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Dave Courtney - RIP

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  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,848
    Donations to a mental health or cancer charity would be a much better way to remember a life.

    There may or may not be an argument for not releasing balloons - but now you're telling people how to remember a life? FFS.

    Do you ever post anything related to the actual football club?
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,037
    Bloody hell. Watching that video was a little bit tough. You could tell how much Dave was hurting.

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  • robroy said:
    Imagine telling people how to remember someone’s life for minor environmental points on a football forum. Sure it feels good tho dont it. 😩


    It's not minor at all, this is 1000 balloons that have the potential to cause a lot of damage to wildlife. Actions have consequences and there are much better ways to remember a person's life.

    I remember when Chatlton were gong to release a load of balloons to celebrate promotion, but cancelled it,  as they realised the damage they could cause. 




    Instead they paid thousands of pounds to have a petrol guzzling plane take off and have two men parachute into The Valley. Not sure that was thinking of the environment either.....

    I don't believe its the time or place to be telling others how to remember someone. 
    From memory pretty much everyone said they didn't realise and thought we should do something else.

    Maybe the pandemic and lockdown has made people weirder?
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,566
    Celebrated someone’s passing a few months ago with a balloon release, which was quite emotional and felt very fitting.

    Must be honest, no environment impact and animals etc crossed my mind for a second. People do these things with only with good intentions in mind
    Hopefully now that a few more people have been educated about the harms this can do, they will find a better way of remembering a life.
    When I depart this earth I want my ashes to be fired into space in a large firework and be scattered to the four winds. Don’t really care about any environmental impact. 
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  • bobmunro said:
    Donations to a mental health or cancer charity would be a much better way to remember a life.

    There may or may not be an argument for not releasing balloons - but now you're telling people how to remember a life? FFS.

    Do you ever post anything related to the actual football club?

    At least we are being "educated".
  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 10,663
    Our Karen's do love an argument. I reckon those against the releasing of balloons should turn up and stage a protest before they can be released. I'd love to see how it unfolds.
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,344
    cafcfan said:
    robroy said:
    Imagine telling people how to remember someone’s life for minor environmental points on a football forum. Sure it feels good tho dont it. 😩


    It's not minor at all, this is 1000 balloons that have the potential to cause a lot of damage to wildlife. Actions have consequences and there are much better ways to remember a person's life.

    I remember when Chatlton were gong to release a load of balloons to celebrate promotion, but cancelled it,  as they realised the damage they could cause. 




    Instead they paid thousands of pounds to have a petrol guzzling plane take off and have two men parachute into The Valley. Not sure that was thinking of the environment either.....

    I don't believe its the time or place to be telling others how to remember someone. 
    As I recall it was me that started the thread about balloons for the Portsmouth 25 year anniversary event. And the balloons were indeed cancelled.  I took a load of uninformed abuse for it at the time.

    So, don't worry about the hard of thinking on here @ME4addick.

    In any event, while not wishing to interfere in anyone's celebration of life, any such balloon release requires CAA authority and 28 days notice must be given.  

    The release of small balloons in UK airspace is subject to the requirements of Article 93 of the ANO 2016 (as amended). Outwith the legal requirements, CAA Airspace Regulation may consider it necessary to impose restrictions in order to ensure flight safety, particularly for mass releases within 10 nautical miles of an active aerodrome. All applications should be submitted using the notification form.

    I'm guessing none of us want a squadron of balloons sucked into a jet engine on take-off from LCY?

    I find it difficult to believe people don't think of this stuff.  Anyone who knows the organisers of the balloon release should probably tell them.
    Go round to the Oak tomorrow yourself before or after the game and let them know.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,982
    JohnnyH2 said:
    cafcfan said:
    robroy said:
    Imagine telling people how to remember someone’s life for minor environmental points on a football forum. Sure it feels good tho dont it. 😩


    It's not minor at all, this is 1000 balloons that have the potential to cause a lot of damage to wildlife. Actions have consequences and there are much better ways to remember a person's life.

    I remember when Chatlton were gong to release a load of balloons to celebrate promotion, but cancelled it,  as they realised the damage they could cause. 




    Instead they paid thousands of pounds to have a petrol guzzling plane take off and have two men parachute into The Valley. Not sure that was thinking of the environment either.....

    I don't believe its the time or place to be telling others how to remember someone. 
    As I recall it was me that started the thread about balloons for the Portsmouth 25 year anniversary event. And the balloons were indeed cancelled.  I took a load of uninformed abuse for it at the time.

    So, don't worry about the hard of thinking on here @ME4addick.

    In any event, while not wishing to interfere in anyone's celebration of life, any such balloon release requires CAA authority and 28 days notice must be given.  

    The release of small balloons in UK airspace is subject to the requirements of Article 93 of the ANO 2016 (as amended). Outwith the legal requirements, CAA Airspace Regulation may consider it necessary to impose restrictions in order to ensure flight safety, particularly for mass releases within 10 nautical miles of an active aerodrome. All applications should be submitted using the notification form.

    I'm guessing none of us want a squadron of balloons sucked into a jet engine on take-off from LCY?

    I find it difficult to believe people don't think of this stuff.  Anyone who knows the organisers of the balloon release should probably tell them.
    Go round to the Oak tomorrow yourself before or after the game and let them know.
    He can let them know how ‘hard of thinking’ they are as well.
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,185
    Before we start rattling on about balloons, etc. If you want to do something for the countryside go down to the Darenth Industrial Estate and confront the flytippers. See how your concerns are treated then. 


  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,890
    edited October 2023
    robroy said:
    Imagine telling people how to remember someone’s life for minor environmental points on a football forum. Sure it feels good tho dont it. 😩


    It's not minor at all, this is 1000 balloons that have the potential to cause a lot of damage to wildlife. Actions have consequences and there are much better ways to remember a person's life.

    I remember when Chatlton were gong to release a load of balloons to celebrate promotion, but cancelled it,  as they realised the damage they could cause. 




    Instead they paid thousands of pounds to have a petrol guzzling plane take off and have two men parachute into The Valley. Not sure that was thinking of the environment either.....

    I don't believe its the time or place to be telling others how to remember someone. 
    From memory pretty much everyone said they didn't realise and thought we should do something else.

    Maybe the pandemic and lockdown has made people weirder?
    Only ‘maybe’ you think?😆

    (not commenting on the balloons)
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,469
    cafcfan said:
    robroy said:
    Imagine telling people how to remember someone’s life for minor environmental points on a football forum. Sure it feels good tho dont it. 😩


    It's not minor at all, this is 1000 balloons that have the potential to cause a lot of damage to wildlife. Actions have consequences and there are much better ways to remember a person's life.

    I remember when Chatlton were gong to release a load of balloons to celebrate promotion, but cancelled it,  as they realised the damage they could cause. 




    Instead they paid thousands of pounds to have a petrol guzzling plane take off and have two men parachute into The Valley. Not sure that was thinking of the environment either.....

    I don't believe its the time or place to be telling others how to remember someone. 
    As I recall it was me that started the thread about balloons for the Portsmouth 25 year anniversary event. And the balloons were indeed cancelled.  I took a load of uninformed abuse for it at the time.

    So, don't worry about the hard of thinking on here @ME4addick.

    In any event, while not wishing to interfere in anyone's celebration of life, any such balloon release requires CAA authority and 28 days notice must be given.  

    The release of small balloons in UK airspace is subject to the requirements of Article 93 of the ANO 2016 (as amended). Outwith the legal requirements, CAA Airspace Regulation may consider it necessary to impose restrictions in order to ensure flight safety, particularly for mass releases within 10 nautical miles of an active aerodrome. All applications should be submitted using the notification form.

    I'm guessing none of us want a squadron of balloons sucked into a jet engine on take-off from LCY?

    I find it difficult to believe people don't think of this stuff.  Anyone who knows the organisers of the balloon release should probably tell them.



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  • robroy said:
    Imagine telling people how to remember someone’s life for minor environmental points on a football forum. Sure it feels good tho dont it. 😩


    It's not minor at all, this is 1000 balloons that have the potential to cause a lot of damage to wildlife. Actions have consequences and there are much better ways to remember a person's life.

    I remember when Chatlton were gong to release a load of balloons to celebrate promotion, but cancelled it,  as they realised the damage they could cause. 




    Instead they paid thousands of pounds to have a petrol guzzling plane take off and have two men parachute into The Valley. Not sure that was thinking of the environment either.....

    I don't believe its the time or place to be telling others how to remember someone. 
    From memory pretty much everyone said they didn't realise and thought we should do something else.

    Maybe the pandemic and lockdown has made people weirder?
    Only ‘maybe’ you think?😆

    (not commenting on the balloons)
    I swear people wouldn't give a shit about minor things like balloons back then. Now you've got folk googling the opening hours of London City Airport!

    It's had a bigger reaction than a very tough to watch video someone made for his love ones to watch after he killed himself.
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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,566
    It's the usual suspects who jump on anything I post, that have 'hijacked' this thread. I have only pointed out how damaging to the environment such a balloon release is. We have one planet and we need to start taking better care of it.

    I have not been disrespectful to Mr Courtney, just pointed out the damage that can be done by this sort of action. 

    I think the outcry and lols for my posts says more about those posters, than it does about my genuine care for wildlife and our environment.
    Do you ever come down off your high horse?
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,857
    clive said:
    cafcfan said:
    robroy said:
    Imagine telling people how to remember someone’s life for minor environmental points on a football forum. Sure it feels good tho dont it. 😩


    It's not minor at all, this is 1000 balloons that have the potential to cause a lot of damage to wildlife. Actions have consequences and there are much better ways to remember a person's life.

    I remember when Chatlton were gong to release a load of balloons to celebrate promotion, but cancelled it,  as they realised the damage they could cause. 




    Instead they paid thousands of pounds to have a petrol guzzling plane take off and have two men parachute into The Valley. Not sure that was thinking of the environment either.....

    I don't believe its the time or place to be telling others how to remember someone. 
    As I recall it was me that started the thread about balloons for the Portsmouth 25 year anniversary event. And the balloons were indeed cancelled.  I took a load of uninformed abuse for it at the time.

    So, don't worry about the hard of thinking on here @ME4addick.

    In any event, while not wishing to interfere in anyone's celebration of life, any such balloon release requires CAA authority and 28 days notice must be given.  

    The release of small balloons in UK airspace is subject to the requirements of Article 93 of the ANO 2016 (as amended). Outwith the legal requirements, CAA Airspace Regulation may consider it necessary to impose restrictions in order to ensure flight safety, particularly for mass releases within 10 nautical miles of an active aerodrome. All applications should be submitted using the notification form.

    I'm guessing none of us want a squadron of balloons sucked into a jet engine on take-off from LCY?

    I find it difficult to believe people don't think of this stuff.  Anyone who knows the organisers of the balloon release should probably tell them.



    London City Airport

    To minimise our impact on local residents, we only operate flights between the following hours:

    Airport operating hours


    Date / day




    Time

    Weekdays

    6.30am to 10.30pm

    Saturday

    6.30am to 1pm

    Sunday

    12.30pm to 10.30pm

    Public & Bank Holidays

    9.00am to 10.30pm

    25th December

    Closed

    The final 30 minutes of operation are only for flights which were scheduled earlier but unavoidably delayed.
    https://www.londoncityairport.com/corporate/environment/noise-management-and-monitoring/airport-operating-hours
    I find it difficult to believe people don't look this stuff up....
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,249
    Steady on, there's a pile on starting which I don't feel comfortable with. The beauty of this forum is the abstract and sometimes odd views. Never met Dave Courtenay but was a passenger in a car that nearly flattened a peacock in Plumstead which I assume was his. Thing was massive and just looked at us 

    RIP


  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    Imagine telling people how to remember someone’s life for minor environmental points on a football forum. Sure it feels good tho dont it. 😩


    It's not minor at all, this is 1000 balloons that have the potential to cause a lot of damage to wildlife. Actions have consequences and there are much better ways to remember a person's life.

    I remember when Chatlton were going to release a load of balloons to celebrate promotion, but cancelled it,  as they realised the damage they could cause. 




    If there are 1,000 balloons in The Royal Oak no one will be able to get in.
    NB there is also a suggested 64th minute applause for Dave who was aged 64.
    No offence to family, friends and acquaintances, but I've followed Charlton home and away for over 50 years and I'd never heard of nor recognise Dave Courtney. RIP.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,922
    I should add, RIP. I couldn't watch much of the video, just made me incredibly sad how matter of fact he was being. I had no idea he was a Charlton fan, not a name that's popped up on lists before as far as i remember. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,630
    Celebrated someone’s passing a few months ago with a balloon release, which was quite emotional and felt very fitting.

    Must be honest, no environment impact and animals etc crossed my mind for a second. People do these things with only with good intentions in mind
    Hopefully now that a few more people have been educated about the harms this can do, they will find a better way of remembering a life.
    When I depart this earth I want my ashes to be fired into space in a large firework and be scattered to the four winds. Don’t really care about any environmental impact. 
    Your ashes are going straight in the sea mate. The kids have already drawn lots as to who is going to throw the urn....
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,630
    Imagine telling people how to remember someone’s life for minor environmental points on a football forum. Sure it feels good tho dont it. 😩


    It's not minor at all, this is 1000 balloons that have the potential to cause a lot of damage to wildlife. Actions have consequences and there are much better ways to remember a person's life.

    I remember when Chatlton were going to release a load of balloons to celebrate promotion, but cancelled it,  as they realised the damage they could cause. 




    If there are 1,000 balloons in The Royal Oak no one will be able to get in.
    NB there is also a suggested 64th minute applause for Dave who was aged 64.
    No offence to family, friends and acquaintances, but I've followed Charlton home and away for over 50 years and I'd never heard of nor recognise Dave Courtney. RIP.
    Echo this.

    Sad end to what seems like a very colourful life. But at least he chose his own way of going, which many of us can't.

    RIP.
  • Imagine telling people how to remember someone’s life for minor environmental points on a football forum. Sure it feels good tho dont it. 😩


    It's not minor at all, this is 1000 balloons that have the potential to cause a lot of damage to wildlife. Actions have consequences and there are much better ways to remember a person's life.

    I remember when Chatlton were going to release a load of balloons to celebrate promotion, but cancelled it,  as they realised the damage they could cause. 




    If there are 1,000 balloons in The Royal Oak no one will be able to get in.
    NB there is also a suggested 64th minute applause for Dave who was aged 64.
    No offence to family, friends and acquaintances, but I've followed Charlton home and away for over 50 years and I'd never heard of nor recognise Dave Courtney. RIP.
    I think the plan is to have the balloons outside the pub.

    Whenever ME14 or Seth post there's a pile on. I don't get.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    The bloke was a fan who done quite a bit for charity and who took his own life relatively publicly. Personally can't see how people clapping in his memory would trigger anyone. It's not compulsory to join in and it's not like it's being arranged officially by the Club.