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New State-of-the-art Pitch at The Valley

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  • Sheepie1985
    Sheepie1985 Posts: 480
    edited January 4
    What's the chances of the game being called off for a frozen pitch today? Slim? (Genuine question!)
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Sheepie1985 said:
    What's the chances of the game being called off for a frozen pitch today? Slim? (Genuine question!)
    Non existent I'd say
  • Sheepie1985
    Sheepie1985 Posts: 480
    Leuth said:
    Sheepie1985 said:
    What's the chances of the game being called off for a frozen pitch today? Slim? (Genuine question!)
    Non existent I'd say
    Thanks!
  • Sheepie1985
    Sheepie1985 Posts: 480
    Thought it was funny when TC scored that he couldn't slide on the pitch, the surface is that bad in that area that he ended up going straight on his face ha
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited January 4
    If we avoid playing any games on the pitch until the first team's next home game, we have 2 full weeks. Is this long enough to plant new seeds or is this futile? Pretty sure it needs a lot longer.
  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,063
    Noticeable today were the circles where the sprinklers pop up. Almost looked like dead grass around them from a distance. That doesn't smack of overuse, just something very wrong with the grass taking.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
    The issues with the pitch clearly aren't just down to normal wear and tear, otherwise the usual places would be worse around the centre circle and penalty areas. And they're not.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,032
    The pitch needs looking at, the floodlights as well, the food and drink.   There are so many things it is bordering on laughable.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,560
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    The pitch needs looking at, the floodlights as well, the food and drink.   There are so many things it is bordering on laughable.
    Maintenance of everything seems to have taken a back seat.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,617
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    If we avoid playing any games on the pitch until the first team's next home game, we have 2 full weeks. Is this long enough to plant new seeds or is this futile? Pretty sure it needs a lot longer.
    Grass will only grow if the temperature is above 4C.
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    guinnessaddick said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    If we avoid playing any games on the pitch until the first team's next home game, we have 2 full weeks. Is this long enough to plant new seeds or is this futile? Pretty sure it needs a lot longer.
    Grass will only grow if the temperature is above 4C.
    Clubs routinely use heaters and lamps on their pitches.

    AllHailTheHen said:
    Noticeable today were the circles where the sprinklers pop up. Almost looked like dead grass around them from a distance. That doesn't smack of overuse, just something very wrong with the grass taking.
    We can't be the first team to have had issues with one of these pitches in its first year, there's got to be some recommended work that can be done
  • northstandsteve
    northstandsteve Posts: 14,328
    The bloody floodlights are embarrassing, where we sit well actually stand by the corner flag and tunnel is a lot darker 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Isn't our pitch getting double the football played on it? I wonder if maybe it should have had more than a summer before being used for both the Men and Women 
    The same amount that Leyton Orient is getting and they appear to have none of the issues we are having
    Was their pitch re-laid in the summer?
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,032
    LargeAddick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    The pitch needs looking at, the floodlights as well, the food and drink.   There are so many things it is bordering on laughable.
    Maintenance of everything seems to have taken a back seat.

    Including the buying of players probably.....we'll soon find out.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,032
    Dazzler21 said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Isn't our pitch getting double the football played on it? I wonder if maybe it should have had more than a summer before being used for both the Men and Women 
    The same amount that Leyton Orient is getting and they appear to have none of the issues we are having
    Was their pitch re-laid in the summer?
    Bromley v Newport this season, they have taken up their 3g and replaced it with this.



  • Amos on the wing
    Amos on the wing Posts: 1,802
    Dazzler21 said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Isn't our pitch getting double the football played on it? I wonder if maybe it should have had more than a summer before being used for both the Men and Women 
    The same amount that Leyton Orient is getting and they appear to have none of the issues we are having
    Was their pitch re-laid in the summer?
    No.Leyton Orient laid the same hybrid-stitched Desso pitch in June 2023 using another company called Chappelow Sports Turf company based in Yorkshire.

    They had no issues last season and still the same quality this season. 
  • Peter_G
    Peter_G Posts: 839
    northstandsteve said:
    The bloody floodlights are embarrassing, where we sit well actually stand by the corner flag and tunnel is a lot darker.
    From the East Stand, that corner by the players entrance looks very gloomy. Ridiculous that out of a cluster of 12 lights only 2 are working.
  • Sheepie1985
    Sheepie1985 Posts: 480
    northstandsteve said:
    The bloody floodlights are embarrassing, where we sit well actually stand by the corner flag and tunnel is a lot darker 
    Ha you're right near me, we were saying the exact same thing yesterday that there's a noticeable dark spot in the corner from the floods being out. The ground is a little bit concerning at the moment...
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I agree that the floodlighting in the players tunnel corner needs sorting.
    Things like that, functioning turnstiles, flushing toilets and so on should all be fixed before the next home game.
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,737
    Who is responsible for the general upkeep of the stadium? We are after all tenants.

    If you are renting a house and the electrics and plumbing aren't right then the landlord sorts it out. If Roland is responsible for these things (toilets, floodlights etc) then I assume there is little to no chance of them being fixed.
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  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
    Clem_Snide said:
    Who is responsible for the general upkeep of the stadium? We are after all tenants.

    If you are renting a house and the electrics and plumbing aren't right then the landlord sorts it out. If Roland is responsible for these things (toilets, floodlights etc) then I assume there is little to no chance of them being fixed.
    Big difference between residential and commercial leases. The club are almost certainly responsible for this type of cost.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    The club have responsibility
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited January 5
    Off_it said:
    Clem_Snide said:
    Who is responsible for the general upkeep of the stadium? We are after all tenants.

    If you are renting a house and the electrics and plumbing aren't right then the landlord sorts it out. If Roland is responsible for these things (toilets, floodlights etc) then I assume there is little to no chance of them being fixed.
    Big difference between residential and commercial leases. The club are almost certainly responsible for this type of cost.
    Not even in doubt.

    Why do the players continue to warm up along the obviously worn channels in front of the AC Stand? I’m not saying this is the cause of them but surely you would switch sides?
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,342
    Airman Brown said:
    Off_it said:
    Clem_Snide said:
    Who is responsible for the general upkeep of the stadium? We are after all tenants.

    If you are renting a house and the electrics and plumbing aren't right then the landlord sorts it out. If Roland is responsible for these things (toilets, floodlights etc) then I assume there is little to no chance of them being fixed.
    Big difference between residential and commercial leases. The club are almost certainly responsible for this type of cost.
    Not even in doubt.

    Why do the players continue to warm up along the obviously worn channels in front of the AC Stand? I’m not saying this is the cause of them but surely you would switch sides?
    In the same way, why do the keepers warm.up in the same spot, in front of block f Lower Covered End, with that cutting up
  • YTS1978
    YTS1978 Posts: 1,701
    Off_it said:
    Clem_Snide said:
    Who is responsible for the general upkeep of the stadium? We are after all tenants.

    If you are renting a house and the electrics and plumbing aren't right then the landlord sorts it out. If Roland is responsible for these things (toilets, floodlights etc) then I assume there is little to no chance of them being fixed.
    Big difference between residential and commercial leases. The club are almost certainly responsible for this type of cost.
    Good point, but who's responsible for the upkeep/maintenance of those flags on the roof of the ACS? Bloody state they are. Sort it out!!!!
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited January 5
    There's undoubtedly something wrong, but what? It seemed like our pitch change started later into summer than would be ideal, then the weather we've had since the season begun hasn't exactly been the best. 

    My bet is the grass hadn't taken in time for the season start, then the poor weather has worsened the situation with it cutting up more.

    If it has been done last summer, who knows maybe it'd be perfect. Using teams who had their pitches done last season for comparison isn't ideal as they've had a full year of being installed. 

    I'm not saying it isn't shit, or defending anyone, but I do have questions as to whether anyone is at fault or it's simply shit luck. Being an Addick, it's more likely the latter in my mind. 
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,502
    Dazzler21 said:
    There's undoubtedly something wrong, but what? It seemed like our pitch change started later into summer than would be ideal, then the weather we've had since the season begun hasn't exactly been the best. 

    My bet is the grass hadn't taken in time for the season start, then the poor weather has worsened the situation with it cutting up more.

    If it has been done last summer, who knows maybe it'd be perfect. Using teams who had their pitches done last season for comparison isn't ideal as they've had a full year of being installed. 

    I'm not saying it isn't shit, or defending anyone, but I do have questions as to whether anyone is at fault or it's simply shit luck. Being an Addick, it's more likely the latter in my mind. 
    Agree, it might well be bad luck. The club just needs to give supporters an update. It wouldn't take much. 
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,699
    Airman Brown said:
    Off_it said:
    Clem_Snide said:
    Who is responsible for the general upkeep of the stadium? We are after all tenants.

    If you are renting a house and the electrics and plumbing aren't right then the landlord sorts it out. If Roland is responsible for these things (toilets, floodlights etc) then I assume there is little to no chance of them being fixed.
    Big difference between residential and commercial leases. The club are almost certainly responsible for this type of cost.
    Not even in doubt.

    Why do the players continue to warm up along the obviously worn channels in front of the AC Stand? I’m not saying this is the cause of them but surely you would switch sides?
    It’s too dark.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Clem_Snide said:
    Who is responsible for the general upkeep of the stadium? We are after all tenants.

    If you are renting a house and the electrics and plumbing aren't right then the landlord sorts it out. If Roland is responsible for these things (toilets, floodlights etc) then I assume there is little to no chance of them being fixed.
    100% the club, not the landlord 
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,619
    Anyone else notice pre match on Saturday about half a dozen chaps on the pitch standing in a loose huddle, holding their garden forks presumably and seeming to just be passing the time of day between themselves ?. I don’t have much of a real clue as to why they go on the pitch but naively I’ve always thought it was to wander around the pitch looking for patches to stick their forks into the ground, not to stand there and have a chat. 

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