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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)
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Ah, apologies, I haven't been reading this forum a tonne atmHenry Irving said:0 -
Stockton is the absolute opposite to what we should going for. Not even in the top ten strikers we should be looking at.19
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Moving Scott Fraser on is exactly the sort of thing we need to be doing. Burton, MK, Ipswich, Charlton. This just about sums him up. Hes an ok League One footballer, but never been good enough to be part of a promotion winning side. Not quick enough to play as a winger, not athletic enough to play cm, and not productive enough at 10 to play for a top League One side.24
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No surprises that Fraser is basically told he can leave, in the battle for a midfield berth he has the 3 new lads, Watson and Dobson ahead of him, and we know Appleton likes McGrandles, and when Taylor and Camara are fit we'll have way too many.2
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It's like the Bowyer promotion year, tonnes of midfielders, a great winger for the level without one to play on the other side. Obviously, the quality of players is very different but funny we've got ourselves in this position againsam3110 said:No surprises that Fraser is basically told he can leave, in the battle for a midfield berth he has the 3 new lads, Watson and Dobson ahead of him, and we know Appleton likes McGrandles, and when Taylor and Camara are fit we'll have way too many.0 -
So he insisted on starting Fraser ahead of Watson time and time again, but now says he's not fast or energetic enough and can leave.49
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Whatever happens this window at least this thread has seen some more excitement than normal. Can't take much more2
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Some (probably bullshit) rumours that if Watson started a certain amount of times between the start of the season and January then the loan fee we had to pay was bigger.Chunes said:So he insisted on starting Fraser ahead of Watson time and time again, but now says he's not fast or energetic enough and can leave.
I personally think we're trying to get them to recall him but Luton don't care he's not starting.0 -
Clubs are usually incentivised to play young loanees and it costs more to leave them out. Can't imagine it being the reverse.sam3110 said:
Some (probably bullshit) rumours that if Watson started a certain amount of times between the start of the season and January then the loan fee we had to pay was bigger.Chunes said:So he insisted on starting Fraser ahead of Watson time and time again, but now says he's not fast or energetic enough and can leave.
I personally think we're trying to get them to recall him but Luton don't care he's not starting.1 -
Knowing our luck will do a swap deal, Stockton for Fraser0
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Perhaps he saw him as one of our better players and wanted to give him a run of games to show it? Now MA has seen he’s not up to it?Chunes said:So he insisted on starting Fraser ahead of Watson time and time again, but now says he's not fast or energetic enough and can leave.2 -
We should use our surplus players as bait, but swapping a cart horse for a cart horse will not solve anythingcabbles said:Knowing our luck will do a swap deal, Stockton for Fraser1 -
Nooooooo. TT was very good yesterday, and is normally pretty steady, especially in his favoured CB role. It does no harm to have a versatile left sided player like him on the bench. Not first choice, but on the bench is fine. Ness is still young and maybe not ready for the level required for a promotion push. Not yet at least.Oh Eddie Youds... said:
Would rather this than another Tedic on loan.FAVADDICK said:Nixon saying we're in for cole stockton
Straight swop deal for Terrell Thomas who they were after last season.If you want to bring in another CB it can’t be a bit of a punt, it would need to be someone proven and ready to go.5 -
I rate him but our midfield is stocked nowRichard J said:
If we were exchanging players with Burton what about Joe Powell?cabbles said:Knowing our luck will do a swap deal, Stockton for Fraser
We have been sniffing around Stockton but I personally don’t rate him. He “downed tools” for the last club, picked up for the last 5 months to get a move ti Burton but that’s not worked. I still think he’s a one season wonder and not what we need11 -
Think we need a real team player who wants to be at the club. We have bags loads of potential coming through at the club up front which will take a few years to come to fruition for the first team. Having someone around that can help them in that journey as well as banging the goals for the next couple of years will be perfect.Swisdom said:
I rate him but our midfield is stocked nowRichard J said:
If we were exchanging players with Burton what about Joe Powell?cabbles said:Knowing our luck will do a swap deal, Stockton for Fraser
We have been sniffing around Stockton but I personally don’t rate him. He “downed tools” for the last club, picked up for the last 5 months to get a move ti Burton but that’s not worked. I still think he’s a one season wonder and not what we need1 -
I think you meant to say 5 games mate.Swisdom said:
I rate him but our midfield is stocked nowRichard J said:
If we were exchanging players with Burton what about Joe Powell?cabbles said:Knowing our luck will do a swap deal, Stockton for Fraser
We have been sniffing around Stockton but I personally don’t rate him. He “downed tools” for the last club, picked up for the last 5 months to get a move ti Burton but that’s not worked. I still think he’s a one season wonder and not what we need
He had a real case of the Adam Matthews 😉0 -
So the Cole Stockton links are genuine, get in
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Stockton isn't what we need. Yes he's a big lump but I think people are conned into rating him because he usually performs at The Valley. Technically he's nothing special and he's used to being the big fish which he won't be here4
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There's about a dozen strikers I'd rather have than Stockton8
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The big problem with the above is that Thomas isn’t a left sided player.JamesSeed said:
Nooooooo. TT was very good yesterday, and is normally pretty steady, especially in his favoured CB role. It does no harm to have a versatile left sided player like him on the bench. Not first choice, but on the bench is fine. Ness is still young and maybe not ready for the level required for a promotion push. Not yet at least.Oh Eddie Youds... said:
Would rather this than another Tedic on loan.FAVADDICK said:Nixon saying we're in for cole stockton
Straight swop deal for Terrell Thomas who they were after last season.If you want to bring in another CB it can’t be a bit of a punt, it would need to be someone proven and ready to go.
Some fans think he is because that is where we have forced him to play in the absence of left footed defenders. In reality he is a right footed CB that doesn’t naturally suit LCB.
When Gillesphey plays you’ll see a big difference in balance across the back line with Gillesphey able to distribute and support Edun far better.
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I’d expect we are getting quite far down our list if he does come in.sam3110 said:There's about a dozen strikers I'd rather have than Stockton
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Appleton confirms he'd like one more centre back but can't be greedy, and the current focus is further up the pitch0
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If we are going to play 2 up front, then we need 4 strikers, so I'd like to bring 2 in this window, as you need at least 1 on the bench, even with injuries and suspensions. One "headline" perm, but also a loan backup player.
I don't know if Chem can be sent back, but he looks pretty surplus now, and it would free a space.2 -
Indeed, I think Kanu is more than good enough for 4th choice - but with Leaburn out and Aneke basically not worth planning around being an option we need 2 more in for that to happen.killerandflash said:If we are going to play 2 up front, then we need 4 strikers, so I'd like to bring 2 in this window, as you need at least 1 on the bench, even with injuries and suspensions. One "headline" perm, but also a loan backup player.
I don't know if Chem can be sent back, but he looks pretty surplus now, and it would free a space.1 -
Just one more we truly are in a mess then.1
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Not what he says, he isn’t clear enough but he means one more CB on top of the other signings he wantsSELR_addicks said:One more signing
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He doesn't just perform at the Valley, he was wanted by Bolton and Derby but were both put off by Morecambes high asking price. Probably the best striker in the league in the 21/22 season and if he got his move to Bolton or Derby for 22/23, I think he would have picked up where he left off.fenaddick said:Stockton isn't what we need. Yes he's a big lump but I think people are conned into rating him because he usually performs at The Valley. Technically he's nothing special and he's used to being the big fish which he won't be here
https://youtu.be/Ad-L0AgfMwQ?feature=shared
I can't remember a single striker performing as well as him in recent seasons, links the play, great shooting range, no slouch.
As a punt to see if he could do a job, we could do a lot worse. Much better player than Tedic and we gave him a chance.
It's also a bit of myth that he's a big lump. He plays with the ball at his feet and holds it. Links up the play really well, not the type you lump it long to and he will win it like Aneke, but rather you give him the ball and he'll probably keep it or get a shot off.1
