I don’t know why some thought they’d spend millions buying the club and covering the losses only to bring in frees and loans. They were always going to pay fees for players, just as RD and TS did.
It might be that it’s partly funded by selling players, but I have no issue with that as long as we end the window with a stronger and more balanced squad than when we went into it.
Yes, this has always been my thought and why my only question at the Bromley Addicks thing recently was whether the £10-12M number was accurate and whether it was paid upfront in cash. It was a reassuring answer. Putting together a SMT to then put the plan in place also wise. They were always going to spend. The question is, are the SMT good enough to spend well and how long will the owners hang around if not. The 4 incomings to date all seem a step up generally and could be here next season even re the loanees. We remain at least 4-5 short of a promotion capable squad though and those 4-5 are all at the elite player level imo. The really odd thing is why they didn't go harder in the summer, I get they bought the club late which won't have helped but acquiring JCH who was still available and a couple of others would see us challenging for play offs this season and could have saved them many £m's of being stuck here again next year. That was a big fail imo.
Last week I wasn't impressed with the loan signings. This week I am very pleased.
I see the Conor Coventry deal as being similar to when we brought Alan Curbishley in as a player from Aston Villa. Iirc he came in around Xmas 1984. He was a class above the signings that we normally made in that era and it was only in the summer when Lennie added the likes of John Humphrey, John Pearson,John Pender, Mark Reid, George Shipley and Steve Thompson in that we could see the significance that it was an early building block in what was a top tier promotion team.
People always complain how quickly we bring in targets in the summer. This means that CC will be our player throughout pre season.
Personally I think we are building for a big push next season, and we're using this window to get the foundations in place. As I've said before on many occasions the owners of our club are minted, and will want to make a success of it, even if it is for their own personal gain. Mr Friedman alone is worth 5b, and a very astute businessman. The summer window will be where we really push for signings.
Next season will be one to watch imo.
Not completely convinced but I’ve given you a like.
Actually have a bit of a buzz preparing to head up to SE7 this morning following the signings so far. We all knew we needed a pretty major overhaul, not just 1 or 2 and it appears our owners are on the same page. Alignment in thinking and aspirations is an encouraging sign.
A decent quality striker for this level and a winger to match and the second half of the season can be used to send a message to us fans and the bookmakers for next season.
I still hope both Dobbo and CBT stay. Your no nonsense tackling midfielder/breaker of opposition play should not be your star player, but has an important role to fulfil in a team and unless the yet to much be seen Terry Taylor is genuinely as good as it better than Dobbo, think he should stay and be one of our good L1 player class players.
CBT with better passing and feeding him around him could become a better player than we already have on our hands. Hope we can keep him too and address the RW side with a player equally as potent.
I don’t know why some thought they’d spend millions buying the club and covering the losses only to bring in frees and loans. They were always going to pay fees for players, just as RD and TS did.
It might be that it’s partly funded by selling players, but I have no issue with that as long as we end the window with a stronger and more balanced squad than when we went into it.
Yes, this has always been my thought and why my only question at the Bromley Addicks thing recently was whether the £10-12M number was accurate and whether it was paid upfront in cash. It was a reassuring answer. Putting together a SMT to then put the plan in place also wise. They were always going to spend. The question is, are the SMT good enough to spend well and how long will the owners hang around if not. The 4 incomings to date all seem a step up generally and could be here next season even re the loanees. We remain at least 4-5 short of a promotion capable squad though and those 4-5 are all at the elite player level imo. The really odd thing is why they didn't go harder in the summer, I get they bought the club late which won't have helped but acquiring JCH who was still available and a couple of others would see us challenging for play offs this season and could have saved them many £m's of being stuck here again next year. That was a big fail imo.
Should the SMT not deliver then I’d expect them to be replaced rather than the money men upping sticks. They obviously rely on Methven at this point but they’re not stupid either. They’ll be taking other football advice if we’re not top six next season or at the very least the season after. I definitely agree that the intention was always to spend enough money to get out of league one. Consolidate in The Championship and see which way the mop flops. As an investment with a plan of getting a return, the club has to reach The Premier League. I’m guessing they’ve given themselves three years to get out of league one and another three to start challenging at the top of The Championship. Anything else just doesn’t stack up.
Be interested to see who we can also ship on now. We need to make a statement about our intentions for next season and the type of player and attitude they need to bring if we are serious about going for it. I want players joining who don’t have to see the likes of Fraser who has been cruising since he got here. If we continue to bring in players of similar standing to Coventry, we need all bad apples gone
I don’t know why some thought they’d spend millions buying the club and covering the losses only to bring in frees and loans. They were always going to pay fees for players, just as RD and TS did.
It might be that it’s partly funded by selling players, but I have no issue with that as long as we end the window with a stronger and more balanced squad than when we went into it.
Yes, this has always been my thought and why my only question at the Bromley Addicks thing recently was whether the £10-12M number was accurate and whether it was paid upfront in cash. It was a reassuring answer. Putting together a SMT to then put the plan in place also wise. They were always going to spend. The question is, are the SMT good enough to spend well and how long will the owners hang around if not. The 4 incomings to date all seem a step up generally and could be here next season even re the loanees. We remain at least 4-5 short of a promotion capable squad though and those 4-5 are all at the elite player level imo. The really odd thing is why they didn't go harder in the summer, I get they bought the club late which won't have helped but acquiring JCH who was still available and a couple of others would see us challenging for play offs this season and could have saved them many £m's of being stuck here again next year. That was a big fail imo.
Should the SMT not deliver then I’d expect them to be replaced rather than the money men upping sticks. They obviously rely on Methven at this point but they’re not stupid either. They’ll be taking other football advice if we’re not top six next season or at the very least the season after. I definitely agree that the intention was always to spend enough money to get out of league one. Consolidate in The Championship and see which way the mop flops. As an investment with a plan of getting a return, the club has to reach The Premier League. I’m guessing they’ve given themselves three years to get out of league one and another three to start challenging at the top of The Championship. Anything else just doesn’t stack up.
I think you're right, the money men will be expecting whatever the promise is within perhaps the typical 5 year horizon and won't up sticks too early without really good reasons. They'll have regular updates from the SMT & CM on the plan, budget, milestones and progress and will also have 'their people' keeping an eye on things and getting independent 'how's it looking' reports from somewhere other than the SMT/CM. CM may well be able to distance himself from the 'operations' in case things don't go to plan, Rodwell and Scott are right in the firing line. For me it's looking so far so good in this window. Excluding the guys already on loan and Abankwah who still shows as a squad member we've got a current headcount of 31 on the club website so I'm guessing the 3 x 8 thing is more a budget target for the medium term but some will go out on transfer or loan before the end of the month.
The financial clout of this ownership is much higher than its ever been. While it remains to be seen how much is prepared to be spent, this window so far has attracted envious eyes from a number of other club’s supporters. Long may it continue.
Today is rare opportunity for the most Alpha transfer dealing of all time. Announce JCH at Half-Time and parade him around in front of the Peterborough fans #DareToDream
For me an ownership group is primarily judged on three things. One - do they have the wealth to invest meaningful dollars on transfers. Two - do they have the commitment to continue to pay for transfers on a consistent basis over time (understanding that the amount of investment can wax and wane over the years. Three - do they pick a senior leadership team who understand the sport but just as importantly learn from their mistakes to correct poor decisions related to poor player signings/ poor manager selections.
Based on the backgrounds/bios of the owners, I think it is pretty clear that the current owners meet criteria number one. The other two are certainly TBD but certainly there are encouraging signs that they may be learning from some initial mistakes. The continued question on my end is will they be willing to continue to invest and not just in the first year or two. Lest we forget, both douchealet and Saandgard both initially sank money into decent sized transfer fees but then either due to a lack of interest (Roland) or changing personal financial circumstances (Saandgaard) backed off significantly.
Today is rare opportunity for the most Alpha transfer dealing of all time. Announce JCH at Half-Time and parade him around in front of the Peterborough fans #DareToDream
Looks as though CBT could be off. Losing him would be a hammer blow to this window's overall look imo
It would be a blow but not necessarily an insurmountable one IF it facilitates/indicates a move to a different shape or formation. If we keep doing the same thing, simply hoping that one or both Campbells will miraculously just start pulling CBT numbers then yeah we're going to be in trouble.
But if him going frees up funds for a JCH or Ladapo type and we go two up front then we can pivot nicely and it needn't be a crippling move.
If our current owners are seriously planning ahead they really should have a contingency plan for his departure already honestly.
Must have lent Scott his super duper transfer phone.
We should have known Southall was taking the piss earlier. Two company phones is outrageous. At least he only had one Range Rover
Plus a second Range Rover for his girlfriend Jade - you know, the one with the inflated - err, umm - ego? Let none of us ever forget the scale of the nest-feathering which went on during the first few months of 2020 under Southall's stewardship.
Anyone had any recent news of Southall's (& Jade's) activities, especially since he went bankrupt last year?
Just as talismanic for us as JCH has been, and is 3 years younger. I'd be trying to get double that
But if he won't resign are we better off accepting 250k now and use it aquiring someone who will be here next season?
I don't think so no, I'd rather stick with him and see what happens later on in the season. We make a late charge and he might be convinced to stay, or at the very least he keeps us up!
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Yes, this has always been my thought and why my only question at the Bromley Addicks thing recently was whether the £10-12M number was accurate and whether it was paid upfront in cash. It was a reassuring answer.
Putting together a SMT to then put the plan in place also wise.
They were always going to spend.
The question is, are the SMT good enough to spend well and how long will the owners hang around if not.
The 4 incomings to date all seem a step up generally and could be here next season even re the loanees. We remain at least 4-5 short of a promotion capable squad though and those 4-5 are all at the elite player level imo.
The really odd thing is why they didn't go harder in the summer, I get they bought the club late which won't have helped but acquiring JCH who was still available and a couple of others would see us challenging for play offs this season and could have saved them many £m's of being stuck here again next year. That was a big fail imo.
I see the Conor Coventry deal as being similar to when we brought Alan Curbishley in as a player from Aston Villa. Iirc he came in around Xmas 1984. He was a class above the signings that we normally made in that era and it was only in the summer when Lennie added the likes of John Humphrey, John Pearson,John Pender, Mark Reid, George Shipley and Steve Thompson in that we could see the significance that it was an early building block in what was a top tier promotion team.
People always complain how quickly we bring in targets in the summer. This means that CC will be our player throughout pre season.
Stoke City bought Alfie Doughty when he had a bad Hamstring injury from Cafc and was 3 to 4 months from fitness.
A decent quality striker for this level and a winger to match and the second half of the season can be used to send a message to us fans and the bookmakers for next season.
CBT with better passing and feeding him around him could become a better player than we already have on our hands. Hope we can keep him too and address the RW side with a player equally as potent.
They'll have regular updates from the SMT & CM on the plan, budget, milestones and progress and will also have 'their people' keeping an eye on things and getting independent 'how's it looking' reports from somewhere other than the SMT/CM.
CM may well be able to distance himself from the 'operations' in case things don't go to plan, Rodwell and Scott are right in the firing line.
For me it's looking so far so good in this window. Excluding the guys already on loan and Abankwah who still shows as a squad member we've got a current headcount of 31 on the club website so I'm guessing the 3 x 8 thing is more a budget target for the medium term but some will go out on transfer or loan before the end of the month.
Based on the backgrounds/bios of the owners, I think it is pretty clear that the current owners meet criteria number one. The other two are certainly TBD but certainly there are encouraging signs that they may be learning from some initial mistakes. The continued question on my end is will they be willing to continue to invest and not just in the first year or two. Lest we forget, both douchealet and Saandgard both initially sank money into decent sized transfer fees but then either due to a lack of interest (Roland) or changing personal financial circumstances (Saandgaard) backed off significantly.
But if him going frees up funds for a JCH or Ladapo type and we go two up front then we can pivot nicely and it needn't be a crippling move.
If our current owners are seriously planning ahead they really should have a contingency plan for his departure already honestly.
£250k bid rejected for CBT