Attention: Please take a moment to consider our terms and conditions before posting.
Charlton Summer Transfer Rumours 2024
Comments
-
Dock Green...🤦♂️Chunes said:Where's Dixon going to play?20 -
There wasn’t. He was getting fit with us and fulfilling a role in training and friendliest for NJ but was never likely to sign or join as a coachShootersHillGuru said:
I think there was more to it than that.fenaddick said:
Don't think he was ever going to sign for us. Just making up the numbers for pre-seasonmart77 said:
Hylton?ShootersHillGuru said:
Wasn’t Dixonmart77 said:Is there any word on the trialist who scored for the U21’s the other day? Was it Dixon?3 -
I've gone from the start of the season where I wanted a new No1 to come straight in, as Mannion was clearly just a backup keeper, to thinking Mannion deserves to keep the shirt whoever we bring in as he's done well enough to not be dropped straight away.
I wonder if that has changed the thinking about what sort of keeper to bring in.9 -
Wanting to and actually breaking a contract are not the same. I'm sure Fraser and his advisers are perfectly aware of the line they are treading.Covered_End_Lad said:People keep saying Fraser wants to break his contract, I’m sure he is happy to stay on it but given the opportunity would move to Scotland to play up there. This isn’t a situation where Scott is refusing to play.0 -
We do need a bit of individual magic, as while being a hard working, super fit team will win you a lot of games, there will be times when you need something less predictable.ShootersHillGuru said:From the snippets coming out of Sparrows, the lad sounds very exciting. Definitely something we currently don’t have. Electric pace and bags of tricks. I still wonder if Jones is the type of manager that sees much benefit in a player that is a bit of a wild card. I’m guessing even if the work permit gets sorted it’ll be a couple of months before NJ integrates him into options for team selection. I suspect he’ll want to drill him in the Jones way.
Rak-Sakyi provided that for us, but going back the likes of Ricky Holmes and Lookman have also provided it for us in the past.1 -
If there aren't any options for Fraser to go to Scotland I can see him signing for MK Dons or Burton on loan.
2 clubs he's played well for in the past, if he impresses there would likely be interest from Scotland in January.1 -
Burton is like the graveyard of failed Charlton players these days.12
-
For Charlton mateChunes said:Where's Dixon going to play?3 -
Harry Isted already dropped after one gameFishCostaFortune said:Burton is like the graveyard of failed Charlton players these days.1 - Sponsored links:
-
Not particularly excited for Dixon, don't see where he fits in, especially if that's how people viewed CBT. He seems to have decent technique, but is playing at a much lower level.
I think he's a player who is gonna need a lot of time to adjust to this league.
Hoping we can sign some names that have proved it in this league or above, which is what we were told we would be getting. We started that off well, I'd like to see that continue 👍🏻3 -
Really don't think there's anything to lose with the Dixon deal. How many times have people mentioned over the years when Peterborough have signed some young talent from Non League that's gone onto be absolute quality that they wished we thought outside the box with scouting or taken a gamble on someone. I'm very encouraged by Swisdoms reports from the training ground and I'm more than happy to give this deal a few months of U21s and BSM Trophy appearances , I'm not expecting him to be on the bench Saturday and making an instant impact because that's not what he's been signed to do.
I'd imagine NJ will have had talks whilst the main owners are over about exactly what he wants from the rest of the of the window and if the finances are available for a bit more money to just push things over the top quality wise.21 -
Do we know that we are definitely going to get a cut of Gomez fee ...0
-
Good question. Wasn’t it stated that we had cashed some of these on for a fixed amount in the past?Broadstairs_Red said:Do we know that we are definitely going to get a cut of Gomez fee ...0 -
Been confirmed by Cawley a couple of times that we haven't cashed it in9
-
When dixon is involved in the first team, I would go with a 3-4-2-1 (definitely when things need be changed up) with Campbell and Dixon behind a big striker to get the ball and run at tired centre backs0
-
Talking to one of the UK Directors last week it seems we will although they didn't mention, probably because they don't yet know, how much it would be.Broadstairs_Red said:Do we know that we are definitely going to get a cut of Gomez fee ...
My guesstimate is:
We've been told that we get 20% of any profit by Cawley.
We got £3.5m IIRC so the profit on a £50m deal would be £46.5m
Our 20% would be £9.3m
But wait
Gomez hasn't been sold yet
He may not go for as much as £50m (he may also go for more)
Crucially, we won't get £9.3m up front.
Large transfer fees are usually paid over the life time of a contract so Liverpool, and so us, get, AS AN EXAMPLE, 50% upfront and the remaining half spread over the remaining four years of Joe's contract. Again, an assumption that it is a five year deal.
In my example that would mean we get £4.65m now and £1.635m per year for each of the next four seasons.
So a very big boost to the coffers now to either fund transfer and wages or to fund the more important tarmacing of the west stand car park (£750k well spent you'll all agree) or to lower the owners annual losses plus a very handy guaranteed sum each year for four years.
Just an EXAMPLE, NOT FACT.
WIOTOS
34 -
I'd have him back at CharltonRonnieMoore said:
Derby fans want him sent back … the manager was planning to play himsouthamptonaddick said:
He might have signed for Derby but how often does he play?PopIcon said:
Not true.RonnieMoore said:
CBT and Dobson not missed they are were seen as very good players within the Charlton fan base , but not by the wider football world … what we brought in is quality and not deadwood like before .. players contacts are not a concern this early in the season..Athletico Charlton said:Got to be honest, I am somewhat underwhelmed so far. We have bought in 7 new players after finishing in our worst league position for 96 years last season and losing 3 of our best players in CBT, May and Dobson.
To put that into perspective Bolton who narrowly missed promotion have bought in 8 players so more than us.
Yes, I know we bought in 7 in January, but 3 (Ward, Bakinson, Fiorini) have gone and one (Gillesphy) just isn't that good.
NJ said this summer would be a huge rebuild as he wanted the squad in a position where we would only tinker in future windows; it doesn't feel like that when we have bought in less than most other teams in L1 have.
Meanwhile Small, Mitchell, Jones and Leaburn are in the final 12 months of their contracts and we are stuck with a number of players we don't want.
The squad for me looks ok and workmanlike but severely lacking in real quality.
I hope to be proved wrong.
CBT signed for Derby, the last time i looked they were a Championship team.
Phil Parkinson tried to sign Dobson last year.
as a wing back !!!!7 -
We can bank it on our books any way we wish though, Liverpool would probably put it in their accounts as the whole £50m rather than instalments but in reality this is still a bit of an oversimplification. There will be a set fee and then clauses based on appearances, club achievement etc. Although that would mean a smaller windfall now it could be sign as virtually guaranteed money for Jan 2026 if it was based on him hitting 50 appearances for example.Henry Irving said:
Talking to one of the UK Directors last week it seems we will although they didn't mention, probably because they don't yet know, how much it would be.Broadstairs_Red said:Do we know that we are definitely going to get a cut of Gomez fee ...
My guesstimate is:
We've been told that we get 20% of any profit by Cawley.
We got £3.5m IIRC so the profit on a £50m deal would be £46.5m
Our 20% would be £9.3m
But wait
Gomez hasn't been sold yet
He may not go for as much as £50m (he may also go for more)
Crucially, we won't get £9.3m up front.
Large transfer fees are usually paid over the life time of a contract so Liverpool, and so us, get, AS AN EXAMPLE, 50% upfront and the remaining half spread over the remaining four years of Joe's contract. Again, an assumption that it is a five year deal.
In my example that would mean we get £4.65m now and £1.635m per year for each of the next four seasons.
So a very big boost to the coffers now to either fund transfer and wages or to fund the more important tarmacing of the west stand car park (£750k well spent you'll all agree) or to lower the owners annual losses plus a very handy guaranteed sum each year for four years.
Just an EXAMPLE, NOT FACT.
WIOTOS
The important bit is we'll get a decent chunk of money that needs to be spent well!0 - Sponsored links:
-
What’s the point of that when his family are living in Scotland there 3/4 teams that want him but can’t get near what we pay himcovered_end_junior said:If there aren't any options for Fraser to go to Scotland I can see him signing for MK Dons or Burton on loan.
2 clubs he's played well for in the past, if he impresses there would likely be interest from Scotland in January.0 -
I'm not an accountant (thank Darwin) but I think the payments would be listed in the accounts and the club could also factor (sell) any future payments to use it now.fenaddick said:
We can bank it on our books any way we wish though, Liverpool would probably put it in their accounts as the whole £50m rather than instalments but in reality this is still a bit of an oversimplification. There will be a set fee and then clauses based on appearances, club achievement etc. Although that would mean a smaller windfall now it could be sign as virtually guaranteed money for Jan 2026 if it was based on him hitting 50 appearances for example.Henry Irving said:
Talking to one of the UK Directors last week it seems we will although they didn't mention, probably because they don't yet know, how much it would be.Broadstairs_Red said:Do we know that we are definitely going to get a cut of Gomez fee ...
My guesstimate is:
We've been told that we get 20% of any profit by Cawley.
We got £3.5m IIRC so the profit on a £50m deal would be £46.5m
Our 20% would be £9.3m
But wait
Gomez hasn't been sold yet
He may not go for as much as £50m (he may also go for more)
Crucially, we won't get £9.3m up front.
Large transfer fees are usually paid over the life time of a contract so Liverpool, and so us, get, AS AN EXAMPLE, 50% upfront and the remaining half spread over the remaining four years of Joe's contract. Again, an assumption that it is a five year deal.
In my example that would mean we get £4.65m now and £1.635m per year for each of the next four seasons.
So a very big boost to the coffers now to either fund transfer and wages or to fund the more important tarmacing of the west stand car park (£750k well spent you'll all agree) or to lower the owners annual losses plus a very handy guaranteed sum each year for four years.
Just an EXAMPLE, NOT FACT.
WIOTOS
The important bit is we'll get a decent chunk of money that needs to be spent well!1 -
Really after he pretended to be injured so he didn’t have to play to force his move back up north ..Ferryman said:
I'd have him back at CharltonRonnieMoore said:
Derby fans want him sent back … the manager was planning to play himsouthamptonaddick said:
He might have signed for Derby but how often does he play?PopIcon said:
Not true.RonnieMoore said:
CBT and Dobson not missed they are were seen as very good players within the Charlton fan base , but not by the wider football world … what we brought in is quality and not deadwood like before .. players contacts are not a concern this early in the season..Athletico Charlton said:Got to be honest, I am somewhat underwhelmed so far. We have bought in 7 new players after finishing in our worst league position for 96 years last season and losing 3 of our best players in CBT, May and Dobson.
To put that into perspective Bolton who narrowly missed promotion have bought in 8 players so more than us.
Yes, I know we bought in 7 in January, but 3 (Ward, Bakinson, Fiorini) have gone and one (Gillesphy) just isn't that good.
NJ said this summer would be a huge rebuild as he wanted the squad in a position where we would only tinker in future windows; it doesn't feel like that when we have bought in less than most other teams in L1 have.
Meanwhile Small, Mitchell, Jones and Leaburn are in the final 12 months of their contracts and we are stuck with a number of players we don't want.
The squad for me looks ok and workmanlike but severely lacking in real quality.
I hope to be proved wrong.
CBT signed for Derby, the last time i looked they were a Championship team.
Phil Parkinson tried to sign Dobson last year.
as a wing back !!!!1 -
Good, because he'll be perfect cannon fodder for the BSM Cup.Covered_End_Lad said:People keep saying Fraser wants to break his contract, I’m sure he is happy to stay on it but given the opportunity would move to Scotland to play up there. This isn’t a situation where Scott is refusing to play.0 -
Dixon will be on the bench vs Bolton.11
-
Are you Ronnie in disguise...🙄Gisappointed said:Dixon will be on the bench vs Bolton.6 -
He was already as good as gone by then and made it clear long before that he wasn't renewing here to move back up north.RonnieMoore said:
Really after he pretended to be injured so he didn’t have to play to force his move back up north ..Ferryman said:
I'd have him back at CharltonRonnieMoore said:
Derby fans want him sent back … the manager was planning to play himsouthamptonaddick said:
He might have signed for Derby but how often does he play?PopIcon said:
Not true.RonnieMoore said:
CBT and Dobson not missed they are were seen as very good players within the Charlton fan base , but not by the wider football world … what we brought in is quality and not deadwood like before .. players contacts are not a concern this early in the season..Athletico Charlton said:Got to be honest, I am somewhat underwhelmed so far. We have bought in 7 new players after finishing in our worst league position for 96 years last season and losing 3 of our best players in CBT, May and Dobson.
To put that into perspective Bolton who narrowly missed promotion have bought in 8 players so more than us.
Yes, I know we bought in 7 in January, but 3 (Ward, Bakinson, Fiorini) have gone and one (Gillesphy) just isn't that good.
NJ said this summer would be a huge rebuild as he wanted the squad in a position where we would only tinker in future windows; it doesn't feel like that when we have bought in less than most other teams in L1 have.
Meanwhile Small, Mitchell, Jones and Leaburn are in the final 12 months of their contracts and we are stuck with a number of players we don't want.
The squad for me looks ok and workmanlike but severely lacking in real quality.
I hope to be proved wrong.
CBT signed for Derby, the last time i looked they were a Championship team.
Phil Parkinson tried to sign Dobson last year.
as a wing back !!!!1 -
I'm not an accountant either but that's the one of the reason PL clubs are selling youngsters for extraordinary sums to meet PSR rules. It counts as pure profit because they didn't pay a fee to start with AND they can whack the whole amount on their books now. They then amortise any signings they make over the length of the contract (which is one of the reasons for Chelsea's 8 year contracts).Henry Irving said:
I'm not an accountant (thank Darwin) but I think the payments would be listed in the accounts and the club could also factor (sell) any future payments to use it now.fenaddick said:
We can bank it on our books any way we wish though, Liverpool would probably put it in their accounts as the whole £50m rather than instalments but in reality this is still a bit of an oversimplification. There will be a set fee and then clauses based on appearances, club achievement etc. Although that would mean a smaller windfall now it could be sign as virtually guaranteed money for Jan 2026 if it was based on him hitting 50 appearances for example.Henry Irving said:
Talking to one of the UK Directors last week it seems we will although they didn't mention, probably because they don't yet know, how much it would be.Broadstairs_Red said:Do we know that we are definitely going to get a cut of Gomez fee ...
My guesstimate is:
We've been told that we get 20% of any profit by Cawley.
We got £3.5m IIRC so the profit on a £50m deal would be £46.5m
Our 20% would be £9.3m
But wait
Gomez hasn't been sold yet
He may not go for as much as £50m (he may also go for more)
Crucially, we won't get £9.3m up front.
Large transfer fees are usually paid over the life time of a contract so Liverpool, and so us, get, AS AN EXAMPLE, 50% upfront and the remaining half spread over the remaining four years of Joe's contract. Again, an assumption that it is a five year deal.
In my example that would mean we get £4.65m now and £1.635m per year for each of the next four seasons.
So a very big boost to the coffers now to either fund transfer and wages or to fund the more important tarmacing of the west stand car park (£750k well spent you'll all agree) or to lower the owners annual losses plus a very handy guaranteed sum each year for four years.
Just an EXAMPLE, NOT FACT.
WIOTOS
The important bit is we'll get a decent chunk of money that needs to be spent well!0 -
I’d be surprised if he’s thrown in that early.Gisappointed said:Dixon will be on the bench vs Bolton.7 -
Evening fixtures presumably...eastterrace6168 said:
Dock Green...🤦♂️Chunes said:Where's Dixon going to play?7
This discussion has been closed.
