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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)

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  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,058
    Macronate said:
    Excellent business so far, knew he’d come good:


    Must have lent Scott his super duper transfer phone. 
    Unlike that fraud, Scott seems to have at least charged the phone up a bit for this window.
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,282
    edited January 2024
    Scoham said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    People can’t stop themselves from finding a negative spin on things. It honestly amazes me.
    Don’t worry, plenty on here still!! 
    I don’t know why some thought they’d spend millions buying the club and covering the losses only to bring in frees and loans. They were always going to pay fees for players, just as RD and TS did.

    It might be that it’s partly funded by selling players, but I have no issue with that as long as we end the window with a stronger and more balanced squad than when we went into it.

    Yes, this has always been my thought and why my only question at the Bromley Addicks thing recently was whether the £10-12M number was accurate and whether it was paid upfront in cash. It was a reassuring answer.
    Putting together a SMT to then put the plan in place also wise.
    They were always going to spend.
    The question is, are the SMT good enough to spend well and how long will the owners hang around if not.
    The 4 incomings to date all seem a step up generally and could be here next season even re the loanees.  We remain at least 4-5 short of a promotion capable squad though and those 4-5 are all at the elite player level imo.
    The really odd thing is why they didn't go harder in the summer, I get they bought the club late which won't have helped but acquiring JCH who was still available and a couple of others would see us challenging for play offs this season and could have saved them many £m's of being stuck here again next year.  That was a big fail imo.
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,033
    Last week I wasn't impressed with the loan signings. This week I am very pleased.

    I see the Conor Coventry deal as being similar to when we brought Alan Curbishley in as a player from Aston Villa. Iirc he came in around Xmas 1984. He was a class above the signings that we normally made in that era and it was only in the summer when Lennie added the likes of John Humphrey, John Pearson,John Pender, Mark Reid, George Shipley and Steve Thompson in that we could see the significance that it was an early building block in what was a top tier promotion team.

    People always complain how quickly we bring in targets in the summer. This means that CC will be our player throughout pre season.
  • JordanJLD
    JordanJLD Posts: 165
    edited January 2024
    Macronate said:
    Excellent business so far, knew he’d come good:


    Must have lent Scott his super duper transfer phone. 
    We should have known Southall was taking the piss earlier. Two company phones is outrageous. At least he only had one Range Rover 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    sam3110 said:
    And who, pray tell is buying a player that's injured until April?


    Stoke City bought Alfie Doughty when he had a bad Hamstring injury from Cafc and was 3 to 4 months from fitness.
  • Personally I think we are building for a big push next season, and we're using this window to get the foundations in place. As I've said before on many occasions the owners of our club are minted, and will want to make a success of it, even if it is for their own personal gain. Mr Friedman alone is worth 5b, and a very astute businessman. The summer window will be where we really push for signings.

    Next season will be one to watch imo.
    Not completely convinced but I’ve given you a like.
    I'll take that. 
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,529
    Actually have a bit of a buzz preparing to head up to SE7 this morning following the signings so far. We all knew we needed a pretty major overhaul, not just 1 or 2 and it appears our owners are on the same page. Alignment in thinking and aspirations is an encouraging sign.

    A decent quality striker for this level and a winger to match and the second half of the season can be used to send a message to us fans and the bookmakers for next season. 

    I still hope both Dobbo and CBT stay. Your no nonsense tackling midfielder/breaker of opposition play should not be your star player, but has an important role to fulfil in a team and unless the yet to much be seen Terry Taylor is genuinely as good as it better than Dobbo, think he should stay and be one of our good L1 player class players.

    CBT with better passing and feeding him around him could become a better player than we already have on our hands. Hope we can keep him too and address the RW side with a player equally as potent. 
  • Scoham said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    People can’t stop themselves from finding a negative spin on things. It honestly amazes me.
    Don’t worry, plenty on here still!! 
    I don’t know why some thought they’d spend millions buying the club and covering the losses only to bring in frees and loans. They were always going to pay fees for players, just as RD and TS did.

    It might be that it’s partly funded by selling players, but I have no issue with that as long as we end the window with a stronger and more balanced squad than when we went into it.

    Yes, this has always been my thought and why my only question at the Bromley Addicks thing recently was whether the £10-12M number was accurate and whether it was paid upfront in cash. It was a reassuring answer.
    Putting together a SMT to then put the plan in place also wise.
    They were always going to spend.
    The question is, are the SMT good enough to spend well and how long will the owners hang around if not.
    The 4 incomings to date all seem a step up generally and could be here next season even re the loanees.  We remain at least 4-5 short of a promotion capable squad though and those 4-5 are all at the elite player level imo.
    The really odd thing is why they didn't go harder in the summer, I get they bought the club late which won't have helped but acquiring JCH who was still available and a couple of others would see us challenging for play offs this season and could have saved them many £m's of being stuck here again next year.  That was a big fail imo.
    Should the SMT not deliver then I’d expect them to be replaced rather than the money men upping sticks. They obviously rely on Methven at this point but they’re not stupid either. They’ll be taking other football advice if we’re not top six next season or at the very least the season after. I definitely agree that the intention was always to spend enough money to get out of league one. Consolidate in The Championship and see which way the mop flops. As an investment with a plan of getting a return, the club has to reach The Premier League. I’m guessing they’ve given themselves three years to get out of league one and another three to start challenging at the top of The Championship. Anything else just doesn’t stack up. 
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,257
    Be interested to see who we can also ship on now.  We need to make a statement about our intentions for next season and the type of player and attitude they need to bring if we are serious about going for it.  I want players joining who don’t have to see the likes of Fraser who has been cruising since he got here.  If we continue to bring in players of similar standing to Coventry, we need all bad apples gone 
  • Scoham said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    People can’t stop themselves from finding a negative spin on things. It honestly amazes me.
    Don’t worry, plenty on here still!! 
    I don’t know why some thought they’d spend millions buying the club and covering the losses only to bring in frees and loans. They were always going to pay fees for players, just as RD and TS did.

    It might be that it’s partly funded by selling players, but I have no issue with that as long as we end the window with a stronger and more balanced squad than when we went into it.

    Yes, this has always been my thought and why my only question at the Bromley Addicks thing recently was whether the £10-12M number was accurate and whether it was paid upfront in cash. It was a reassuring answer.
    Putting together a SMT to then put the plan in place also wise.
    They were always going to spend.
    The question is, are the SMT good enough to spend well and how long will the owners hang around if not.
    The 4 incomings to date all seem a step up generally and could be here next season even re the loanees.  We remain at least 4-5 short of a promotion capable squad though and those 4-5 are all at the elite player level imo.
    The really odd thing is why they didn't go harder in the summer, I get they bought the club late which won't have helped but acquiring JCH who was still available and a couple of others would see us challenging for play offs this season and could have saved them many £m's of being stuck here again next year.  That was a big fail imo.
    Should the SMT not deliver then I’d expect them to be replaced rather than the money men upping sticks. They obviously rely on Methven at this point but they’re not stupid either. They’ll be taking other football advice if we’re not top six next season or at the very least the season after. I definitely agree that the intention was always to spend enough money to get out of league one. Consolidate in The Championship and see which way the mop flops. As an investment with a plan of getting a return, the club has to reach The Premier League. I’m guessing they’ve given themselves three years to get out of league one and another three to start challenging at the top of The Championship. Anything else just doesn’t stack up. 
    I think you're right, the money men will be expecting whatever the promise is within perhaps the typical 5 year horizon and won't up sticks too early without really good reasons.
    They'll have regular updates from the SMT & CM on the plan, budget, milestones and progress and will also have 'their people' keeping an eye on things and getting independent 'how's it looking' reports from somewhere other than the SMT/CM.
    CM may well be able to distance himself from the 'operations' in case things don't go to plan, Rodwell and Scott are right in the firing line.
     For me it's looking so far so good in this window. Excluding the guys already on loan and Abankwah who still shows as a squad member we've got a current headcount of 31 on the club website so I'm guessing the 3 x 8 thing is more a budget target for the medium term but some will go out on transfer or loan before the end of the month.

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  • The financial clout of this ownership  is much higher than its ever been. While it remains to be seen how much is prepared to be spent, this window so far has attracted envious eyes from a number of other club’s supporters. Long may it continue.
  • Macronate said:
    Excellent business so far, knew he’d come good:


    Should have known something was wrong with those room temp drinks.
  • For me an ownership group is primarily judged on three things.  One - do they have the wealth to invest meaningful dollars on transfers.  Two - do they have the commitment to continue to pay for transfers on a consistent basis over time (understanding that the amount of investment can wax and wane over the years.  Three - do they pick a senior leadership team who understand the sport but just as importantly learn from their mistakes to correct poor decisions related to poor player signings/ poor manager selections.

    Based on the backgrounds/bios of the owners, I think it is pretty clear that the current owners meet criteria number one.  The other two are certainly TBD but certainly there are encouraging signs that they may be learning from some initial mistakes.  The continued question on my end is will they be willing to continue to invest and not just in the first year or two.  Lest we forget, both douchealet and Saandgard both initially sank money into decent sized transfer fees but then either due to a lack of interest (Roland) or changing personal financial circumstances (Saandgaard) backed off significantly.
  • PWADDICK
    PWADDICK Posts: 526
    Today is rare opportunity for the most Alpha transfer dealing of all time. Announce JCH at Half-Time and parade him around in front of the Peterborough fans #DareToDream
    That’ll make up for the 3-0 half time score line
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,737
    edited January 2024
    Looks as though CBT could be off. Losing him would be a hammer blow to this window's overall look imo
  • Croydon said:
    Looks as though CBT could be off. Losing him would be a hammer blow to this window's overall look imk
    I wouldn't be too upset if he left tbh, as long as we replace him
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,683
    Croydon said:
    Looks as though CBT could be off. Losing him would be a hammer blow to this window's overall look imk
    It’s shit but was inevitable. Might as well get a bit of cash out of him 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,066
    Wouldn't be surprised if we've seen the last of Scott Fraser too. 
  • Croydon said:
    Looks as though CBT could be off. Losing him would be a hammer blow to this window's overall look imk
    It’s shit but was inevitable. Might as well get a bit of cash out of him 
    100% this

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  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,964
    MarcusH26 said:
    Wouldn't be surprised if we've seen the last of Scott Fraser too. 
    Fingers crossed 🤞 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,005
    Croydon said:
    Looks as though CBT could be off. Losing him would be a hammer blow to this window's overall look imo
    It would be a blow but not necessarily an insurmountable one IF it facilitates/indicates a move to a different shape or formation. If we keep doing the same thing, simply hoping that one or both Campbells will miraculously just start pulling CBT numbers then yeah we're going to be in trouble.

    But if him going frees up funds for a JCH or Ladapo type and we go two up front then we can pivot nicely and it needn't be a crippling move. 

    If our current owners are seriously planning ahead they really should have a contingency plan for his departure already honestly.
  • N01R4M
    N01R4M Posts: 2,577
    JordanJLD said:
    Macronate said:
    Excellent business so far, knew he’d come good:


    Must have lent Scott his super duper transfer phone. 
    We should have known Southall was taking the piss earlier. Two company phones is outrageous. At least he only had one Range Rover 



    Plus a second Range Rover for his girlfriend Jade - you know, the one with the inflated - err, umm - ego?

    Let none of us ever forget the scale of the nest-feathering which went on during the first few months of 2020 under Southall's stewardship.

    Anyone had any recent news of Southall's (& Jade's) activities, especially since he went bankrupt last year?
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,305
    Interesting that Curbs and Charlotte were joking about breaking news and the fact JCH isnt playing today. More to it or just having some fun?
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,305
    MarcusH26 said:
    Just as talismanic for us as JCH has been, and is 3 years younger. I'd be trying to get double that
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,605
    sam3110 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Just as talismanic for us as JCH has been, and is 3 years younger. I'd be trying to get double that
    But if he won't resign are we better off accepting 250k now and use it aquiring someone who will be here next season?
  • Steven81
    Steven81 Posts: 1,014
    Same old merry go round 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,305
    sam3110 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Just as talismanic for us as JCH has been, and is 3 years younger. I'd be trying to get double that
    But if he won't resign are we better off accepting 250k now and use it aquiring someone who will be here next season?
    I don't think so no, I'd rather stick with him and see what happens later on in the season. We make a late charge and he might be convinced to stay, or at the very least he keeps us up!
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,282
    edited January 2024
    If we sold CBT for.anything close to £250K then the £500K for an older JCH looks way over the top to me.