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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)
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he was definitely mentioned on here and I think people said the club were aware of him. wouldn’t be surprised if they had a hunch he’d be available on the cheap in January so held off, could be why we signed L WatsonScoham said:
Why didn’t we sign him in the summer?Sage said:Bate is better than Watson and we should’ve signed him in the summer when we had the chance. Hopefully, we are interested and he can return back home and kick on in his career and that be with us.0 -
Except he isn'tNabySarr said:
Unfortunately that rules him out as Scott is looking to sign players who don’t want to sign for usButtleJR said:
Club are aware of this. Bate would love to sign for us.MarcusH26 said:https://www.teamtalk.com/leeds-united/ready-to-sell-unwanted-pair-in-january-third-star-switches-agents-force-through-20m-transfer
Leeds willing to listen to offers for Lewis Bate, 6 months to run so could be a target
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Bate is a really tidy footballer, but I'd be surprised if they think he fits the profile Appleton has been talking about.1
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Doubt it - he wanted to come to Charlton in the summer on loan and we took Louis Watson insteadMarcusH26 said:https://www.teamtalk.com/leeds-united/ready-to-sell-unwanted-pair-in-january-third-star-switches-agents-force-through-20m-transfer
Leeds willing to listen to offers for Lewis Bate, 6 months to run so could be a target0 -
That makes no sense tbh - if we had taken him on loan we still could have signed him nowfenaddick said:
he was definitely mentioned on here and I think people said the club were aware of him. wouldn’t be surprised if they had a hunch he’d be available on the cheap in January so held off, could be why we signed L WatsonScoham said:
Why didn’t we sign him in the summer?Sage said:Bate is better than Watson and we should’ve signed him in the summer when we had the chance. Hopefully, we are interested and he can return back home and kick on in his career and that be with us.0 -
Wonder if we’ll send Louie Watson back? Appleton hasn’t seemed to rate him recently.0
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I’m only theorising but if he’d been playing for half a season and playing well then Leeds would probably be wanting a higher fee now. Like I say, just a guessDOUCHER said:
That makes no sense tbh - if we had taken him on loan we still could have signed him nowfenaddick said:
he was definitely mentioned on here and I think people said the club were aware of him. wouldn’t be surprised if they had a hunch he’d be available on the cheap in January so held off, could be why we signed L WatsonScoham said:
Why didn’t we sign him in the summer?Sage said:Bate is better than Watson and we should’ve signed him in the summer when we had the chance. Hopefully, we are interested and he can return back home and kick on in his career and that be with us.0 -
Bate in, Fraser out, then someone in the Sam Field mold please (physically big, more defensive minded)9
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Really wouldn't be bothered if Fraser left. Another one who's no doubt a top earner and not churning out top performances.12
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Agreed. Not without his skills, but he doesn't ever run a game which is what I expect to see once in a while from a top performing creative midfielder. All he's really done, since signing, is confirm why Ipswich were willing to let him leave. His best performance in a Charlton match was when he was playing for MK Dons.Chunes said:Really wouldn't be bothered if Fraser left. Another one who's no doubt a top earner and not churning out top performances.7 -
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My theory is I think we probably went for Watson rather than Bate thinking we’d have more chance of making it a permanent at some point - maybe we have made an offer when he was playing well and it’s been turned down and apples told to concentrate on Fraser and mgrandles insteadfenaddick said:
I’m only theorising but if he’d been playing for half a season and playing well then Leeds would probably be wanting a higher fee now. Like I say, just a guessDOUCHER said:
That makes no sense tbh - if we had taken him on loan we still could have signed him nowfenaddick said:
he was definitely mentioned on here and I think people said the club were aware of him. wouldn’t be surprised if they had a hunch he’d be available on the cheap in January so held off, could be why we signed L WatsonScoham said:
Why didn’t we sign him in the summer?Sage said:Bate is better than Watson and we should’ve signed him in the summer when we had the chance. Hopefully, we are interested and he can return back home and kick on in his career and that be with us.3 -
I’m also told it was to do with wages at the time - seemed strange coz wouldn’t have cost that much more for the loan period but maybe we had one eye on future wages2
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Doesnt make much sense - Instead we signed the player thats cheaper but can't get game time .......DOUCHER said:I’m also told it was to do with wages at the time - seemed strange coz wouldn’t have cost that much more for the loan period but maybe we had one eye on future wages0 -
Some recruitment team eh!billysboots said:
Doesnt make much sense - Instead we signed the player thats cheaper but can't get game time .......DOUCHER said:I’m also told it was to do with wages at the time - seemed strange coz wouldn’t have cost that much more for the loan period but maybe we had one eye on future wages
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11 points off the play offs now and I don't see us catching Bolton anyway so 12 points off Stevenage as a more realistic team to catch I guess.1
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well, the other 2 possibilities as to why we chose Watson over Bate is 1) We thought Watson was better 2) We didn't want to pay the extra £1500 a week for Bate - if its 2) then that's a worry and if its 1) we won't be putting a bid in for Bate now he's up for sale.billysboots said:
Doesnt make much sense - Instead we signed the player thats cheaper but can't get game time .......DOUCHER said:I’m also told it was to do with wages at the time - seemed strange coz wouldn’t have cost that much more for the loan period but maybe we had one eye on future wages0 -
2 games in hand over Stevenage tooAthletico Charlton said:11 points off the play offs now and I don't see us catching Bolton anyway so 12 points of Stevenage as a more realistic team to catch I guess.0 -
Win them both we are still 6 points behind, beat them in the return tie and still 3. I highly doubt we will go on the type of run to catch them and they would have to drop off quite a bit.fenaddick said:
2 games in hand over Stevenage tooAthletico Charlton said:11 points off the play offs now and I don't see us catching Bolton anyway so 12 points of Stevenage as a more realistic team to catch I guess.
The team more likely to do it is Barnsley who we are 7 points behind with the same number of games played. That's why beating them would have been massive.
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all depends on January, not just us but how other teams strengthen/get picked apart. Seems to be sacking season in the Championship too so we could see some play off teams lose managersBraziliance said:
Win them both we are still 6 points behind, beat them in the return tie and still 3. I highly doubt we will go on the type of run to catch them and they would have to drop off quite a bit.fenaddick said:
2 games in hand over Stevenage tooAthletico Charlton said:11 points off the play offs now and I don't see us catching Bolton anyway so 12 points of Stevenage as a more realistic team to catch I guess.
The team more likely to do it is Barnsley who we are 7 points behind with the same number of games played. That's why beating them would have been massive.0 -
Sounds like our hedge fund and private equity holders may have set a ceiling on our debt - which of course would be pretty typical of how that breed operates.Covered End said:
There are no restrictions and rules (other than squad size) that will stop us if the owners choose to fund any excess by way of equity rather than by way of loans.RonnieMoore said:
Wrong again we can afford him but restrictions and rules will stop us …Braziliance said:
Exactly. So if we did sign him, it would be fuck all to do with his age and only because we can't afford him.RonnieMoore said:
Yeah ok …… Bauer wages would blow our FFP.. more likey to do with wages and restrictions in league one …Braziliance said:If we aren't interested in Bauer because of 'age' and then go ahead and sign Caulker. That will tell you everything you need to know about this mob.
If Caulker signs, it's very telling.
Any sums are permitted if they are not adding to the debt.
Surely, you must remember this as i'm confident it has been said countless times.0 -
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Agree. I got LoLs a couple of weeks back when I said this season has gone. It has, I think.Braziliance said:
Win them both we are still 6 points behind, beat them in the return tie and still 3. I highly doubt we will go on the type of run to catch them and they would have to drop off quite a bit.fenaddick said:
2 games in hand over Stevenage tooAthletico Charlton said:11 points off the play offs now and I don't see us catching Bolton anyway so 12 points of Stevenage as a more realistic team to catch I guess.
The team more likely to do it is Barnsley who we are 7 points behind with the same number of games played. That's why beating them would have been massive.We’re too far behind without a settled team and style of play that would lead to a swaggering run - and it also relies on too many teams slipping up.Disgraceful that this club will bob around AGAIN in the third division but it’s about building for next season now and getting an identity to take into it.
And that’s why this transfer window is bigger than I think we realise.
It’s a big part of that run up to next season. Bed players in now and start the momentum into 2024/25, when we MUST get out of League 1.5 -
To be fair, the entire top six being on near enough 2 points per game or more at this stage of the season is mad and likely not sustainable.
Stop trying to catch teams and focus on an end of season points target instead. 75 has been enough for top six MOST seasons, if it’s not this season then that’s bad luck.
It’s still a big hill to climb from where we are but it’s easier on the psyche than thinking we’re 10+ points behind an ever increasing target.4 -
I’d agree if the league wasn’t so weak this year. Think we’re in for some recordsCallumcafc said:To be fair, the entire top six being on near enough 2 points per game or more at this stage of the season is mad and likely not sustainable.
Stop trying to catch teams and focus on an end of season points target instead. 75 has been enough for top six MOST seasons, if it’s not this season then that’s bad luck.
It’s still a big hill to climb from where we are but it’s easier on the psyche than thinking we’re 10+ points behind an ever increasing target.3 -
Also add in the fact that 2 teams got point deductions and another team didnt score a single goal in their first 11 matches.fenaddick said:
I’d agree if the league wasn’t so weak this year. Think we’re in for some recordsCallumcafc said:To be fair, the entire top six being on near enough 2 points per game or more at this stage of the season is mad and likely not sustainable.
Stop trying to catch teams and focus on an end of season points target instead. 75 has been enough for top six MOST seasons, if it’s not this season then that’s bad luck.
It’s still a big hill to climb from where we are but it’s easier on the psyche than thinking we’re 10+ points behind an ever increasing target.1 -
This time last season, 28 points off 20 games (us right now) would’ve been enough to be three points outside the playoffs.And this season was meant to be easier…7
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If you ignore the other teams games in hands at that point, even then, the top6 at the time remained the same by the end of the season. It's mid-table form no matter how you look at it.Callumcafc said:This time last season, 28 points off 20 games (us right now) would’ve been enough to be three points outside the playoffs.And this season was meant to be easier…
This season is easier, we just didn't capitalise. Next season will probably be harder.
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Fraser is far from perfect but think he gets a bit of a hard time on here. He will always show for the ball and has a decent creative spark. He needs to do it more often but he’s not a bad player.9
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I think it's time to stop thinking about this window in the context of this season and think longer term (plus some good loans).
We want the kind of window that we look back at this time next year and say "some really important building blocks for a genuine promotion push were put in place then".4 -
Bate would be a good signing of intent, and what you want, young, hungry, point to prove, and potential resale value.9
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Not a bad player I agree. But, as you say, he doesn’t do it enough and there’s little sign he’s suddenly going to start doing it more often. He’s a classic mid table player and we need to move beyond his ilk if we’re going to progress.Pelling1993 said:Fraser is far from perfect but think he gets a bit of a hard time on here. He will always show for the ball and has a decent creative spark. He needs to do it more often but he’s not a bad player.3
