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Fans Forum- Sept 14th 2023
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Direct link to the full transcript
https://cdn.charltonafc.com/sites/default/files/2023-09/Fans%27%20Forum%20September%202023_final.pdf
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Some interesting stuff sure enough. If only it didn't hurt my eyes to read as that must surely be the most unfriendly reader style possible.
And who is SB?2 -
Sidney BoitierFortune 82nd Minute said:Some interesting stuff sure enough. If only it didn't hurt my eyes to read as that must surely be the most unfriendly reader style possible.
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No mention of Burger Boy.3
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I'm not convinced in the Methven back seat stuff but other than that some good discussion there..
Will it be followed up with action?1 -
No idea who SB is.Fortune 82nd Minute said:Some interesting stuff sure enough. If only it didn't hurt my eyes to read as that must surely be the most unfriendly reader style possible.
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Shit bag?LargeAddick said:
No idea who SB is.Fortune 82nd Minute said:Some interesting stuff sure enough. If only it didn't hurt my eyes to read as that must surely be the most unfriendly reader style possible.
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Steve Brown???????!!!!!!0
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Stuart Binns1
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It’s Shaun Bartlett0
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Sad to hear from Jim Rodwell that there will be no streaming of domestic matches next season owing to Sky’s deal with the EFL. Charlton TV will not, therefore, exist in its current format next season.4
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It’s a shame but not really much the club can do about that. Hopefully they continue it for the rest of this seasonBlucher said:Sad to hear from Jim Rodwell that there will be no streaming of domestic matches next season owing to Sky’s deal with the EFL. Charlton TV will not, therefore, exist in its current format next season.2 -
I thought it all sounded positive, they sound quite dynamic within the set up and the philosophy but then again, they know all the right things to say.3
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According to the minutes, in the Shadow Board section: "He [ie Rodwell] said on the current board there are two independent Directors - former footballer Paul Elliott (PE) and Charlton fan and investor Gavin Carter (GC)." And in the Ownership section: "He said the club’s first board meeting takes place on Friday, September 22nd."As I have commented before (and have just rechecked) according to Companies House the only filings for directors are Rodwell and Warrick. There are NO filings for Elliott & Carter.
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/01788466/filing-history
What are the implications of this irregularity? Does anyone know?1 -
I suspect they may be non-executive directors, which would mean they are not registered with companies house, as they should have no day to day role in running the club. They are simply advisors to the board.N01R4M said:According to the minutes, in the Shadow Board section: "He [ie Rodwell] said on the current board there are two independent Directors - former footballer Paul Elliott (PE) and Charlton fan and investor Gavin Carter (GC)." And in the Ownership section: "He said the club’s first board meeting takes place on Friday, September 22nd."As I have commented before (and have just rechecked) according to Companies House the only filings for directors are Rodwell and Warrick. There are NO filings for Elliott & Carter.
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/01788466/filing-history
What are the implications of this irregularity? Does anyone know?4 -
Interesting about Hayes, been offered a different role. Could he be the new Director of Performance?shirty5 said:1 -
Highly unlikely as I doubt he has the necessary qualifications.LargeAddick said:
Interesting about Hayes, been offered a different role. Could he be the new Director of Performance?shirty5 said:
I was thinking he would return to the Academy.4 -
There are no implications because it is not irregular. Next?N01R4M said:According to the minutes, in the Shadow Board section: "He [ie Rodwell] said on the current board there are two independent Directors - former footballer Paul Elliott (PE) and Charlton fan and investor Gavin Carter (GC)." And in the Ownership section: "He said the club’s first board meeting takes place on Friday, September 22nd."As I have commented before (and have just rechecked) according to Companies House the only filings for directors are Rodwell and Warrick. There are NO filings for Elliott & Carter.
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/01788466/filing-history
What are the implications of this irregularity? Does anyone know?3 -
They all know how to speak to the fans as they are professional PR men.
Personally I shall judge them on what they actually achieve and not on what they say.7 -
Exactly how they asked to be judged when they arrived.blackpool72 said:They all know how to speak to the fans as they are professional PR men.
Personally I shall judge them on what they actually achieve and not on what they say.4 - Sponsored links:
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I've been a director of companies but it's been a title and not fulfilling the requirement to be registered at companies house.Major said:
There are no implications because it is not irregular. Next?N01R4M said:According to the minutes, in the Shadow Board section: "He [ie Rodwell] said on the current board there are two independent Directors - former footballer Paul Elliott (PE) and Charlton fan and investor Gavin Carter (GC)." And in the Ownership section: "He said the club’s first board meeting takes place on Friday, September 22nd."As I have commented before (and have just rechecked) according to Companies House the only filings for directors are Rodwell and Warrick. There are NO filings for Elliott & Carter.
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/01788466/filing-history
What are the implications of this irregularity? Does anyone know?2 -
sillav nitram said:I thought it all sounded positive, they sound quite dynamic within the set up and the philosophy but then again, they know all the right things to say.
Exactly how I see it, but I understand I very much want to believe so may be guilty of being taking in by words once again as I was with TS and am aware of several others with doubts which you can not ignore.
With no inside knowledge we do seem to have been poorly managed for years and therefore I am pleased to have a football person running the football side, if you can improve on the scouting, recruitment, data, injuries etc then you may well see a big difference. Weather that is enough on its own, who knows but without it as a base we will get what we have had for the last few years.
Time will tell but they have my support.
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A shame but totally understandable, given we don't have an unlimited budget the resources should be spent elsewhere.Blucher said:Sad to hear from Jim Rodwell that there will be no streaming of domestic matches next season owing to Sky’s deal with the EFL. Charlton TV will not, therefore, exist in its current format next season.4 -
Clearly JR saying how great the museum is is the biggest takeaway but after that:
The club is being funded via equity rather than loans. That's good IMHO but leaves the questions regarding how much and how can it be increased, if required.
The motivation of the beneficial owners remains unclear but it seems they are going to be very hands off. This leaves Methvan as the key player in the whole deal. That he's at the ground and the training ground weekly and is using his PR skills to promote the club refutes any claims that he's not very much involved.
AS has identified the areas that need to be improved eg recruitment, injury management, fitness. Nothing radical there as these should be key areas at any club but many fans have suggested we've not been good enough in these areas. Identifying a problem and solving it are two different things but you need to do the first before you can do the second.
The hunt for the Director of Performance continues.
As mentioned on here by me two weeks ago Cousin Tony may stay but a fortnight on no announcement has been made.
The budget is estimated to be between 2nd and 4th in the division so, as AS acknowledged, we're underperforming on the pitch. No argument from me, or I suspect many others, on that.
Recruitment won't just rely on analytics but will be a mix of stats and watching players live.
The club weren't aware of the planned parking restrictions but now they are.
Agree with everyone who says actions not words and I remain cautious but the fans forum is doing what it it meant to do eg ask questions, raise issues, seek clarification and offer suggestions.22 -
I was hoping an adult would step forward and summarise for us kids , thank you HI8
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Reading the notes the content is an advance on how these things have been previously.
I have questioned the constitution of the fans part of the fans forum previously, and so have other posters.
The Shamocracy can say to anybody interested that they have forged a meaningful relationship with fans, to an extent it is box ticking. However given our experience of regimes then judging them by results is all we really have isn’t it? That’s the meaningful bit.
That’s a reason why my pass/fail judgement rests on results, wins, points and automatic promotion. Hence my fixation as to why we are currently eight points behind (my) target.So judging them on results they are not good enough right now.7 -
Am I the only one to wonder how collegiate fits into the make up of a football manager ? Probably me just being a bit thick.
He said the club put together a long list and shortened it based on looking for someone:- Who is collegiate
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It may mean being able to work productively with all the other staff, and respect the viewpoint of others.3
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Haven’t had time yet to read the notes, does anyone know how much it was costing to run Charlton a season?0
