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North Macedonia vs England - KO @ 7:45pm (C4) - Living in a Dion Dublin World!!
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Easy part of being a fan... We can call for things to happen, complain when we're not listened to, but we dont have to suffer the consequences when its tried, and failsCallumcafc said:KBslittlesis said:
Just like he was against Malta.Redvalleyeast said:Alexander arnold has been pony tonight
Its like he’s playing out of position or something.
Fans have been begging for him to play in midfield for a long time. He's admittedly got a good pass on him but that doesn't make a good midfielder.0 -
Not by me there ain’tForeverAddickted said:
Been endless calls for Southgate to play him there thoughKBslittlesis said:
Just like he was against Malta.Redvalleyeast said:Alexander arnold has been pony tonight
Its like he’s playing out of position or something.1 -
Bellingham obviously.SELR_addicks said:
Who's the second world class player not named Kane?Manic_mania said:
I think you are massively overestimating our squad calling it a "golden generation"AndyG said:How to turn a truely golden generation into a shite squad of negativity whatever the result of any qualifiers whatever our fifa world ranking the minute we play a decent team in a game that matters Southgate will stifle any chance we have end of
we have two world class players and potentially two others - Trent and Sako. The rest are mid table premier league. The defence is arguably lower than that centrally.
Saka is England's second best player and is clearly world class at this point.
Depending on people's definition of world class though i do think we have others.0 -
Wasnt suggesting it from anyone on here.KBslittlesis said:
Not by me there ain’tForeverAddickted said:
Been endless calls for Southgate to play him there thoughKBslittlesis said:
Just like he was against Malta.Redvalleyeast said:Alexander arnold has been pony tonight
Its like he’s playing out of position or something.
More the wider Footballing world.1 -
Eejits, the lot of em 🤣ForeverAddickted said:
Wasnt suggesting it from anyone on here.KBslittlesis said:
Not by me there ain’tForeverAddickted said:
Been endless calls for Southgate to play him there thoughKBslittlesis said:
Just like he was against Malta.Redvalleyeast said:Alexander arnold has been pony tonight
Its like he’s playing out of position or something.
More the wider Footballing world.1 -
Gone down as an Own Goal...ForeverAddickted said:
Can see them going to the Court of Arbitration if their boy doesnt get the recognition.Algarveaddick said:Mr & Mrs Og’s boy in there again.If Kane gets that goal, he leads 63-60. But if it is an own goal, it's 62-61 and even more intriguingly poised.
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They'll be dancing on the streets of his home town tonight.0 -
I do think this lineup hasn't suited him. Alexander-Arnold is good when you need to probe about the place with fast players who want to stretch play and a striker who drops in to create space behind him. Watkins plays on the shoulder of the last defender and Grealish, Foden and Lewis want to shift the ball quickly in tight spaces with fast rotating triangles. Bit of a mismatch of personnel, he'd look much better with Saka, Kane and Rashford/Sterling I reckon, but he should still be doing more tonight than he hasCallumcafc said:Garrymanilow said:
He has, play has looked much slicker when it hasn't gone through himRedvalleyeast said:Alexander arnold has been pony tonight
Hopefully it'll put the arguments of the armchair managers that he'd be a great midfielder to bed.
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who else in your mind mate?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Bellingham obviously.SELR_addicks said:
Who's the second world class player not named Kane?Manic_mania said:
I think you are massively overestimating our squad calling it a "golden generation"AndyG said:How to turn a truely golden generation into a shite squad of negativity whatever the result of any qualifiers whatever our fifa world ranking the minute we play a decent team in a game that matters Southgate will stifle any chance we have end of
we have two world class players and potentially two others - Trent and Sako. The rest are mid table premier league. The defence is arguably lower than that centrally.
Saka is England's second best player and is clearly world class at this point.
Depending on people's definition of world class though i do think we have others.
also apologies all for mispelling Saka.0 -
Would imagine Foden and Walker. Perhaps Rice too if we're judging potential.Manic_mania said:
who else in your mind mate?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Bellingham obviously.SELR_addicks said:
Who's the second world class player not named Kane?Manic_mania said:
I think you are massively overestimating our squad calling it a "golden generation"AndyG said:How to turn a truely golden generation into a shite squad of negativity whatever the result of any qualifiers whatever our fifa world ranking the minute we play a decent team in a game that matters Southgate will stifle any chance we have end of
we have two world class players and potentially two others - Trent and Sako. The rest are mid table premier league. The defence is arguably lower than that centrally.
Saka is England's second best player and is clearly world class at this point.
Depending on people's definition of world class though i do think we have others.
also apologies all for mispelling Saka.
Could see an argument for both.1 -
Foden and Rice have the potential to be up thereManic_mania said:
who else in your mind mate?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Bellingham obviously.SELR_addicks said:
Who's the second world class player not named Kane?Manic_mania said:
I think you are massively overestimating our squad calling it a "golden generation"AndyG said:How to turn a truely golden generation into a shite squad of negativity whatever the result of any qualifiers whatever our fifa world ranking the minute we play a decent team in a game that matters Southgate will stifle any chance we have end of
we have two world class players and potentially two others - Trent and Sako. The rest are mid table premier league. The defence is arguably lower than that centrally.
Saka is England's second best player and is clearly world class at this point.
Depending on people's definition of world class though i do think we have others.
also apologies all for mispelling Saka.
Rico Lewis in the future0 -
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I have to agree with Dion on that one. Saka has done sod all wrong there.2
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This ref is genuinely off his tits. Can't remember a worse performance
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I thought Klopp played Trent as a midfielder nowadays but I don't really follow the PL so am probably wrong.2
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Not watched all of it, but Kyle Walker has been awful1
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Standard of refereeing in this game has been abysmal3
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Saka poor too0
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Agreed. Mind you, Sakas done sod all tonight as a wholeAlgarveaddick said:I have to agree with Dion on that one. Saka has done sod all wrong there.0 -
The North Macedonian’s making the VAR team welcome
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Been a difficult game for Saka given how defensively Macedonia have been when we attack... They've wisely allowed no space for us to get in behind0
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I will be amazed if this game doesn't end with Lewis getting a red for a minor display of dissent or frustration. Ref is having far too much fun getting his time to miss the opportunity
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I tell you what, getting some of the best ref's from other countries across Europe will massively improve the quality of reffing in our country
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This ref is beyond shit. Second england game in a row where the official has been shocking.5
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What’s this trying to walk the ball snails pace bollocks I have seen since I’ve come home from work?
I just fear the set up and mentality is all too safey safe. FFS Gareth you have a squad up there with anyone in world football! Get them playing bravely and aggressively1 -
Backwards and upwards0
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Well for me 'world class' means one of the best in the world in their position, so aside from Kane, Bellingham and Saka i'd add Rice, Stones and Walker.Manic_mania said:
who else in your mind mate?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Bellingham obviously.SELR_addicks said:
Who's the second world class player not named Kane?Manic_mania said:
I think you are massively overestimating our squad calling it a "golden generation"AndyG said:How to turn a truely golden generation into a shite squad of negativity whatever the result of any qualifiers whatever our fifa world ranking the minute we play a decent team in a game that matters Southgate will stifle any chance we have end of
we have two world class players and potentially two others - Trent and Sako. The rest are mid table premier league. The defence is arguably lower than that centrally.
Saka is England's second best player and is clearly world class at this point.
Depending on people's definition of world class though i do think we have others.
also apologies all for mispelling Saka.
You could also add Trent but he isn't playing right back for England.1 -
People been crying out for Slovakian refs yes. Definitely.SporadicAddick said:I tell you what, getting some of the best ref's from other countries across Europe will massively improve the quality of reffing in our country1 -
I'm gonna say I think when you talk about world class - there isn't many for any individual countries - I understand the point about Saka, but for the others, well I think world class has a different meaning to me.
I think the genuine "world class players" in my mind is in single figures that are playing today. So I guess that is whwre the difference is in my opinion.1 -
Don't England have any natural wingers? Players that can beat a defender on the outside ?0
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Opinions are like arseholes - everyone's got one.
I've never understood the hype about Saka.
I keep watching hoping to get it, but I never do.1 -
Off night tonight, but think he's an exceptional player. Think.the overall performance tonight has been dismal up until now, regardless of the refAFKABartram said:Not watched all of it, but Kyle Walker has been awful
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