Mr Methven said he is shortly moving to South East London, he actually added he is looking forward to getting on his bike on a Sunday, going down to the Valley to watch the Women's matches. I reckon he will be on a wage, and this will be his 'job', and he is relocating because of it.
Mr Methven said he is shortly moving to South East London, he actually added he is looking forward to getting on his bike on a Sunday, going down to the Valley to watch the Women's matches. I reckon he will be on a wage, and this will be his 'job', and he is relocating because of it.
As a CEO you would need to be a lot closer to your work base especially when you are running the football club
Absolute slimeball and I can't believe some people can't see through the act.
He's been the CEO all along, and has just spun words and lied to not make it appear that way. 0 accountability for the poor season and has landed himself another gig, when he's been an absolute failure elsewhere.
No different to politicians these people who worm their way into football clubs, lies upon lies to get money and they smile as they do it.
I don't think this is good for us, and I've never been comfortable with his position at Charlton, but similar to the real world, there's sod all I can do about it, so I'll just have to wait and see the results. Hopefully my gut instinct is completely wrong.
Absolute slimeball and I can't believe some people can't see through the act.
He's been the CEO all along, and has just spun words and lied to not make it appear that way. 0 accountability for the poor season and has landed himself another gig, when he's been an absolute failure elsewhere.
No different to politicians these people who worm their way into football clubs, lies upon lies to get money and they smile as they do it.
I don't think this is good for us, and I've never been comfortable with his position at Charlton, but similar to the real world, there's sod all I can do about it, so I'll just have to wait and see the results. Hopefully my gut instinct is completely wrong.
I can't disagree with anything you've said but.........there are at least signs they're sorting it out.
Jones is a vast improvement on our recent managers, the signings on the face of it appear to be better as well since Jones came in. New pitch, club shop apparently coming back in-house, Leaburn sent away for specialist rehab, so there are signs we're getting back to being a properly run club again.
Absolute slimeball and I can't believe some people can't see through the act.
He's been the CEO all along, and has just spun words and lied to not make it appear that way. 0 accountability for the poor season and has landed himself another gig, when he's been an absolute failure elsewhere.
No different to politicians these people who worm their way into football clubs, lies upon lies to get money and they smile as they do it.
I don't think this is good for us, and I've never been comfortable with his position at Charlton, but similar to the real world, there's sod all I can do about it, so I'll just have to wait and see the results. Hopefully my gut instinct is completely wrong.
I can't disagree with anything you've said but.........there are at least signs they're sorting it out.
Jones is a vast improvement on our recent managers, the signings on the face of it appear to be better as well since Jones came in. New pitch, club shop apparently coming back in-house, Leaburn sent away for specialist rehab, so there are signs we're getting back to being a properly run club again.
Agree that there are positive actions but, so far, they are all inputs.
What we have yet to see are positive outcomes.
Jones needs to deliver more than draws, fitness and injury record of players needs to improve, the shop has to be better in terms of value, variety and profit.
We’ve got a long way to go, before we can be considered to be on an upward trajectory as a club.
I think our season ticket sales should be a lot higher than what they are at the moment, but given last season was the worse finish we’ve had in most of our lifetimes, I can understand that people are fed up and bored of finishing in mid table.
I know plenty of people that used to go to Charlton, that have long since given up going, now do other stuff / moved away, and just don’t want to give up their time watching dross.
Lots of good things / processes going on at the club at the moment, but all we are interested in as fans is what happens to the men’s team on the pitch.
It’s really hard as a fan, being patient, when you’re half way through a transfer window, and have made numerous poor signings in the past, and can’t see what sort of end product you are going to end up with at the end of the transfer window
I really hope we turn a corner this summer with some decent signing's, and get this club moving in an upward trajectory.
As for the board changes, I don’t really care as long we are improving, which none of us will know how good our transfer dealings have been, until about 10 games into the season.
Get off to a slow start (I can only see us getting 1 or 2 points in August) puts pressure on the manager, and we’re back where we started, like last season.
Failure , and the lack of know how to change it, has been accepted for too long at this club, and that needs to change.
Under the new Sky agreement we are unaware of how many home games will kick off at 3pm. In the past we accepted that a few games would be shunted around to satisfy the paymasters but this new deal could prove to be the final nail in the coffin.
"Representatives from the club have been working with Charlton Athletic Supporters’ Trust (CAST) and other stakeholders over a period of time with a view to setting up a broader fan engagement strategy. The discussions have included the possibility of an advisory board being setup ahead of the coming season, with strong fan representation, respecting Charlton’s heritage as the original community club. This process has included looking at best practice at other clubs and taking advice and guidance from the Football Supporters’ Association with further updates to be shared in due course."
Hmmm
This was brought up at previous FF and one of the driving forces was the Fans4Fans supporters group. CAST seemed a bit "meh".
Shouldn't this also include other groups and organisations too?
How come CAST haven't said anything? Shouldn't they consult members?
We were at our most succesful when we all steered in the same direction, the lack of comms from the club and its affliates tells me success my not be as close as we would like
"Representatives from the club have been working with Charlton Athletic Supporters’ Trust (CAST) and other stakeholders over a period of time with a view to setting up a broader fan engagement strategy. The discussions have included the possibility of an advisory board being setup ahead of the coming season, with strong fan representation, respecting Charlton’s heritage as the original community club. This process has included looking at best practice at other clubs and taking advice and guidance from the Football Supporters’ Association with further updates to be shared in due course."
Hmmm
This was brought up at previous FF and one of the driving forces was the Fans4Fans supporters group. CAST seemed a bit "meh".
Shouldn't this also include other groups and organisations too?
How come CAST haven't said anything? Shouldn't they consult members?
We were at our most succesful when we all steered in the same direction, the lack of comms from the club and its affliates tells me success my not be as close as we would like
When this was brought up at previous FF meetings the least enthusiastic group there was the trust, now they appear to be championing the idea without engaging with anyone, in particularly, their members beforehand.
That's my take
Not a dig at the trust, but despite multiple groups being in attendance, where is the communication
This playing around with management structures all strikes me as fiddling while Rome is burning - where are all the early quality signings we were promised (by Charlton rather than Huddersfield I presume)?
"Representatives from the club have been working with Charlton Athletic Supporters’ Trust (CAST) and other stakeholders over a period of time with a view to setting up a broader fan engagement strategy. The discussions have included the possibility of an advisory board being setup ahead of the coming season, with strong fan representation, respecting Charlton’s heritage as the original community club. This process has included looking at best practice at other clubs and taking advice and guidance from the Football Supporters’ Association with further updates to be shared in due course."
Hmmm
This was brought up at previous FF and one of the driving forces was the Fans4Fans supporters group. CAST seemed a bit "meh".
Shouldn't this also include other groups and organisations too?
How come CAST haven't said anything? Shouldn't they consult members?
We were at our most succesful when we all steered in the same direction, the lack of comms from the club and its affliates tells me success my not be as close as we would like
When this was brought up at previous FF meetings the least enthusiastic group there was the trust, now they appear to be championing the idea without engaging with anyone, in particularly, their members beforehand.
That's my take
Not a dig at the trust, but despite multiple groups being in attendance, where is the communication
Any idea about the communications systems any of the other multiple groups beyond the Supporters Trust use?
"Representatives from the club have been working with Charlton Athletic Supporters’ Trust (CAST) and other stakeholders over a period of time with a view to setting up a broader fan engagement strategy. The discussions have included the possibility of an advisory board being setup ahead of the coming season, with strong fan representation, respecting Charlton’s heritage as the original community club. This process has included looking at best practice at other clubs and taking advice and guidance from the Football Supporters’ Association with further updates to be shared in due course."
Hmmm
This was brought up at previous FF and one of the driving forces was the Fans4Fans supporters group. CAST seemed a bit "meh".
Shouldn't this also include other groups and organisations too?
How come CAST haven't said anything? Shouldn't they consult members?
We were at our most succesful when we all steered in the same direction, the lack of comms from the club and its affliates tells me success my not be as close as we would like
When this was brought up at previous FF meetings the least enthusiastic group there was the trust, now they appear to be championing the idea without engaging with anyone, in particularly, their members beforehand.
That's my take
Not a dig at the trust, but despite multiple groups being in attendance, where is the communication
Any idea about the communications systems any of the other multiple groups beyond the Supporters Trust use?
Nobody to my knowledge was consulted about this ,hence no comms.
You would have thought the club would have instigated this?
Let's be honest though, this was probably always the plan, it just had to be moved back a few months because Methven's involvement started drawing attention from more than just local media and supporters. I never believed the whole "small, minority investor" bullshit. He sure did give a lot of interviews and quotes for a minority investor. This feels like a pretty blatant bait and switch.
"Representatives from the club have been working with Charlton Athletic Supporters’ Trust (CAST) and other stakeholders over a period of time with a view to setting up a broader fan engagement strategy. The discussions have included the possibility of an advisory board being setup ahead of the coming season, with strong fan representation, respecting Charlton’s heritage as the original community club. This process has included looking at best practice at other clubs and taking advice and guidance from the Football Supporters’ Association with further updates to be shared in due course."
Hmmm
This was brought up at previous FF and one of the driving forces was the Fans4Fans supporters group. CAST seemed a bit "meh".
Shouldn't this also include other groups and organisations too?
How come CAST haven't said anything? Shouldn't they consult members?
We were at our most succesful when we all steered in the same direction, the lack of comms from the club and its affliates tells me success my not be as close as we would like
When this was brought up at previous FF meetings the least enthusiastic group there was the trust, now they appear to be championing the idea without engaging with anyone, in particularly, their members beforehand.
That's my take
Not a dig at the trust, but despite multiple groups being in attendance, where is the communication
Any idea about the communications systems any of the other multiple groups beyond the Supporters Trust use?
The new (shuffled) board all positioning themselves nicely for if Jones fails , it’s all on him and he’ll be thrown under the bus quicker than you can say Methven where’s your troosers
The new (shuffled) board all positioning themselves nicely for if Jones fails , it’s all on him and he’ll be thrown under the bus quicker than you can say Methven where’s your troosers
100% although I imagine Jones is 'in' on all this b*******. A nice 4.5 years contract into the bargain.
It really is quite funny that the club which pioneered progress through working closely with fans is so ignorant of its own history that it goes off to get advice from other places but not its own ex-directors, etc. I wonder what they are frightened of?
It’s not about structures or representation at all. It’s about commitment, trust, goodwill and sincerity - all concepts that Charlie and his mates are likely to find problematic.
It really is quite funny that the club which pioneered progress through working closely with fans is so ignorant of its own history that it goes off to get advice from other places but not its own ex-directors, etc. I wonder what they are frightened of?
It’s not about structures or representation at all. It’s about commitment, trust, goodwill and sincerity - all concepts that Charlie and his mates are likely to find problematic.
It really is quite funny that the club which pioneered progress through working closely with fans is so ignorant of its own history that it goes off to get advice from other places but not its own ex-directors, etc. I wonder what they are frightened of?
It’s not about structures or representation at all. It’s about commitment, trust, goodwill and sincerity - all concepts that Charlie and his mates are likely to find problematic.
Oh I can understand why you may may think that but in reality they are:
A) financially committed (even of money they can 'afford to lose' b) trust - they trust each other but not the fans c ) goodwill - was increased with the acuisition of Jones and will evaporate faster than a piss in the sahara if we dont kick iff this season well d) sincerity - mmm, think you may have them there.
"Representatives from the club have been working with Charlton Athletic Supporters’ Trust (CAST) and other stakeholders over a period of time with a view to setting up a broader fan engagement strategy. The discussions have included the possibility of an advisory board being setup ahead of the coming season, with strong fan representation, respecting Charlton’s heritage as the original community club. This process has included looking at best practice at other clubs and taking advice and guidance from the Football Supporters’ Association with further updates to be shared in due course."
Hmmm
This was brought up at previous FF and one of the driving forces was the Fans4Fans supporters group. CAST seemed a bit "meh".
Shouldn't this also include other groups and organisations too?
How come CAST haven't said anything? Shouldn't they consult members?
We were at our most succesful when we all steered in the same direction, the lack of comms from the club and its affliates tells me success my not be as close as we would like
When this was brought up at previous FF meetings the least enthusiastic group there was the trust, now they appear to be championing the idea without engaging with anyone, in particularly, their members beforehand.
That's my take
Not a dig at the trust, but despite multiple groups being in attendance, where is the communication
Personally I would run this past the new CEO and also copy in the fans advisers to see what (if anything) you get back from them.
Otherwise it looks like a closed shop at this stage
The board spoke about more branding and murals around the area but haven't mentioned this to the organisers of the successful local mural, the one opposite the station, about this at all.
The board spoke about more branding and murals around the area but haven't mentioned this to the organisers of the successful local mural, the one opposite the station, about this at all.
The board appear to be always in 'listening' mode, but not 'Doing' mode
It really is quite funny that the club which pioneered progress through working closely with fans is so ignorant of its own history that it goes off to get advice from other places but not its own ex-directors, etc. I wonder what they are frightened of?
It’s not about structures or representation at all. It’s about commitment, trust, goodwill and sincerity - all concepts that Charlie and his mates are likely to find problematic.
It really is quite funny that the club which pioneered progress through working closely with fans is so ignorant of its own history that it goes off to get advice from other places but not its own ex-directors, etc. I wonder what they are frightened of?
It’s not about structures or representation at all. It’s about commitment, trust, goodwill and sincerity - all concepts that Charlie and his mates are likely to find problematic.
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Charlie Methven approaches investors, forms GFP, takes an ownership stake in GFP and is spokesman for GFP
GFP (including Charlie Methven) then appoint Charlie Methven to a salaried position of CEO
Who would determine the size of salary / package of the CEO role? I’m assuming GFP? I’m assuming too it wasn’t an advertised recruitment ?
I reckon he will be on a wage, and this will be his 'job', and he is relocating because of it.
He's been the CEO all along, and has just spun words and lied to not make it appear that way. 0 accountability for the poor season and has landed himself another gig, when he's been an absolute failure elsewhere.
No different to politicians these people who worm their way into football clubs, lies upon lies to get money and they smile as they do it.
I don't think this is good for us, and I've never been comfortable with his position at Charlton, but similar to the real world, there's sod all I can do about it, so I'll just have to wait and see the results. Hopefully my gut instinct is completely wrong.
Jones is a vast improvement on our recent managers, the signings on the face of it appear to be better as well since Jones came in. New pitch, club shop apparently coming back in-house, Leaburn sent away for specialist rehab, so there are signs we're getting back to being a properly run club again.
What we have yet to see are positive outcomes.
Jones needs to deliver more than draws, fitness and injury record of players needs to improve, the shop has to be better in terms of value, variety and profit.
The proof IS NOT in the pudding.
The proof of the pudding is IN THE EATING
I think our season ticket sales should be a lot higher than what they are at the moment, but given last season was the worse finish we’ve had in most of our lifetimes, I can understand that people are fed up and bored of finishing in mid table.
I know plenty of people that used to go to Charlton, that have long since given up going, now do other stuff / moved away, and just don’t want to give up their time watching dross.
Lots of good things / processes going on at the club at the moment, but all we are interested in as fans is what happens to the men’s team on the pitch.
It’s really hard as a fan, being patient, when you’re half way through a transfer window, and have made numerous poor signings in the past, and can’t see what sort of end product you are going to end up with at the end of the transfer window
I really hope we turn a corner this summer with some decent signing's, and get this club moving in an upward trajectory.
As for the board changes, I don’t really care as long we are improving, which none of us will know how good our transfer dealings have been, until about 10 games into the season.
Get off to a slow start (I can only see us getting 1 or 2 points in August) puts pressure on the manager, and we’re back where we started, like last season.
Failure , and the lack of know how to change it, has been accepted for too long at this club, and that needs to change.
That's my take
Not a dig at the trust, but despite multiple groups being in attendance, where is the communication
You would have thought the club would have instigated this?
The group I represent talk regularly
A nice 4.5 years contract into the bargain.
It’s not about structures or representation at all. It’s about commitment, trust, goodwill and sincerity - all concepts that Charlie and his mates are likely to find problematic.
A) financially committed (even of money they can 'afford to lose'
b) trust - they trust each other but not the fans
c ) goodwill - was increased with the acuisition of Jones and will evaporate faster than a piss in the sahara if we dont kick iff this season well
d) sincerity - mmm, think you may have them there.
Otherwise it looks like a closed shop at this stage
The board spoke about more branding and murals around the area but haven't mentioned this to the organisers of the successful local mural, the one opposite the station, about this at all.
Does it matter where he lives?