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Netherlands v England
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SouthGoat3
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The difference between us and other countries is that the current Kane isn't obviously better than Watkins or Toney.
In our system, with 2 quality no 10s, we need a striker to stay high and occupy the opposition centre backs, not one who wants to be a no 10 as well. Indeed if we didn't have Bellingham and Foden, you might play Kane as a 10 behind Watkins.4 -
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Really enjoyed the bit on ITV where the players came out to see their families in the stand.12
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Magnanimous from Koeman there.0
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It's coming home.12 -
Fair play Koeman... Felt that 1st half we deserved it, 2nd not so much... Hasn't once banged on about the penalty8
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Give him a knighthood. A master of tournament football.
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Never in doubt.
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Cmon... lets be honest, who the f**k is watching the Final on ITV?15
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Stick knighthoods in room 101.2
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Keir Starmer looks like he's enjoying himself.Clem_Snide said:
It's coming home.11 -
๐ ๐ great shout!thai malaysia addick said:Can we please sort this out in 90 minutes please.0 -
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When Watkins turned and shot I was ready to slag him off for being selfish and shooting from a silly angle instead of trying to lay it off to a runner. No rights at all to be scoring from there. What a moment for the lad, though. Could conceivably be his only contribution from the tournament (save a brief cameo in the groups) but boy will he have earnt his medal, whatever colour it is.1
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Not sure what I watching but I thought there was about 10 minutes left when Watkins scored !ย
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This is how I feel too, the lack of exciting anticipation is also refreshing seeing as everyone has seen us absolutely stink an already bang average tournament out putting out 2 game and decent sides in the process. France have arguably been worse than us given their tournament pedigree but the lack of optimistic expectation has settled me as a hardened charlton fan and I have a weird feeling of calm where if we play how I suspect we can against a team I suspect will not sit back and might actually try and playยValleyGary said:Quite enjoying reading how we've spunked our way to a semi final and the rest of europe is sick of watching us. Brings me joy and long may it continue.
****I wrote the above at 3.47 and somehow didn't hit post comment. I am elated at the ghosts this England team is exorcising, mainly the big fat Ronald Koeman fouling David Platt in 93 one this time via way of a very generous penaltyย8 -
FFS.lordromford said:Up until this game, England, and Southgate in particular, have absolutely infuriated me.
Credit where itโs due tonight: despite putting out the same team as in previous dreadful games, we actually looked pretty decent in the first half.
Shaw for Trippier was the correct call at half time too, but Southgate showed his Achilles heel which is an absolute inability (or maybe refusal?) to adapt when your opponents change their set up. The Dutch strangled the life out of us and we again looked toothless, ponderous and vulnerable.Then came the last ten minutes. As has been said by many, it felt like the subs were too late. It turned out that they werenโt and Palmer played in Watkins and that was that.
I said after Switzerland that even if we went all the way Iโd still dislike Southgate. Iโm still of the opinion that our success is down to the players rather than Southgate, and that heโs been fortunate that his excessively late subs have repeatedly paid dividends almost immediately (you canโt tell me thatโs strategic genius!) but the first half tonight has at least softened my view of him.
At the end of the day, Iโm delighted weโve made it to the final.
COME ON ENGLAND!! ๐
Why not say the same about any successful manager?ย
Deschamps ?
Guardiola?
They're just lucky to have great players.6 -
That 1st half is what dying and going to Heaven and watching England will be.ย Convinced of it.
IF Kane starts in the final, we lose.ย2 -
Watkins given man of the match. Great finish but motm?!2
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World class players having world class game defining moments. Bellingham, Saka, Watkins.ย
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Well I thought overall we played a lot better. Especially first half. Dutch were next to useless but still they were in it.ย
Think the Spain game might actually surprise a few. England will win this tournament. Knighthoods all round I guess.ย2 -
Ahemkillerandflash said:The difference between us and other countries is that the current Kane isn't obviously better than Watkins or Toney.
In our system, with 2 quality no 10s, we need a striker to stay high and occupy the opposition centre backs, not one who wants to be a no 10 as well. Indeed if we didn't have Bellingham and Foden, you might play Kane as a 10 behind Watkins.
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I'm watching MOTD so I can actually enjoy us getting into the final ๐ซฃ๐ฉ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐๐๐๐๐ป๐ป๐ป๐ป๐ป1
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I want to watch it again and see Big Migs' smile, but he probably won't be on the show.KBslittlesis said:I'm watching MOTD so I can actually enjoy us getting into the final ๐ซฃ๐ฉ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐๐๐๐๐ป๐ป๐ป๐ป๐ป1 -
Haha... You're not the only oneKBslittlesis said:I'm watching MOTD so I can actually enjoy us getting into the final ๐ซฃ๐ฉ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐๐๐๐๐ป๐ป๐ป๐ป๐ป1 -
ForeverAddickted said:Cmon... lets be honest, who the f**k is watching the Final on ITV?
I certainly won't be - nor the BBCย
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Haha! Pissed up girl dropping the f-bomb on bbc news before telling us all to back off Southgate.
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