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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic vs Lincoln City: Tuesday 13th February 2024 | KO 19:45
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aliwibble said:
Think you've been wooshed here @msomertonmsomerton said:
Never judge how good an opposistion player just because he played well against, and even less so for strikersj ust because they scored.Henry Irving said:What a player and what a goal from their number 7.
Anyone catch his name?
Sort of talent we should be signing before he goes to the premier league.
Not a win and we still shot ourselves in the foot but we didn't lose, we kept it simple and cleared it long most of the time and we finished stronger and on the front foot.
Great to see Chuks back, he means the opposition have something to worry about.
But as important was Ladapo scoring. He also looked a handful and scored a good goal.
Glad to see a bit of fight in the team when it kicked off 2nd half. Ref was terrible
May didn't look happy but he'd been rowing with NJ so that might have been the reason.
We still lack creativity but how to fit Coventry or Fiorini into that side and not lose the fighting side of the game?
It is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end but it might be the end of the beginning.
Hackett's one of our youth products who ended up going elsewhere, so I assume this is what Henry was getting at.
Did anyone spot Henry celebrating when his prodigal son returned to the valley ? It was a clinical finish by Hackett-Fairchild but over the 112 minutes our defence coped well the longer the game went on. Jones had his best game and Reg will continue to improve. We nearly had 3 CB's all play well at the same time but it was Thomas's turn to be under par.
Those of us who like our strikers to hunt in pairs were finally rewarded when Ladapo hit a crisp shot within touching distance from Chuks and thankfully ignored Aneke's shout of leave it.
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We didn't get a lot of points before he was injured!DubaiCAFC said:
100% on Hector.. Those that don't rate him we have missed him, we have hardly got a point since he got injured.oohaahmortimer said:So little football guile or craft , sooo many limited footballers who are a bit athletic
i look at players and think how’s that ball at their feet are they in tune with it , can they ping it
well Bakinson is pony and I could see that from day one
Kanu is too raw but can run a lot
I’m a Ladapo fan and he will play as big a part as Chuks who are the two who will hopefully help us survive
May is out of sorts and needs a break to find his mojo back from the bench.FairPlay to T Watson massive improvement to reasonable which got him MOTM from the lounges .
i want Hector back (for Leuth) he’s a leader and I feel more comfortable with him there much better from Jones as well
we need guile and creativity give L Watson more of a chance because there was zilch creativity before the charge from Chucks and Ladapo
that was still pony Lincoln were going through the motions with a gritty northern attitude and had a fella up front who probably plays for Hull KR or Widnes every other week , size of that Cnut .
im sitting on the fence with relegation it’s a genuine 50% job for me which is the worst in our League One history .
blackwall tunnel usual wank with fuckwit my time is more important than yours cnuts trying to push in at the end as you turn off the A13 towards it
petrol head rabbits too much and was pushed in to the back of the car for the journey home , boffin just pretends to be asleep to ignore my ranting .
fell asleep on sofa with our new smelly Cnut rescue dog(Maltese terrier allegedly) called “Alan’ after the great man himself , mrs chose the name , I was in and out of a coma and I had Nathan jones in my ear with his interview for 2 hours on a loop ffs don’t know what he said but that accent doesn’t work for me .
couldnt even get in my own bed cos Peter Kay had been throwing up and shitting himself(he didn’t go to game) a bit like me but mine was metaphorically at the game so I’m in his bed and now getting rid of the 3 penguins and half a dozen choccie digestives I needed to calm down after the game
petrol head tried to push for Bolton away , fuck that you Cnut go and study or some shit We’ll watch on the feed
But I totally agree, he has been missed. And Ness seems to have disappeared.1 -
Another game of two half's
Wasn't the best of performances but at least we showed some fight in the second half hopefully we can take this into our next game from the off
Would have loved a win but happy enough with the draw & to be honest it's more then I thought we would get1 -
we needed 3 points, but at least 1 point is a start0
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It's hard to judge a players abilities when their confidence is shot. Loan players who arrive having been fringe players for their parent clubs are unlikely to be brimming with it. The weaknesses seen by their parent clubs get more cruelly exposed when thrust into a struggling unstable team to play regularly and produce consistent performances. Poor recruitment of our core players has led to greater dependency on the loans brought in and too many get found wanting.
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If there is an out of contract centre forward who is a physical bugger, doesn't have to be a prolific goalscorer, go and get him. Without Chuks this side won't make it and we need someone to rough up the defenders in this league. Once again poor recruitment by Scott, here we are thinking that Lapado can be that hold up centre forward and in his interview last night he clearly states that's not what he does.0
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Based on the highlights alone you can see Bakinson isn’t up to it. Let’s his man turn inside and get a cross away for the first goal. Should have played Kanu in early on instead of speculatively shooting. I expect he’s just holding a place for Camara until he’s fully fit.
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More than we are getting now.Bangkokaddick said:
We didn't get a lot of points before he was injured!DubaiCAFC said:
100% on Hector.. Those that don't rate him we have missed him, we have hardly got a point since he got injured.oohaahmortimer said:So little football guile or craft , sooo many limited footballers who are a bit athletic
i look at players and think how’s that ball at their feet are they in tune with it , can they ping it
well Bakinson is pony and I could see that from day one
Kanu is too raw but can run a lot
I’m a Ladapo fan and he will play as big a part as Chuks who are the two who will hopefully help us survive
May is out of sorts and needs a break to find his mojo back from the bench.FairPlay to T Watson massive improvement to reasonable which got him MOTM from the lounges .
i want Hector back (for Leuth) he’s a leader and I feel more comfortable with him there much better from Jones as well
we need guile and creativity give L Watson more of a chance because there was zilch creativity before the charge from Chucks and Ladapo
that was still pony Lincoln were going through the motions with a gritty northern attitude and had a fella up front who probably plays for Hull KR or Widnes every other week , size of that Cnut .
im sitting on the fence with relegation it’s a genuine 50% job for me which is the worst in our League One history .
blackwall tunnel usual wank with fuckwit my time is more important than yours cnuts trying to push in at the end as you turn off the A13 towards it
petrol head rabbits too much and was pushed in to the back of the car for the journey home , boffin just pretends to be asleep to ignore my ranting .
fell asleep on sofa with our new smelly Cnut rescue dog(Maltese terrier allegedly) called “Alan’ after the great man himself , mrs chose the name , I was in and out of a coma and I had Nathan jones in my ear with his interview for 2 hours on a loop ffs don’t know what he said but that accent doesn’t work for me .
couldnt even get in my own bed cos Peter Kay had been throwing up and shitting himself(he didn’t go to game) a bit like me but mine was metaphorically at the game so I’m in his bed and now getting rid of the 3 penguins and half a dozen choccie digestives I needed to calm down after the game
petrol head tried to push for Bolton away , fuck that you Cnut go and study or some shit We’ll watch on the feed
But I totally agree, he has been missed. And Ness seems to have disappeared.0 -
Awful first half, hate the shape every manager seems to continue with.
100% better once chucks and co came on.
Dont think we will avoid relegation unless we get Chucks and co playing at least 60 minutes a game. Would also like to see the 532 system abandoned now!0 - Sponsored links:
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Very good 2nd half and unlucky not to win
system is killing us, nothing out wide - wing backs are the most important players in this system and we had a RB at LWB - at least play the left footed player (Edun) there, both are crap so it wouldn’t have made a difference
Anderson is not ready, should be nowhere near that midfield
they were terrified of Chuks when he came on
pleased for Ladapo, great strike.Thought May and Kanu absolutely ran their nuts off
Gonna Need more and imperative we finally keep these players fit for a run of games
very impressed with NJ’s post match interview2 -
Read a few ramdom posts, but mostly PWR, and I am sure somewhere someone else has pointed this out to the "oh we created no chances" brigade. We had five shots on target to their one. Their one coming from our error (as always).
Still looking more likely to go down than stay up, but try and be honest rather than pretend things have not happened if they don't suit the narrative you wish to persue.3 -
One point would be a bonus from our next three matches and the league table after those matches I don’t want to think about.se9addick said:I mean it was better than losing again…just.
That league table is looking pretty frightening though and I’m not sure what we put in tonight will be enough for even a point in our next three matches.1 -
Did they not hit the post as well?Algarveaddick said:Read a few ramdom posts, but mostly PWR, and I am sure somewhere someone else has pointed this out to the "oh we created no chances" brigade. We had five shots on target to their one. Their one coming from our error (as always).
Still looking more likely to go down than stay up, but try and be honest rather than pretend things have not happened if they don't suit the narrative you wish to persue.3 -
We're guaranteed 3 points against Portsmouth so won't be too bad.0
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Very lucky not to get a second yellow. Thomas told him to calm it down but he just laughed.Smithy said:
Arguably should have been sent off and gave the ball away plenty of timesStonewallpenalty19 said:Surprised more hasn't been said on Camara. Looked a class above when he came on.
Overall, we have a lot of players who look ok coming on as sub but struggle when they start.2 -
Inevitable given the table and our next three fixtures that we will drop into the bottom four. My hope for those three fixtures is that we don't get a confidence-destroying battering, build on the second half performance last night and perhaps scrape a point.March and April, as has been said, will be a run of vital games. 50 points should see us safe, which means 18 from our last 11 games, assuming we get none from the next three. 5 wins, 3 draws, 3 defeats. If we cant do that then going down is deserved. I remain optimistic, but it will get worse before it gets better.0
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Better performance but still not good enough. If N Jones keeps us in this division it will be greatest achievement yet.sadly I don’t think that will be the case. Appleton was left in charge too long by those clowns upstairs when everyone could see it was never going to work. League 2 brings many many problems, players leaving, management leaving, lower crowds and less revenue into the club by fans and commercially a big loss. League 2 will be a disaster but it’s the owners to blame buying bang average players. There will be no club in League 2 and getting promotion out of league 2 if we did would not be something to celebrate. It’s our 10th year in league 1 and we have achieved nothing.Thank you Charlton for the previous years when we were a top force in the premiership but sadly the demise of our club will probably be decided in the next month. If there relegated I will watch my local team at least they have guts and try for the club. 20 years a season ticket holder it pains me to say this.1
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At no point did Lincoln dominate us.Little in it first half bar a mistake that gifted a goal.Tempo and intensity increased second half.Only one team was gonna win it!
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Id say definitely the instruction because of the lack of outlets out wide. The CBs did lots of the usual sideways stuff but largely ignored Watson because they knew he would just check back onto his right foot and give the ball straight back to them. Then they would bang it forward. It was the right thing to do when Chuks came on and it pushed Lincoln back.Dizzle said:
I’m not suggesting Thomas was useless. Just that at times he didn’t seem comfortable on the ball or to bring it under control. There were some occasions where he had time to bring it under control but instead just hoofed it back up into the air aimlessly. All of the CB’s seemed to pump it long and that may have been the instruction, it just felt like Thomas was the least comfortable with that. Just my observation.MuttleyCAFC said:
I think our centre halves were told to get it forwards much quicker for obvious reasons. Thomas still put in a great ball for Bakisnson to head to Kanu in the first half.Dizzle said:Thomas did not look comfortable on the ball at all. Jones much better and REG looks fairly comfortable, albeit Lincoln didn’t really test too much. First half I thought Dobson didn’t quite seem himself, a few mistakes. Second half much better. I liked Ramsay, more time with the squad and he will be a good attacking right back hopefully.
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Sat a couple of rows back from the dugout last night. Jones was furious with Alfie may a couple of times & eventually subbed him.
These players won't get an easy ride under Jones & that's a good thing.22 -
The difference Chuks presence makes, both in galvanising his team mates and frightening the opposition was so stark.
We are weak and flaccid without him.
Whether we stay up or not may rest his fitness and availability in the run in.
On a side note, I found myself really irked by Ladapo's reaction to his brilliant goal.
His team mates were thrilled for him, the crowd were delighted - what is your fcuking problem?
Engage the crowd and they will cheer you through brick walls.
Really, if you don't want to be here, just fcuk off6 -
Cheltenham play Port Vale on Saturday, then Vale have Reading away on Tuesday and Lincoln at home on the Saturday.IdleHans said:Inevitable given the table and our next three fixtures that we will drop into the bottom four. My hope for those three fixtures is that we don't get a confidence-destroying battering, build on the second half performance last night and perhaps scrape a point.March and April, as has been said, will be a run of vital games. 50 points should see us safe, which means 18 from our last 11 games, assuming we get none from the next three. 5 wins, 3 draws, 3 defeats. If we cant do that then going down is deserved. I remain optimistic, but it will get worse before it gets better.0 -
Gonna get pelters for this but if I were Jones I'd get Conor Wickham on a short term deal, he's a free agent and would provide an insurance should we lose Chuks3
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Aneke and Camera back - we have nothing offensively other than Kanu’s workrate, Camara looks the only midfielder who can advance on and Chuks just terrifies tired defences.Jones - 2nd game back in and another solid display
Ramsey - Decent debut, definitely looks like there might be something there
Attitude - Can’t fault the effort and if we are to stay up we need that fight desperately as it’s been lacking
Ladapo goal - He’s been really disappointing and taken longer to get up to speed than hoped, but hopefully a good strike will kick start him.
Negatives
Conceding goals - Even when a team barely attacks we still find a way to concede goals.
no attacking width - We are trying to push on full backs as wing backs but we are just not getting enough width going forwards and we haven’t got the players in the squad to change that, so we are stuck with this formation
no creativity- CBT provided this and the attacking width. Campbell is probably the only one who could provide that but he has been well off his game this season.May - Said it at weekend, but it feels like he’s lost his way. Feels a long time since he was a goal threat, now just seems to moaning and getting frustrated a lot. He should be an asset to this team but he’s not at present. Play him deeper? I really don’t know.
I think whatever happens now till the end of the season is not going to be pretty. We look a limited team so I think it’s going to be high energy, aggression, win your duals and get the ball forward high and quickly hoping someone like Chuks can create a noise in the box. Whether we’ve the players to play that way effectively, I’m not sure.Still a lot of points to play for and not terminal yet, but not getting 3 against a mid table team happy to just sit back and invite us on feels a wasted opportunity15 -
As much as I hate it, fair play to Lincoln for some game management mastery.We scored on 73, by the time they went down injured, argued, got a corner etc, we didn’t actually end up with any possession until 81 mins. They’d somehow managed to disrupt for 8 mins and absolutely killed any momentum we may have got after scoring.23
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Without turning this into another Dobson thread, I'm not meaning to dig him out. I like him, I'm very happy he stayed and he's my first name on the team sheet. I just don't think his passing is very good.Off_it said:
With respect, that's not right.Croydon said:
Matter of opinions but he played some fucking dreadful balls across the middle that nearly cost us, and it was his poor clearance that led to the goal.We laud him because he works his bollocks off but his passing ability is really poor.ValleyGary said:
I thought Dobson looked like a good player playing with shitCroydon said:Whole midfield was poor I thought. Anderson gets a pass as he's young and tried hard but his passong was sloppy.
Games like that really highlight how limited Dobson is imo.
Less said about Bakinson the better. He's getting worse each game.
I just find it amazing that we have had however many shocking and ineffectual midfielders over the past few years, but people persist in digging the one bloke who has been consistently good in that period.
Baffling. Utterly baffling.
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There’s a reason why they are unbeaten since NYD. They should have probably got beaten yesterday, but they grounded out a point. Something we haven’t been doing throughout the whole season.AFKABartram said:As much as I hate it, fair play to Lincoln for some game management mastery.We scored on 73, by the time they went down injured, argued, got a corner etc, we didn’t actually end up with any possession until 81 mins. They’d somehow managed to disrupt for 8 mins and absolutely killed any momentum we may have got after scoring.1 -
We'll win our first 4 in MarchCallumcafc said:Saying we’re down and a point wasn’t enough tonight when there’s still 14 games left is quite the position to take.
Based off the way the team dug deep and almost found a winner at the end, we’ll get enough points between now and May to be quite comfortable.
And I haven’t felt this confident about that in a little while.1 -
as I said in the preview, they are a scrappy little(ish) club/team, very difficult to play against and give little away .. we need to take heed and if not copy, then learn (very quickly) how to survive at this mucky levelAFKABartram said:As much as I hate it, fair play to Lincoln for some game management mastery.We scored on 73, by the time they went down injured, argued, got a corner etc, we didn’t actually end up with any possession until 81 mins. They’d somehow managed to disrupt for 8 mins and absolutely killed any momentum we may have got after scoring.1
