct say in its governance and policies. (ft.com)
By October 2024, during its inaugural party conference in Birmingham, Reform UK had begun implementing this new structure. The party reported a membership exceeding 80,000 and outlined plans to establish local constituency branches, further embedding its grassroots presence. (thetimes.co.uk)
There is no publicly available information as to who owns the remaining 40% or so of the shares. I wouldn't be surprised to find that some or all of the shareholders can be traced back to the fossil fuel industry.
"Lowe, in fact, is a major investor in green technology. He has at least a 15% stake in Kona Energy, a battery energy storage company working “to deliver a zero carbon future”. He also owns Alto Energy, a heat pump company. His colleague Richard Tice said these eco-friendly alternatives to gas boilers are “as attractive as a bucket of cold sick”, urging his followers on X: “Ignore the heat pump sellers!” Perhaps Tice could follow his own advice…"
https://hopenothate.org.uk/2025/02/17/hypocrisy-revealed-rupert-lowe-champion-of-natural-food-is-investor-in-lab-grown-bacteria-protein/
Also Greenpeace have picked apart Reform's approach to Net zero, which some may find interesting;
https://www.greenpeace.org.uk/resources/reform-manifesto-analysis/ - "a list of bogus arguments lifted straight from the climate denial playbook".
I hope we are not to be further sidetracked by them and their supporters on here. They are just a distraction.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.ads6782#:~:text=While untested, the assertion that,their impact on rat numbers.
Back to Climate Change, we are all affected by it, so should all be working together.
Like others on here, you just can’t help yourselves.